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  1. It was good to hear it clearly stated in an interview with John Campbell that benefit levels have been set at, and kept at, a subsistence level which induces ill health and social problems.

  2. The actions by winz, leads to people setting up things like limited liability companies, or trusts or get the executor of a will to hold onto a payout, because WINZ don’t have 1 set of rules to follow, it is taken on by the staff interpretation, not even a lawyers, and not uniform between staff members within a office.

    Winz allow perpetrators of Domestic Violence a Avenue to breach their protection orders which is a crime and conceal it. A WINZ investigator are so focus to get a result they side with the perpetrator over the victim, being a aid to re-victimizing then at Tax payers expense. And the abuser gets off scott-free with no punishment.

    These action encourages to keep vindictive people while not helping those who care to stay in the job, it encourages people that have that mindset to use their little hitler power to abuse innocent, vulnerable people to the mercy of these power tripper. It help creating mental health issues, and destroys trust between MSD and the beneficiary. It makes the person go, if I enquirer, to be honest will it be a statement, like what happens if my mum, puts $50 into my bank account, to, we taking $50 off you because its income, thanks for the declaration.

  3. The benefit system is cruel and punishing because it is a bizarre, complex piecemeal and patchwork system of add-ons, changes, and tinkering over many decades (primarily the last 30-odd years). We still have many nasty fish hooks in the system that have not changed since the 1980s or 1990s, and these generally all involve limits set in 1980s or 1990s dollars so over time inflation has excluded more and more people. What makes it worse is that Work and Income, despite the people who work there seeming to want to do the right thing and wanting to help, is in a word, a shambles. We can see this in the most recent in a long line of legal bungles. Most of my work time involves fixing their mistakes or helping people navigate the jungle of our benefit system. Fundamental change is desperately needed, and has been for decades.

  4. I was discussing the difficulty of dealing with W&I last month on a different site’s OM. Where I transcribed a printout; “No court ordered split care arrangement”, that had mysteriously somehow got shuffled into my papers (there are no privacy markings on the paper, so no legal reason not to that I know of – I just hope that the MSD are too busy at the moment to hunt me down and retaliate anyway):

    https://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-16-04-2020/#comment-1703057

    To which, a commentor who had previously been a WINZ advocate replied:

    “Noticed the abbreviation “map” in your comment. It’s been a while, but I seem to remember that WINZ works from their own interpretation of the law, which is contained in (I think) map documentation…”

    It just so happens that I have found a couple of other; “Map. The Guide to Social Policy”, documents in older papers (from the same year – 2019) that I was sorting through. Strange how so many not-exactly-confidential-but-not-generally-seen-by-clients documents seem to have made it into my own paperwork; accidentally like. These are; “Shared care”, “ Split care”, & “Court ordered split care arrangements”, which I won’t transcribe in full (unless people really find the above linked one fascinating enough that I bother doing so). However here are some excerpts:

    “Shared care only applies when the parents of a child are living apart, the child lives (for at least 40% of the time) with each parent and both parents apply for a benefit in respect of that child. In shared care situations you can only pay a sole parent rate of benefit to the parent that has the greater responsibility… Emergency Benefit cannot be paid to the ‘other’ parent on the basis that they care for the child for part of the time…”

    “You can only pay Sole Parent Support to one parent, unless, there is a court order awarding split care… in some cases parents have made their own arrangements without court involvement. However, to recognise a split care arrangement for benefit purposes, we must see a court order recognising the arrangements. An agreement between the parents is not sufficient, even if this has been formally drafted by a solicitor…”

    The gist is that the MSD would prefer to split up families to save time and money on their end. The amount of time and money that is required for a divorcing couple (also negotiating division of marriage property) to lawyer up and go through the Family Court process is simply unavailable to many beneficiary parents. So we get perverse outcomes of; (often, but not always) fathers walking away from their families because they can’t afford to be around the children; domestic abuse in beneficiary families that can’t afford to separate despite the toxicity of a failed relationship, and; children split between parents and rarely seeing siblings. Despite research showing that shared care at stable homes with separate parents would be a much more socially desirable (and long-term more economic) option.

  5. The government is in charge of WINZ, NO excuses. Also NO benefit increases today, FAIL.

    1. No benefit increases and the damn bloody relationship bloody rules still stand denying people welfare and healthcare funding.

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