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  1. Thank you Christine
    You’ve spoken for a huge number of us who watch on in despair and helplessness and impotent disbelief.
    Its like living in the Lars Von Trier film ” Melancholia” or some ridiculous satire.
    For me, observing whats happened to Julian Assange is also part of it
    Reveal the tawdry truth of how the “world” works and you’ll be systematically crucified, with your previous colleagues and allies buying in to and joining the carnage.

  2. The famous ‘new deal’ in the US that occurred in the 30s came about because vast masses of the population joined the Labour movement and were then able to threaten to bring down the capatalist system. WW1 came to an end because Labour movements made it happen. Social Security started in NZ because the political arm of the Labour movement implemented it.

    We don’t have to form an exact replica (and the word Labour has been sullied) but we do have to form a movement made up of ordinary people if we want this to change.

    When normal people come together we are so powerful that nothing can stop us. The ‘new deal’ came about because the Labour movement made the super rich give lots of their own money for government programs that lifted people out of poverty. The rich did it under threat of a wholesale revolution and they will do it again if we decide to make them.

    In the UK recently

    1. ‘Normal people’ are too fixated to their Facebook and other social media accounts and friends networks, sending frivolous little messages and pics to each other, hence distracting themselves almost 24/7 from reality. The internet and what has come with it in the form of the IT revolution has turned out to be a beast that poses greater threats than benefits to us.

      Few use it to inform themselves and to take real action, I sadly see no change on the horizon to the mass brainwashing and conditioning, and endless dumbing down, and distraction.

      1. Marc you are one negative guy. The history of the western world since the middle ages is one of constant improvements for the normal people. Yes there is a lot of up and down in this but we’re a long way from the days when Kings claimed the rights of gods.

        If you don’t believe change is inevitable can you at least shut up and let the people who want to change things get on with the job – if you’re successful in bring people around to your point of view then we really are doomed

        1. Only seeing things as they are, the Amazon has not recovered, more deforestation happens, same on Borneo, PNG and other places. No time for optimism.

    2. The ‘new deal’ came about because the Labour movement made the super rich give lots of their own money for government programs that lifted people out of poverty.

      This is holding to the delusion that we need the rich to pay for things. We don’t.

      The nation already owns all the resources in the country. This means that the country can simply pay the citizens to extract and utilise those resources in any way it deems necessary.

      No rich people or private ownership needed and that really is what the lies of the private sector are all about. Why they go on that money cannot simply be created despite the fact that the private simply create money. Their lies are there to hide the fact that we don’t need rich people.

      If the government simply created the money and spent it into the economy in productive ways the economy would run better and we wouldn’t have rich people.

      1. You’re quite right that we don’t need the rich to pay for things but the point of my comment is that the normal people can take caharge if we work together. The exact solution is incidental at this point because if we don’t come together first then nothing will happen.

        You’ve got to admit though, the idea of forcing the rich to hand over billions of dollars has a certain appeal 🙂

        1. You’ve got to admit though, the idea of forcing the rich to hand over billions of dollars has a certain appeal

          To some degree but I happen to like the idea of leaving them with billions of dollars that they can’t use to make even more unearned income. Make it so that any money they have just sits in the bank. They either spend it or see it go down at the rate of inflation.

          1. Relying on rich puts them into control even more.

            Predators seldom conserve their prey.

            Progressive taxation is the best way we have at present to fund what is needed for change.

          2. Actually, the best way to fund the change is to simply have the government create the money and spend it into the economy. This utilizes the nations resources for the benefit of the nation and removes the power of the rich.

            The government doesn’t actually need funding.

  3. In terms of moving forward, if Labour and Greens were 50% of the vote then more would be possible in local governance.

    It requires a plan of action and a role for communiy and or such a government in achieving it.

    Worldwide, it requires a plan of action ….

  4. “Those of us who campaigned for a change from the National Government and had our hopes pinned on a ‘progressive Labour-Greens government’ find ourselves drinking old wine in new bottles feeling less hope than a year before.”

    Yes, but I am not drinking old wine, I am drinking more beer than before, as it is all so damned depressing what I see being done under the present government (in part at least), and how hypocritical so many ordinary people are. Most think that all that needs to be done is to get rid of one way plastic bags, and then they feel ‘green’ and ‘responsible’ for the environment.

    Yet re-usable plastic bags are still made of plastic, will pose the same problems as one way bags may have caused at some time down the line, and are not really much of a sincere change of customer and consumer behaviour.

    People still drive their fossil fuel cars and some their nice SUVs imported from car making countries, to head to the malls, to the DIY serving markets and so forth, as if there is no need to change.

    They lament the lack or unreliability of public transport alternatives, but to be honest, they do simply prefer their own vehicle and space, as they do not want to sit next to a possibly unwashed common person on a bus or train.

    While some of NZ First’s policies make sense, they are lacking when it comes to saving the environment. And as Labour and Greens need to work with NZ First, this has put firm brakes on some things that need to be done urgently.

    So it is necessary to vote wisely in the next elections in 2020, and give Greens more votes, and Labour also, so they can govern without the need of another party or perhaps independent MPs.

    But even Labour are true hypocrites, as they carry on like business as usual on many fronts, as they are scared of the business sectors and lobby groups, who could get them out of office should they decide to run a campaign against the government.

    We are stuck there where many other countries and peoples are stuck, in dependence on fossil fuels, in complex trading, banking and other networks, and opting out of these is near impossible. Real change must happen globally, but see how hard it is to even get some united decisions within the UN, especially the UN Security Council.

    Things truly look very grim, I suppose, I need another beer, and yet another one after that, to switch off the worries and depressing reality.

    1. It’s old wine and not even really in new bottles… we have seen this corked wine before, circa 1984

  5. Kindness is not dealt out by pulling our farmers’ wool over our eyes.
    When will any government, red or blue, dish out the truth?
    Which bit of the changing climate does our “kind PM” want to concentrate on?
    This bit…apparently not. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c40qQxYZoLM
    You think NZ is not affected, best think again.

  6. Feelings of grief are appropriate, but feelings of disappointment with the government (or politicians in general) are not. Governments act with total disregard for the long term -always have, always will…..perpetual growth on a finite planet and all that. Their job: keep up the pretence.

    Industrial civilisation is predicated on continuous use of fossil fuels, and no one wants to give up the benefits of IC.

    There’s no escape from the progress trap.

  7. Say it like it is, a human oxymoron is a liar.
    This government lied to us about what they would put right, the rest of the article is fluffy words.

  8. Remember when Jacinda said she was a pragmatic idealist?

    Whenever a politician says that they’re being pragmatic they should have a dictionary thrown at them. The Collins may be a large enough clue bat.

    Pragmatism is all about doing what’s physically possible but when politicians use it they mean what’s politically possible and that keeps them working in an idealogical economy that’s actually unsustainable. In other words, they keep trying to do what’s physically impossible.

    Even the pragmatic philosophy was about doing things based upon their practical application and consequences. When things weren’t working the idea was to change them quickly in practical ways that got them working.

    So, no, the present government is not being pragmatic. They’re being anything but. The present system is not working in either a physical or political meaning and they’re not changing it so that it does.

  9. It’s a pity the Internet party was choked off by all parties.

    Also a pity that Hone Harawira is not in parliament. At least is would not be going through the motions and then justifying patently bad decisions, and has some critical thinking and courage left.

    Saying that, as much as I am disappointed in the new government I am more relived that the old one is out.

    Sad we now have to vote for the least worse party, not the best one.

    Must be part of the dimmer future.

  10. Thank you, Christine for speaking to truth. Ecological grief, yes, acceptance of powerlessness, no.

    One of my offspring asked me today why they were the only person who could see the future. I said many do; they know that climate change is here and they know what is happening to our world, it’s the politicians and the MSM who are hiding from reality, or who are trying to hide the reality,or who are living in their own little cocoons in time present.

    Totally sickened today at the poison oozing from “Stuff”, about the Pike River decision.What low lifes the publishers and the editors are choreographing the ignorance of the sewers.

    Worst were criticisms of dead miners for going to work in a place some thought not safe.

    That the dead were among the many workers who daily do things about which they have little choice if they want to keep their jobs, escapes the ignorant. And thinking that any government cares about their future, or any future, may be realm of the truly deluded.

    Getting rid of National was a first step towards a better future, but dancing on tip toes won’t work.

  11. Look, I can’t agree with you publishing this bleeding heart indulgence as an article. Please don’t, as it does none of readers like me any good, and it is offering nothing to any debate that is meaningful. Go cuddle your rabbit and be rightfully thankful that at this point in time you are in the position to own one as a pet. Thank you.

    1. The point is, Lone Comet, that I know there is a high probability that I will die knowing that my children and my grandchildren’s style of living will be mighty different from mine, and infinitely worse.

      It doesn’t do me any good knowing this, in fact I would sooner not know it.

      But willfully suppressing knowledge is the domain of politicians and power mongers, not of the people.

      With knowledge, and dialogue, come the hope and the possibilities of effecting change. This is one reason why Christine’s writing is important, however much it makes our hearts bleed.

      It also provides a record for the future that we knew what was going on, and that it concerned us, and that we tried to do something about it- that we weren’t just sitting around cuddling rabbits and watching crappy television.

    2. LP. Have courage to face change of direction.

      The present path is downhill and getting steeper but turning around is a slim option we must take and do whatever needed to force the perpetrators of business as usual..

      Are you suggesting we give up and be thankful.

  12. It’s remarkable that people see their hopes withering after ONE year of the new government. Poor diddums. You could be excused if you’d seen the decline of the environment and the ignoring of the ‘writing on the wall’ that have been the case for the last 40 years – ever since the ‘Club of Rome’ published ‘Design for a limited planet’. That most of those that took this message on board and who has tried to spread it to all and sundry can still look forward with some degree of optimism (though diminishing) and go on fighting for a better world, is a tick for the human spirit. Long may it last – and may many others join in the fight – without dragging themselves and others down with hopelessness.

  13. I’m a staunch Green and don’t feel like they have let me down (and I too suffer from a very serious case solastalgia that sees me wake up depressed at the thought of what is coming). Their lack of their power to do any more than the are comes from barely getting over the five percent thresh hold at the last election. New Zealanders still believe they can have it both ways and that is the problem. The Green’s message is that you can’t and as we see with petrol prices, that is unacceptable to the majority of New Zealanders who suffer from a sense of entitlement.

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