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  1. I think Chippy can deliver another majority on the night. Find the people something meaningful to do brother. New Zealand’s creative capacity has to be unleashed.

  2. One error in this piece is to praise Labour for increase in benefits and superannuation payments. They are both linked to the average wage or inflation so would go up who ever was in power . Poor management of the economy and weather have caused record inflation and even with the rise many are struggling even with the rise.

    1. Fossil fuels is dead. Or should I say cheap fossil fuels is dead. Inflation was always going to go up when everyone rejected electrifying the motor pool. After writing essays upon essays in the comments about what needs done it warms my cold little heart knowing that everyone realises how fucked they truly are. Have a nice winter 🙂

    2. Usually that would be the case but because inflation is higher than the average wage growth they actually linked it to inflation rather than average wage growth this year.

      Problem is without raising thresholds, msd will just deduct any increase to main benefits from disability allowance, tsa, or accomodation supplement, so most beneficiaries won’t see much of an increase.

  3. The big bold move, the startling earth shattering, enlightened one National has come up with?

    Education and teaching. There aren’t enough teachers. Boosted by Covid events over a couple of years truancy is a problem. Aberrant behaviour in schools is burgeoning. The number of children with severe problems, learning and behaviour, pose severe challenges on teachers and schools. Teachers want more money and resources.

    The Grand Plan?
    National is going to have a prescriptive curriculum so every teacher will have the recipe of what to do when. Blustering and Bullshitting Brilliantly.

  4. “We will end up with a result both sides will refuse to accept if they lose”.

    That’s a possibility but I guess we have MMP. There’s no hiding.

    Martyn, some good thinking. So much to consider. I have no crystal ball but Oct 2023 is not going to be replay of 2020, or for that matter 2017. I don’t mean Labour won’t have a chance of 3rd term – they may well, in coalition. 2020 saw a landslide majority and we all know why. There was only one issue to vote on. Those swing voters will be looking elsewhere this time. Chloe Swarbrick won Auckland Central by the skin of her teeth but that needs to be repeated. She was only the 2nd to do so and the first since 2002. Two electorate votes in 2023? A bold call. Simply getting above the 5% threshold won’t do much for the Greens. Rawhiri Waititi surprised Tamati Coffey in Wairaki but the Maori voice we’ve heard of late is arguably the Maori caucus within Labour. Even more support this time? Another bold call considering the current discourse around co-governance and the status given to He Puapua. ACT is a one-man show in Epsom but a good many swing voters may go this way. NZ First didn’t get a look in but there’s a faint possibility they’ll get over 5% this time. Or some wild, unpredictable, happening.

    Can’t fully recall the details of 2017 but what I do remember is that it was a personality contest, and Jacinda won. Good move by Labour in the 11th hour! Luxton vs Hipkins? Nah, a passing comment at most. Oh yes, Winston was the kingmaker! But that won’t be playing out in the same way. Maori Party you say MB. Now wouldn’t that be interesting.

    Yes, voters in 2023 will have greater opportunity to vote on issues, real or otherwise. No pandemic and no personality contest but still very much tribal bound by ‘class’, wealth and personal interest. Two ticks or a bob each way? And much more media noise, both social media and msm.

  5. Come on Martyn, most of us aren’t allowed to push back on some of the Left’s hypocrisy, otherwise the country will descend into a race war? How about the Left start fronting up and owning their large contribution to the current mess.

  6. I think it will be fairly difficult for Chippie to win after the last 2 weeks. The whole country knows that the Labour Party are currently as dodgy as a 2 bob watch. Nashie, OIA’s, Police institutional capture, All those pictures of Chippie, Ardern and the Greens with Shaneel and Eli.

    They have destroyed the female vote but Chippie chose the rainbow vote over the swinging women votes so he will reap what he sews.

    However, a lot can happen in 2 weeks in politics and Luxon is still the original Lame Duck. The sinker on the fishing line which I think is stopping them getting 10% of the vote and could go more as we get down to it.

    I had a thought though which could shake things up a bit. Shane Jones was on the Platform the other day and said some cryptic shit about his future.

    Then I wondered what if NZF and Act did some kind of power sharing agreement ahead of the election. Dont know if its even vaguely possible but I think they could end up being the dominant party to the Nats (or close to it) if that went ahead. Get David to be just a tad more moderate, NZF braking hard and its sellable to an electorate looking for something different. Esp to National voters.

  7. Racist woke wankers to the left of me and self-centred rat fuckers to the right of me . .

  8. Nice analysis Bomber,

    My prediction is that voter turn out will be historically low, as NZ politics degrades further everyday into fringe American style toxic cultural wars many New Zealanders will tune out in disgust at the worst excesses of left and right.

    When we are in an economic, housing, healthcare, cost of living and climate crisis and everyone is hurting but media, politicians and activists are screaming everyday about fringe issues that won’t help anyone justifying violence and silencing opponents instead of talking about how to fix NZ, what’s the point in voting.

    The Greens are toast imo. Atleast 30% of their vote is white cis men and after Maramas speech, they’ll have huge problems retaining that vote, as well as the huge swaths of old school Feminists who vote Green, who’ll probably choose to sit this election out,

    Chloe was already going to struggle to get reelected due to all the problems with downtown Auckland and the large numbers of asian and indian voters (who almost unanimously, despise identity politics) in that electorate plus labour fielding a candidate, I think nationals going to take this electorate and even if Chloe becomes leader she double downed and supported everything marama said so… I predict a 4% turn out for the greens and a term out of parliament unless they win Welly central.

    Labour was going really well under Hipkins, it seemed he was more practical and street level day to day than Arderns lofty vision based politics, And he won points for throwing out the woke image of labour, that all went out the window when he refused to fire a minister for racism and misinformation at a mob justice protest. Had he fired her he’d have really impressed a lot of middle NZ, not firing her has pissed off working and middle NZ, the Nash thing is beltway and is terrible but what working class Maori, pakeha, indians and Asians are talking about is Marama. His caucus cheering in the mob is a terrible look.

    I think national and labour will poll about equal.

    I think NZ first is going to get a lot of silent voters from labour and has as good a chance at getting back into parliament as the greens.

    I think the Maori party is going to get about 3% but cause an over hang of two seats.

    I think top is a no show without a seat deal from national in ilam (which is the bluest of the blue apart from 2020) or peter dunnes old seat.

    I think act is going to get between 14-18 seats. A lot of people voting ACT think it’s an anti immigration party and a populist party when it’s just undiluted Rodger/ruthnomics and if NZF is able to really hammer act on its unlimited immigration policies, NZf could get some of that populist vote.

    I think last Saturday killed the left. I think a national/act or national/act/NZf govt is likely.

    I think a national/act govt with greens outside of parliament for a term reinventing themselves might be the best thing that ever happened to the left because the unadulterated vicious class war that a national/act govt will wage on NZ will be deeply unpopular and see poor, working class and middle NZ unite in rage we haven’t seen in this country for nearly a century and the labour party, will have to talk about class and left wing populist economic policies rather than identity and visions.

    A Nat/act govt will hurt people but it may actually be what destroys neoliberalism and gets the lefts head out of the fucking sand

  9. Winston Peters NZF is going to be 10% + on the night. Just watch. He’s the only skilled politician and Kiwis are sick of this cultural Marxist rubbish.

    1. Maybe not 10% but over the 5% – lots of the blue rinse brigade don’t care what he’s saying as long he’s anti left and on the telly.

  10. We should be voting first and foremost for the climate change – the best policy is Te Pati Maori and I have joined and will support them as much as possible.

    The other big issues for me are child poverty ABSOLUTE FAILURE BY LABOUR, and health which is appalling.

  11. Martyn I enjoy reading your comments but wonder what your thoughts are based on . They sound good but as with many ideas fall down when you look at putting them into action
    Free public transport great idea but only the larger city have public transport and there is an enormous difficulty in finding drivers. 1000 bus trip cancelled in Auckland on Friday alone .In Chch my friends child has been late for school many times and one night 3 buses did not come on the way home plus many people are too afraid to go to the bus exchange for fear of being robed or beaten up.
    Free dentists.Where are the numbers needed to allow this to happen because even with the high cost it takes me weeks to get an appointment even for a check up ($120 for 15 mins)
    Tax the rich sounds good but surgeons who are desperately needed could fall into this bracket along with the better managers that give NZ a leading edge in some areas

  12. I think that unless the government completely b*ggers up the cyclone rebuild/recovery the Labour Party will go back.

    1. Henry – maybe you havent noticed the various public meetings being held and the fact that the Govt has turned its back on most dirt poor people in rural Hawkes Bay/Gizzy. There are still villages out there today with no roads, no water, no toilets, no electricity and no comms.

      And then you had Stuart Nash saying we cant bring in the Army because that makes it look like the Govt is failing.

      I guess the people in the villages think the Govt is failing.

  13. Hmm, kind of think you got it right there. Only one thing you got wrong. David Seymour won’t rewrite the treaty, he’ll just burn them, and replace them with nothing.

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