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  1. “Covid will be spread by the traveling rich but paid for by the overcrowded poor.”?
    Don’t think so. COVID will soon be mostly spread by the fully vaxxed:
    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/09/27/harvard-business-school-temporarily-moves-some-mba-classes-online-to-curb-covid-outbreak.html
    No, you are not hallucinating – Harvard Business School is now literally protecting the fully vaccinated from the fully vaccinated! This is what shifting goalposts looks like. “Get vaxxed so we can get back to normal”…. 95% fully vaxxed; but still wearing masks, still getting tested (regardless of vax status), still getting shutdowns. There is no “getting back to normal”.

    1. “COVID will soon be mostly spread by the fully vaxxed:”

      Oh noes!!!… or maybe

      that’s to be expected. Breakthrough cases exist and vaccination numbers are increasing.
      The higher the percentage of vaccinated people the higher the proportion of cases will be breakthrough. Ultimately, if we reach 100% vaccination we’ll see 100% of cases spread by vaccinated. On top of that we are still learning the vaccine efficacy for long term immunity and the probable need for booster shots.

      You really ought to consider the really important figures, such as hospitalisation and death rates of vaxxed vs unvaxxed. As a scare tactic your comment was a generally a fail, it might just work alarming young children and the scientifically bewildered.

  2. Yawn!
    Just as I said would happen – the virus has gotten away from us. Now it’s a running battle between vaccination and infection.

    And guess where the failure to lockdown occurred – yes that’s right among people who treat the law as optional, because they’re so smart LOL.

  3. 45. No ones listening to the explanations anymore. It’s here, here to stay.

    And no one, especially our government can underestimate the tensions in Auckland at this time because of the never ending restrictions.

    They tried, the vast majority of Auckland but not all, tried. But in part because our leaders didn’t plan ahead, we all, that is New Zealand, now have to suck it up.

    Get vaccinated! Its all we got.

  4. One million dollars for an aging dog kennel of a house,(that probably needs a power of work), in some crappy street, is criminal and could have been prevented from going stratospheric 10 -15 years.
    Instead the unchecked greed of the banks lasciviously licking their lips at the thought of tying people up with massive mortgages for 30 years of more was too hard to resist. Easy money….. and the real estate agent pariahs with their ridiculous unregulated fees and advertising charges are there to get fat off the bones …more easy money.
    Apart from covid, the housing market , currently overvalued by 60% or more, is the single biggest and most crippling factor in N.Z and will have catastrophic consequences right across all stratas and aspects of society for decades to come. In fact unless some big bold decisions are made and acted upon very soon we are heading into a very dark place.
    Trying to artificially stop the market from falling is a fools game. It’s a casino type market now. Markets go up and markets go down . Softly softly catchy monkey is simply not going to work.
    You just have to do the math…

  5. I don’t understand why we don’t just get everybody over 60 who wants to be vaccinated and then open up.
    Covid isn’t killing younger people andvaccination is readily available for everyone in NZ
    The flu is 20x more deadly than Covid at present in NZ

    1. Look. Governments could compel people to get vaccinated against the flu because it was virulent and not just communicable.

      But what ever the response to a novel virus it has to be a blanket approach. The human rights Act allows the government to close everything but it can’t for instance shut down all churches because the human rights Act says you can’t discriminate and vaccinating just old people could be discrimination against everyone else so it has to be a blanket approach.

      1. Geoff Lye: “….the Delta Variant is killing young people.”

        That’s not what the MoH stats are saying. Could you provide evidence of this, please?

  6. The last election was less than a year ago.. Labour stated then and continues to state they want house prices to increase.

    The MSM seem well and truly brought off. Like I say; “NZ news = 99.75% Covid and 0.25% interest rates”. Thankfully I don’t own a TV.

    I’ve voted TOP the last 2 elections and if the election was held today I’d vote ACT.

  7. At twenty something in the poles, it’s an advantage for Judith to make things chaotic by claiming to defund the government and shift those resources into private hands. You can maybe pick up a few votes but it’s largely. So The National Party of New Zealand don’t like being prepared for a crises and there’s lots of people amongst there voting base that would rather see people they don’t like, die, specifically poor people. Nationals track record on hating the poor is all over countless election signs.

    Of course this has consequences. I want services for the poor but National just hate it so can’t. Everytime National get in they defund the poor to win.

    As severe as corona is, it’s not our worst problem and we require a full range of well funded government services.

    There will be recovery from corona at severe cost. There will not be any recovery from the melting of the polar ice caps, rising sea levels and the other Deleterious effects of the climate crises.

    Recovery as in unable to support a population of 8 billion. That, is how the National Party treats its own family members. Aroha nui.

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