Tākuta Ferris calls for Māori voters to intentionally exploit electoral loophole to get rid of Government
What the flying Christ?
After destroying the Māori Party by putting his ego in front of the waka and pursuing a needless leadership challenge inside te Pati Māori, Tākuta Ferris is now lecturing Labour on how to win the election?
‘The balls on this guy.
It’s like an arsonist arguing with you over your insurance policy!
Ferris is in no position to lecture on winning the election after he blew up te Pati Māori!
YES the overhang is important, we’ve all been saying that for the last 2 years, THAT’S WHY the Māori Party reset was so crucial, to show they were evolving beyond an opposition party of activists and moving to a credible and stable party to be trusted with supply and confidence and that would have worked IF Doc, Eru and Mariameno hadn’t decided to plot!
So now Doc is arguing that the entire Left should actually trust him and Maroameno with the overhang after blowing up te Pati Māori???
Why the living Christ would voters trust Flakey Ferris with supply and fucking confidence for the entire country?
Doc is saying Chippy would need to rely on Doc for supply and confidence – how will the rest of the electorate respond to that?
Trusting a Māori Party with its shit together is one thing, trusting those who caused the schism is another.
All Ferris has done here is give NZF a new attack line.
Labour must destroy the usurpers in those Māori electorates that are standing as Independents or else Winston gets to paint the entire Labour/Green/Māori Party Government as utterly reliant on Flakey Ferris for supply and confidence.
That dog don’t hunt.
There is one chance left to utilise the overhang for the Left, and that is if te Parti Māori can hold onto 4 electorates plus have a very low Party vote, which when you survey the brand destruction caused is a real possibility.
te Parti Māori need to hold 4 electorates, and run candidates in Doc and Mariameno’s electorates to aid Labour coming through the middle, then and only then could a Labour+Greens+TPM Government have 51%+.
Relying on Ferris to be Supply and Confidence would be a nightmare that the Political Right would exploit all the way until the election.
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Takuta team has Maori content providers on tiktok, FB, etc.. pushing anti-JT rhetoric and apparently getting the likes and support from Maori commentors. Maori people ain’t the smartest when it comes to politics, they (generalising) seem to let their feelings get the best of them instead.
Maori are no different than Pakeha when it comes to voting .Most do mot look at the facts but go with their feelings on that day and how it will effect them personally which is not always best for the country as a whole.
This is why politicians with high personality get voted in .
Trevor you just described a load of National/ACT voters perfectly. They certainly don’t look at the facts and absolutely vote for what it’s in for them (very much at the detriment of the country). Deny that and you are not being honest
Hey don’t make that sort of comment stephen l – it only gets peoples backs up. Their emotions get the better of them. And that is not just a Maori thing. All NZAO runs on emotion, you can see that from the constantly irrational things that are done from EVERY department of government. And the voters after finding themselves alive after a mini-plague of Covid19+. That was so upsetting. And that Labour didn’t have the nous to ensure that the right amount of assistance to all needy, just not big business ones with the biggest mouths – no need to be the waiter serving Mr Creosote – ‘Just try a wafer sir’. Now that got my emotion going, and though I disdain antivaxxers, they are all around. pop out of the woodwork, so my emotions tend to edge towards resigned. And that applies when I read dumb comments like yours stephen.
It is a strange strategy. Maori voters on the Maori Roll can vote for whichever candidate they like. All parties are able to contest the Maori seats. Setting out to suppress other parties contesting these seats is anti democratic. Tau iwi and tangata whenua can also vote for TPM or other parties on the Party vote. Why is this different? Overhangs are not new. I am struggling to think when it worked in the Left’s favour. An overhang can work both ways as it did in the Andrew Bayly by-election. This is naive and imho desperate. Get out the party vote ye parties of the Left.
The really sad thing is, is that with all the shit this current government is heaping on our country the Left are still scratching around chasing scenarios that might get it to a precarious 51%.
We need a bold Labour party with a clear plan to show a path forward.
Bold, you are joking, not under that man they have running the show, doubt he knows what the word means.
You might be a bit out of your depth on this one
” We need a bold Labour party with a clear plan to show a path forward.
The British have realized that if they want a clear winnable alternative that actually stands for real people who are exploited by neo liberal corporate interests you begin with a new funded grassroots movement and provides policies and values that identify with working people and provide real pathways to a better life.
Rather than between two main parties of the left and the right, Starmer’s leadership led to the 2024 election to be a contest between the challenging right and the defending hard right.
” The result is a political landscape in New Zealand where genuine alternatives are absent ”
” The moribund state of politics in New Zealand, where neoliberalism remains the unchallenged orthodoxy. Decades after the so-called reforms of the 1980s and 1990s, the ideological framework of market supremacy, privatisation, and austerity continues to dominate both major parties. Labour, once the party of working-class aspiration, has hollowed itself out into a centrist managerial machine, more concerned with fiscal credibility than transformative change. National, predictably, remains committed to the same neoliberal dogma, offering little more than harsher versions of the same policies.
Now you have the NZLP talking about winning back the Māori seats due to the current breakdown of TMP. That will mean that those Māori voters will get a Labour MP that does not support economic policies that TMP were making non negotiable. It will mean more of the same poor outcomes that neo liberal policies encourage and harm Māori directly.
When the current government get reelected without the popular vote next year it will finally force a real rebirth of a genuine left movement that will look to leaders like Mamdani who are creating real outcomes and improvement in real peoples lives.
Mamdami – I hope not he took advice from the wrong people and got money from filthy people he has been blown up to be something he is not.
Where did you get that from? The internet? Big money was thrown at Corrupt Cuomo, and big Democratic endorsements withheld. His was a grassroots movement with practical promises and that’s why he won. We absolutely need the same here.
” We need a bold Labour party with a clear plan to show a path forward.
The British have realized that if they want a clear winnable alternative that actually stands for real people who are exploited by neo liberal corporate interests you begin with a new funded grassroots movement and provides policies and values that identify with working people and provide real pathways to a better life.
Rather than between two main parties of the left and the right, Starmer’s leadership led to the 2024 election to be a contest between the challenging right and the defending hard right.
” The result is a political landscape in New Zealand where genuine alternatives are absent ”
” The moribund state of politics in New Zealand, where neoliberalism remains the unchallenged orthodoxy. Decades after the so-called reforms of the 1980s and 1990s, the ideological framework of market supremacy, privatisation, and austerity continues to dominate both major parties. Labour, once the party of working-class aspiration, has hollowed itself out into a centrist managerial machine, more concerned with fiscal credibility than transformative change. National, predictably, remains committed to the same neoliberal dogma, offering little more than harsher versions of the same policies.
Now you have the NZLP talking about winning back the Māori seats due to the current breakdown of TMP. That will mean that those Māori voters will get a Labour MP that does not support economic policies that TMP were making non negotiable. It will mean more of the same poor outcomes that neo liberal policies encourage and harm Māori directly.
When the current government get reelected without the popular vote next year it will finally force a real rebirth of a genuine left movement that will look to leaders like Mamdani who are creating real outcomes and improvement in real peoples lives.
https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2025/02/07/guest-blog-ian-powell-important-lessons-from-uk-politics-for-new-zealand-labour-party/#google_vignette
https://nzagainstthecurrent.blogspot.com/2025/11/a-tale-of-two-countries.html#more
Is Ferris Maori for ferret? Just wondering.
In my humble opinion, a Labour, Greens, TMP govt is a 3 headed monster NZ could never financially survive. Much better the Labour party and the greens with TMP giving support is our The option. Or Labour and TMP with green on the outside. But having the greens and the MP both extracting thier pound of flesh in post election deals we would leave the slightly left of centre for the radical left agenda of high migration and billions spent on climate initiatives (greens) and laws for one ethnic group.. or lack thereof (Maori party) I want rid of this pack of aholes running things at the moment as much as the rest of you but one 3 headed monster for another is not the way forward. IMO.
Cautionary and thoughtful Kim, and quite possible, considering that cynical phrase of Murphys Law – “Anything that can go wrong will go wrong.” Murphy’s Law is the name given to any adage stating that if anything can go wrong, it will. Interpretations of the adage were found in documents dating to the early 19th century.
However more – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murphy's_law
To my mind it means that despite much thought and planning, something not realised or fully considered, or unexpected, is likely to arise. That seems to be how it is and makes life so exciting and our society and its ways so exasperating, huh! Are we the right s-tuff to cope? There are green shoots.
Go on and advise them then smartie rightie – and set a legal success fee for when they win; and then hold it over their heads that you will sue for it if they don’t pay, but then retract and say that if they follow all your advice while in office you will graciously accept the base fee agreed. Now that would be a smart way to get maximum leverage on the left. It’s what is happening on the right and possibly all over as it is an offset of the money virus – MPG money, power, greed – that is sweeping the globe. It is like myrtle rust, rusting our attempts at either democracy or more humane societies – the MPG virus is a killer. No ‘green shoots’ after it.
Some old clips from band The Animals from way back seem right up to date.
This of The House of the Rising Sun starts – There is a House in New Orleans (but if you insert Well-ing-ton) instead and think ‘the Beehive’, the rest of the song could be a precautionary tale on any young politician, Pakeha or Maori.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxrz00XSOAo
Seriously is this fool, Ferris, for real, or missing half his brain? He jointly causes a problem, because of his enormous ego, and still can’t see how his gob has got him into so much trouble that there is no NO ESCAPE for him or KK! How can’t these two scumbags see it for themselves – do we have to S P E L L it out S L O W L Y ?
As for I’m Right, shooting his mouth of yet again with insults. Yes, Labour did get some things wrong 2023 election and paid the price, but there is no disputing that National LIED and LIED and LIED through their teeth and are still LYING! Most of what they promised was, and still is, absolute Bullsh&t! How can he be so damned stupid? It’s clear which party is in a “shambles” and it’s not Labour. At least Labour has a leader who is PM material not a egotistical CEO misfit. Just another desperate RW voter who surely must see the ‘lie of the land’ after two years of total mayhem!
“Narcissist” is over used but not in this lunkheads case. A political ignoramus in terms of appreciating strategy and tactics.
Tau iwi are quite entitled to assist LP campaigns as are Māori in other seats.
A real tragedy if some from TPM scupper a working relationship with LP on the basis of false individual loyalty. Mind you agents provocateur are always lurking in politics.
The right are a shambles….
Act and NZF party at each others throats (snigger)
National still with the same leader who leads the biggest swing against a sitting PM and government in NZ political history….
National have become Act lapdogs and will bend over on command from Seymour to stay in power.
As I mentioned….the right are an absolute shambles.
Just look at the image to this post and under their names in their minds they would see written in neon letters ‘Stars of Stage and Screen’. They have absorbed that saying ‘If you can’t beat ’em, join ’em.’ Maori and nation’s concerns are to the back and personal to the fore.
I think best to leave TPM to sort themselves out – or not, as the case may be.
I wouldn’t vote for cowboy hat man or Ferris any more than I would for Peters – but they’re courting other voters. They will get their shinto together or not, but hanging their disorder on any possible Left coalition only hurts that coalition.
If they implode the Left will get half their votes – unless they foolishly pretend to need them.