The Bradbury Group with Helen Clark, Simon Wilson, Steve Able, Kerrin Leonie and Maria Slade

1. ” Why isn’t the economy recovering? ” Because callous urban greed coupled with arrogant disconnect has fucked our PRIMARY INDUSTRY farmers into a cow udder only mono-economy and that’s failing.
   But don’t worry! The supermarkets have farms out the back beside the car parks so just ask for what you need. A kg of cow meat and three veg? No problem. A pimply kid on minimum wages will whip that up in no time.
   There are only two things you never, ever fuck with. Farming and Russians.
   Oh wait…

2. Martyn – 2nd Anniversary of the Hamas attack – no mention

   • lol tell us more about the 40 million beheaded babies

     • Mohamed Khan – Wow – just wow.

       • Nobody believes your lies about beheaded babies or rapes or murders by Hamas, zionist.

         • Mohammed Khan – Never said that – stay on point

     • Population of Palestine 5.3m people. Minus 40m babies….. your math aint mathing son.

3. I shall try and tune in, but in the meantime, here is the answer to question 1:
   No ramifications other than some lefties are upset and outraged – as usual. Everyone gives no shit – it’s not our war. And besides, Palestine does not qualify to be a state yet. It doesn’t have the structures in place. Everything else is just kneejerk virtue signalling from woke countries. And woke lefties in NZ.

   • Wow Krautet, what a woke comment by you.

4. Why is Luxon punishing unemployed youth? For the same reason drunken wastrels bash the missus & kids – for the illusion of being in control of something in his life, while the county falls apart around him.

5. “New Zealand wasn’t a court” Chris Hipkins MP

   17 September. 2025 Chris Hipkins acknowledges that New Zealand was not a court.

   From RNZ:
   Lillian Hanly, Political reporter 17 Sept. 2025
   https://www.rnz.co.nz/…/nz-govt-will-not-respond-on…
   ‘…..Hipkins acknowledged New Zealand wasn’t a court, “there are processes around how you find that legally,” he said.
   {NZ govt ‘will not respond’ on latest accusation of genocide in Gaza’)

   Chris Hipkins acknowledgment, that New Zealand wasn’t a court, is the same as Christopher Luxon’s government position on the genocide in Gaza.
   Acccording Chris Hipkins and the New Zealand Labour Party, New Zealand cannot make a determination that Israel is committing genocide in Gaza, because New Zealand isn’t/wasn’t a court.
   As well as being in line with the government’s position, this is also the ‘position’ held by the Labour Party, as declared by Chris Hipkins in December 2023.

   From RNZ 8 Dec 2023:
   In a statement Chris Hipkins said: “Damien O’Connor is incredibly passionate about this issue….”
   “However the Labour Party’s position remains that it is for the relevant international bodies to determine whether actions by Israel are within the constraints of international law.”
   (Labour’s Damien O’Connor goes against party policy in calling Israel’s actions in Gaza ‘genocide’).

   The New Zealand Labour Party ‘position’ on the genocide in Gaza, “that New Zealand wasn’t a court”, that it is up to the courts to decide on the genocide in Gaza, is the exact same position as that held by the UK Labour Government.

   From Al Jazeera;
   UK Labour Party members vote to recognise Gaza genocide at conference
   …….The move adds pressure on the UK government, led by Prime Minister Keir Starmer, which has been slammed over its stance on the Gaza war… …
   The decision contrasts with Labour leader and Prime Minister Keir Starmer, as well as senior ministers, who have argued that the question of genocide should be determined by international courts rather than politicians……

   https://www.aljazeera.com/…/uk-labour-party-members…

   Are Chris Hipkins and Keir Starmer right?

   International case law interpreting the Genocide Convention seems to be against them.
   The ICJ has ruled that not only do states have a right to determine that a genocide is being committed that once they have determined that a genocide is being commited, they have an obligation to take action to prevent it, states can even be held liable if they don’t exercise this legal obligation.

   26 Feb 2007
   Serbia was found guilty of failing to prevent the genocide of some 8,000 Bosnian Muslims at Srebrenica in 1995, the UN’s highest court ruled today. But the international court of justice cleared Serbia of direct responsibility for genocide and complicity in genocide in Bosnia, in the 1992-1995 war.
   …… the International Court of Justice (ICJ) found Serbia guilty of failing to prevent genocide at Srebrenica but cleared it of directly committing or being complicit in the genocide itself. The court concluded that while Serbia didn’t commit the Srebrenica massacre, it had violated the Genocide Convention by not taking action to prevent it….
   =
   Key Rulings by the ICJ (2007)
   Serbia was found to have breached its obligation under the Genocide Convention by failing to take any action to prevent the Srebrenica massacre.

   The government of Ireland have determined that Israel is committing a genocide. Ireland is a country and wasn’t a court.

   Despite what Chris Hipkins and Keir Starmer maintain; States are obligated to determine a genocide is being committed and to act to try and prevent it.

6. Wow impressed you get former PM Helen Clark and UNDP administrator on your show. Great interview MB. Will watch the rest later.

7. Word of the day; Unfolding?

   What’s with that?

   “Today Labour MPs will stand alongside thousands calling on the New Zealand Government to take meaningful action to end the unfolding genocide in Gaza – including immediate diplomatic and economic sanctions on Israel”
   Labour foreign affairs spokesperson, Peeni Henare said

   The above is the best statement so far to come from the Labour Party about the genocide in Gaza and I welcome it.

   There are some things in Peeni Henare’s statement, that make it abit dodgy, the first thing is, the government deny that there is a genocide in Gaza. Until the government is forced to admit, there is a genocide in Gaza, they will do none of the thing that the thousands of New Zealanders Labour MPs are standing alongside are calling for.
   By denying there is a genocide in Gaza, is how government MPs, evade their binding international legal obligation to the Genocide Convention.
   Ispso facto ‘no genocide, no legal obligation to prevent and punish it’
   Labour MPs need to start challenging the government with facts and figures and expert testimony from Genocide Scholars and the UN and Palestinian witnesses to the genocide, calling out the government for their genocide denial and demanding from the floor of parliament that the government recognise that there is a genocide going on and take the action that they are legally obligated to do. None of which Labour MPs have done so far.
   The other problem I have with Peeni Henare’s press statement is this phrase, “unfolding genocide”. The insertion of the word unfolding before the word genocide is not accidental, Peeni is reading from a strict guideline for Labour MPs. Chris Hipkins uses the exact same phrase. Chris Hipkins used the phrase, “unfolding genocide” last week on the Bradbury Group and on Radio NZ when he was interviewed on the government’s response (non-response) to UN investigation that concluded that Israel is committing genocide in Gaza. Chris Hipkins said there was an unfolding genocide in Gaza. When Chris Hipkins was challenged by reporter Lillian Hanly to define the difference between an ‘unfolding genocide’ and a genocide. Chris Hipkins reply to Hanly was that New Zealand is not a court, (implying that New the Zealand government can’t determine a genocide is being committed). More explicitly Chris Hipkins added, “there are processes around how you find that legally,”

   New Zealand is not a court

   Lillian Hanly, Political reporter 17 Sept. 2025

   ‘..Hipkins acknowledged New Zealand wasn’t a court, “there are processes around how you find that legally,” he said.
   {NZ govt ‘will not respond’ on latest accusation of genocide in Gaza’)

   In the same RNZ report Winston Peters response was exactly the same.

   Minister for Foreign Affairs Winston Peters said the UN Commission’s finding was “not a legal finding.”
   “We’re interested in what the international courts might say, and that’s what we would wait for. We will not respond to this.”
   (NZ govt ‘will not respond’ on latest accusation of genocide in Gaza’)
   https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/573334/nz-govt-will-not-respond-on-latest-accusation-of-genocide-in-gaza

   Words

   Poets, priests and politicians
   Have words to thank for their positions
   Words that scream for your submission
   No one’s jamming their transmission
   When their eloquence escapes you
   Their logic ties you up and rapes you!

   From the Police (the band)

   The genocide in Gaza has stopped. One thing we can be sure about; If Israel restarts the genocide, the Luxon National Party led government will not lift a finger, and the Hipkins Labour party led opposition will not take them to task over it.

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