Winston kills his chance with Labour, gives Wayne Brown a possible new candidate while highlighting Trump fear

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Winston Peters sacks Phil Goff as UK High Commissioner over comments about Donald Trump

The foreign affairs minister says Phil Goff’s position as High Commissioner to the United Kingdom is “untenable,” following public comments about US President Donald Trump.

Video shows Goff speaking at a Chatham House event with Finland’s foreign minister, and during a Q&A the two were discussing how Finland kept the peace in its border with Russia.

“I was re-reading Churchill’s speech to the House of Commons in 1938 after the Munich Agreement, and he turned to Chamberlain, he said, ‘You had the choice between war and dishonour. You chose dishonour, yet you will have war’,” Goff said.

“President Trump has restored the bust of Churchill to the Oval Office. But do you think he really understands history?”

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Foreign Minister Winston Peters told reporters at Parliament the decision to sack Goff was one of the most difficult things he has had to do.

Three things about this knee jerk reaction.

1 – The conservative faction inside Labour who want a deal with NZF instead of the Māori Party have just been punched in the face by Winston – you don’t knife a former Labour leader and think Labour will forgive you.

2 – With Goff free, Wayne Brown might get a new candidate in the Auckland Mayoralty race.

3- What this really highlights is the fear this Government has towards any criticism of Trump, that he is so thin skinned that if he hears any criticism he will lash out.

 

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  1. Oh come on. Goff asked a loaded question which couldn’t possibly be answered in order to make a smart-arse c political comment.

    Pure political posturing.

  2. Winston has gone full blown woke and has bowed to his master Trump.
    But never fear deputy prime minister David Seymour will reinstate Goff because Goffs comments were simply “free speech” right? Seymour seems very conspicuous by his silence on this.
    As for Winston, meh!

  3. I think it’s pretty obvious from what Hipkins had to say, that there might be enough in Labour to suggest you are off the mark. Hipkins was in no way scathing of Peters in his response.

  4. Goff made a stupid comment for a diplomat. His role is to represent the NZ Government, not give his own views. And taking the piss out of someone as thin skinned as Trump when he’s busy firing tarrifs at everyone is definitely not a smart move.

  5. Goff was a diplomat what he said was not diplomatic despite it being true . Winston had no choice and I am sure Clark would have done the same.

  6. Should have known better, diplomats have to play by different rules and no chance he’d win a mayoral vote in Auckland this time around. I’m sure there’ll be a sinecure for him at Otago uni or some other Left Wing think tank.

  7. Goff’s comment was witty and he is a bright man. However Winston was right to be decisive and take no chances. Had he consulted Luxon they’d be having a facilitated hui.

  8. The “free” World is in fear of a tantrum from Trump. What Goff asked would be regarded as a pertinent question by most, but if it percolated to Trump the response could be catastrophic.

  9. So what they are saying is suck up to Trump, appease and flatter.

    How disgusting.

    What will they do when Trump notices our nuclear-free status?

    “Gone by lunchtime” is the famous line made by Don Brash, Leader of the Opposition in relation to New Zealand’s nuclear-free policy. One of his statements was that if or when he gets into parliament the policy would be ‘gone by lunchtime’. He promised to try to change the policy mainly to please the USA government if he wins the next election.

    Wankers.

  10. Winston is never going to be a chance with labour again .Why would they want the river of filth party in any government they might form in the future .No room for anti vax racists in any future government in nz .
    Labour and Greens will form next govt and take NZ foward in the world of giving a toss for all citizens in the country not just the 10%

  11. Lets not forget that Chatham House is one of those highly influential, Richie Rich organizations that politicians, far and wide, kowtow to. Meaning, they fcuk over democracy!

  12. Which world leader will have the courage to tell Trump et al to go get fucked?

    Appeasement didn’t stop Hitler, and it won’t stop Trump or Putin.

  13. He’s Goff and he’s off! Winston sucking up to Trump–but was it necessary? The whole world has to learn to give the grotesque ‘Trumpfather’ a return serve like Canada is doing at the moment.

    Trump has talked about expelling Canada from 5 Eyes, so how far behind can NZ be in that respect if he even remembers where we are. NZ Nuke policy will not be high on the Trumpy to do list…unless some local Atlas rat in CoC Govt. reminds the yanks.

    Tarrifs will hit what ever the Govt. may do or say, so again, the world needs to form new alliances and sideline the USA.

  14. If Goff’s comment had been ignored no one would be any the wiser as it would have gone unnoticed and disappeared. But oh no slimy righty tighty hack Luke Malpass from Stuff had to stir the pot and spill the beans.

  15. The Finnish Foreign Minister’s refusal to directly answer Goff’s rhetorical question tells us that the question was unwise. But it’s probably a sacking offence only in the current context of global terror at Trump’s stupidity and vindictiveness.
    The concerning thing leading from this is to consider how craven and supine we are going to become in the next 4 years. If Trump says, “We can keep protecting you from China but we want all your maritime resources, fish and minerals from your big beautiful Exclusive Economic Zone and I think Trump should own all your fantastic golf courses and make them even greater. If not I might have a word with President Xi” ?

    • That’s right, the Trumpfathers style is “nice country you got there Noo Zeelan…shame if something happened to it…”

    • Winnie may well have run out of lives over his pro- Trump brownn nosing, AB ?
      $ 20 BILLION of NZ exports to China put at risk if Winnie puts his foot in mouth.

  16. Peters is out of touch with European sentiment.

    Being offended on Donald Trump’s behalf may be something that Peters may come to regret.

    In the dispute between Europe and the US over Ukraine, Phil Goff’s comments were not out of line with the views of UK and EU politicians and leaders.

    By being offended on Donald Trump’s behalf, Winston Peters has sided with the US and against Europe.

    This is a decisions that will come back to haunt him.

    If Peters replaces Goff with a pro-US appointee it will be death for our relationship with Europe.

  17. Winston may well agree with Goffs statement but it wasn’t ‘diplomatic’. Now if Winston has to negotiate directly with Trump he will get some respect for his ability to say, “Your Fired!”.

  18. ‘Send the Mexicans home’ isn’t exactly becoming of a NZ MP either. But you can’t beat that absolute clanger ‘that is what it is’ in confirmation of a two-tier society based on health status

    • Yes Ethan the hypocrisy in Peters sacking given his own comments in parliament of the Green member. Not only that he doubles down.
      I also see the hypocrisy in those saying Goffs sacking was justified. These same people labeled the left woke for Posy Parkers shut down of free speech and yet they cannot see the similarity here.
      Peters believed it was a show of strength when in fact it just shows what a weak woke old man he is and struggles with media.

  19. British MPs “HORRIFIED BY TRUMP”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMbBLLzsWFM

    Watch on YouTube as UK MPs lambast Donald Trump in the House of Commons.

    (The only dissenting British MP being, Nigel Farage, the anti-immigrant racist leader of the far right Reform Party. That Elon Musk has donated to.)

    As a US lickspittle, Winston Peters should be worried that Europe’s horror at Trump doesn’t transfer to this country.

    New Zealand First, or US first?

    Trump’s policy is America First, every other country second or last. Crawling to Trump puts New Zealand at odds with Europe and the rest of the world, not least with our biggest trading partner China.

    Sacking Goff may blow up to be the biggest political misstep in Winston Peters long political career.

  20. Being squeamish about NZF may not be an option. If the right are successful in radicalizing and isolating TPM. The left are going to be hit hard by upcoming changes to the media landscape in NZ. Look at what’s happened to ‘decent bloke’ Duncan Garner and be afraid. Be very afraid because this is going to ripple out very quickly.

  21. So when Trump invades our commonwealth brother, Canada, or throws them out of 5 Eyes. Or bullies our NATO ally, Greenland/Denmark. Will the Coalition have the nerve to standup?
    Or are they trying so hard to hope the US triumvirate (or MTV) don’t have a map with us on it, and won’t pick on us, if we hide?

  22. Oh dear,
    Mr Goff insinuated something mean about a creature who himself hurls insults around hourly.
    Pocahontas, sleepy joe, deranged Jack Smith etc etc etc

  23. Yeah nah – this dismissal doesn’t add up. Who remembers the recent anti-immigrant / anti-Mexican jibes from NZF? By the same measure, those racist dickholes should also be down the road by now.

  24. I’ve been saying for a while that Winston has permanently burned his bridge with Labour now, even if they agreed to patch things up there’s no way the greens would ever support a deal with NZF again

  25. Does Labour lose its chance with Winston? Labour has corrupted its purpose and integrity long ago and now is just a bunch of ‘mushrooms’ sharing in the limelight while they sort out their next Big Chance. Thanks Mr Giddens and your Third Way, look for the exit if you haven’t already gone. And the ape-leader of the economists; (ape leader is what unmarried women left on the shelf in Regency times were called). Mil-ton Friedman should have been a lonely sort shouting at the moon, but he and Hayek had a fragrant odour on them that apparently the rat-faced pollies and of course the financiers and investors were drawn irresistibly to.

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