Another week of shame and disgrace in the Beehive while New Zealanders stand in solidarity with Palestine

1. Doesn’t that header photo elicit such wonderful feelings of martyrdom and victimhood. Good to go for another generation or three. Any takers wanting to invest (and lose) their funds in a revitalised Gaza with a view to throwing their money away. They had their chance and trusted the wrong leaders.

2. Doesn’t that header photo elicit such wonderful feelings of martyrdom and victimhood. Good to go for another generation or three. Any takers wanting to invest (and lose) their funds in a revitalised Gaza with a view to throwing their money away. They had their chance and trusted the wrong leaders.

3. Doesn’t that header photo elicit such wonderful feelings of martyrdom and victimhood. Good to go for another generation or three. Any takers wanting to invest (and lose) their funds in a revitalised Gaza with a view to throwing their money away. They had their chance and trusted the wrong leaders.

4. It used to be that in a civilized society Murder was the ultimate crime that could be committed.
   Amnesty International Israel openly admits that in all likelihood Israel is guilty of crimes against Humanity and ethnic cleansing but not “Genocide” that tells me all I need to know.
   Rape, murder, ethnic cleansing, illegal detentions, colonialism, open racism, land theft and crimes against Humanity are now deemed “Antisemitic” as a defense by the Jewish state. Genocide?, oy vey how dare you!
   Everyone of all the International bodies and safeguards of Internal law are now also deemed “Antisemitic” by the Jewish state.
   In what fucking world is that a defense?
   I’m sorry officer I know i smashed his head in with a metal pipe and i only just met him, but in my defense im Jewish? don’t be fucking antisemitic, I’m innocent. The Holocaust ya know. See how fucking pathetic that sounds?
   Here’s a truth bomb Gaby, Worlds first case of terrorism against the Romans. Israel. Worlds first car bomb. Israel. Worlds first letter bomb. Israel. Worlds first case of ethnic cleansing in the Bible. Israel.
   One can not help but come to the conclusion that the issue is not the Palestinians but Israel the worlds oldest terrorist state.

   • But surely, given marxist logic, the Jews who rebelled against the Roman Empire (Ithere had been no Israel since the eight century BCE) were freedom fighters, not terrorists?

5. There’s a lot of nonsense above about “release the hostages and the bombing stops”. It won’t. This is about the greater Israel project, the aim is to expel Palestinians from Gaza and the West Bank.

   The end result is to guarantee the destruction of the Zionist project. Israel can appear to win the war but the cost is exponential. People won’t invest, they will leave. Who would risk their future living in a house which has murdered it’s neighbours?

   • Is there some reason why Jordanians shouldn’t return to Jordan? After all Jordan, along with many of the surrounding countries, did expel its Jews. Call it a population exchange if you like.

     • I think that you are going to see a voluntary exchange of Israelis to safe havens. For their own benefit and safety. Large numbers have dual citizenship and family elsewhere. I’ve seen reported a million have left already.

       • No doubt surrounding Israeli Arabs, together with Palestinians, would be welcomed into western countries. Although wir schaffen das seems to be off the agenda now for some extraordinary reason. But please do let me know where in the world is a “safe haven” for Jews.

         • Here, Australia, UK, USA ffs try being a Kurd or Armenian or similar. Jews don’t have a monopoly on being persecuted. As a consequence of persecution they should be better aligned with the persecuted, and not be the persecutor.

6. Done that Minty, and who shot the craw, Assad, where too, the hard man of the East.
   Hope the new don!t fuck up like the past new, Egypt and so on.

7. A thousand pardons AO. It appears I under reported slightly. You can find figures yourself at Save the Children and UNFPA. Strangely though, there are no figures on the Gaza Ministry of Health site. Now why would that be. Doesn’t fit the genocide narrative maybe?

   • All you need to do is produce the figures that cover the genocidal year in question – Oct 7th 2023 to Oct 2024. No other period counts. Why does the Gaza Ministry of Health do not have these figures. Well, what hospitals still stand in Gaza amidst all the carnage, pain, devastation, bombing, shooting and so on, and who has the time and inclination to bean count on top of providing healthcare, while attempting to protect themself and those they are caring for, during this highly precarious time.

     Life no longer functions normally when your world is being destroyed all around you.

     • But the Gaza Ministry of Health produces daily death tolls with exquisite precision. Which toll The Lancet adds to with figures plucked straight out of thin air. Why would the ministry not have the same intimate knowledge of daily births given the prominence accorded women and children in dedicated articles on the suffering of Palestinians?

       • We were getting figures on the regular early on, back when at least half of Gaza’s infrastructure still stood, and most hospitals were still functioning. Those days are gone now, place is blown to bits. We are being drip fed numbers now, estimations based upon the early carnage rates. When you see these numbers now, they are typically qualified as being on the conservative side, meaning they are estimations. And when you factor in the utter destruction of Gaza, that even mainstream media shows snippets of, and hear the views/plans of Israeli leadership towards the Palestinians in Gaza and the area of Gaza itself, then this alone adds weight to the numbers and to the description of what is taking place there – genocide.

       • Well Duh, The death toll is taken directly from bodies that are taken to hospital.
         There are nearly no working birthing units in Gaza and any births are nearly impossible to document.
         I’m so tired on Genocide apologists like yourself who does not even have a basic understanding of the definition of Genocide and its criteria.

         • Well that looks like me and Erdogan both then; his denial of a genocide in which up to 1.2 million, out of a total population of 1.5 million Armenians living in Turkey were killed in a little over a year being legendary. A similar story with the Assyrians and Greeks. The Holocaust stands at the pinnacle of genocides of course. The Rwandan genocide only took a few months. Then there’s the genocide of religious minorities in Muslim lands which secularists turn the other cheek to.
           But Palestinian victimhood apologists like yourself have been bleating about a genocide since ’48, in which time the Palestinian population has increased almost 8-fold. That’s a very, very strange genocide. I don’t believe there has been another like it in history. Perhaps you can know otherwise? If so, do tell.

         • Your take on history is immaterial to what is happening now. Israel is committing genocide, but to me, this is only half the problem. We are the other half of this problem, because we are allowing this to happen. Genocidal maniacs never stop until the other half of this problem finally puts an end to it. That’s the road we are all on.

         • I take the long view of jihad history which began in the 620s with the first attack on Jews by an jihadist warlord and continues in a direct line to the current Hamas jihadists.

8. The level of intellectual dishonesty here is quite amazing. No where near genocide, I mean they let them know where they are going to attack next, they are sending food aid to Palestine that is quickly hijacked by Hamas and not distributed to the people. Please somebody that hasn’t lost their mind explain to me how this is genocide???

   • Just provide the verifiable evidence that supports your claims and – boom – you’re in the money…but you can’t and you won’t, the latter because those that put effort in, know that the points you are making are PR-induced garbage and you can’t because it all is the aforementioned PR garbage. Love for you to even remotely prove me wrong – I won’t hold my breath.

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