National – 28.5%
Labour – 28%
Greens – 13.5
ACT – 9%
NZF – 6.5%
MP – 9%
Yes – you read that right – Māori Party at 9%
Following the Talbot Poll that shows Labour ahead of National, following the Stuff Poll that shows National tumbling, now comes the latest Roy Morgan showing Labour + Green + Māori Party would be the Government and that the Māori Party have finally cracked the code and are now bringing in previous nonvoters.
The danger of the right adopting such controversial race baiting legislation is that it generates a backlash amongst Māori, and the Māori Party surging to a near before seen 9% is that backlash in motion.
The Left have surged because young men are coming back to the fold…
younger men aged 18-49, have swung behind the opposition and now 56.5% support the Opposition Labour/ Greens/ Maori Party compared to only 36.5% supporting the National/ ACT/ NZ First governing coalition. Nevertheless, the governing coalition partner ACT, on 14.5%, has its highest support from this gender and age group as does the Maori Party on 18%.
…THIS is the way the Left wins the 2026 election, they stop alienating 18-49 men and bring them back to the fold, after the Trump victory, we need to dump the alienating woke dogma that drove those men off in the first place.

If the Left actually want to rebuild the current public services and fund genuine solutions by growing the society positively, it is going to need more money.
We must lift the tax yoke off the poorest and put it on the richest!
Bring GST down, subsidise cost and make the wealthiest pay.
Only the Green Wealth Tax and the Māori Party tax policy will make a fundamental difference to working people.
Arguing over which tepid tax to gingerly embrace is not a solution and will lead to more Labour Party incrementalism.
The thing the Labour Party strategists are not seeing is that a strong egalitarian tax policy will bring those middle class Labour Party Auckland voters that Labour haemorrhaged to the Greens back.
For a Party that keeps saying it wants to win Labour they don’t seem to understand why they lost
Labour fucked Auckland over the lockdown, and then added insult to injury by not recognising any of that pain with a build back that justified the sacrifice.
Labour lost working class voters because GST off fruit and vegetables and the petrol prices going back up were a slap in the face and they lost the middle classes who looked at their joke economic platform and intellectually gave their vote to the Greens for their wealth tax.
If Labour had a strong tax policy that gave to the poor while taking from the rich, they would gain back the middle class voters who moved to the Greens WHILE winning back the working classes who didn’t bother too vote.
For a Party that keeps saying it wants to win Auckland back, they don’t seem to know where Auckland is.
A strong Labour Party Tax policy would win back middle class Auckland voters, give working class South Auckland voters a reason to vote and it would take the Greens down a peg or two to a manageable 9% because doesn’t that Party List start getting flakey pretty quick?
For National, they are doomed. Luxon is getting it from his liberal side over how racist ACTs agenda is and his reactionary side who want him to be more racist.
ACTs aim is to start picking up the disintegration of National while NZF plays racist catch up to try and remain politically relevant.
Social Media Hate algorithms will continue to polarise debate in favour of the extremes.
ACT will surge, National will disintegrate and NZF will slip below 5%.
It is the Right who have horribly misread the room and 84 000 marching on the Hikoi shows they have gone too far.
Kiwis are not as hateful as National, ACT and NZF seem to believe they are.
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Can’t help thinking that the 18-49s supposedly driven away from the left by woke dogma are a wet lot.
Is that all it takes to upset the poor wee lads? They got cross and locked themselves in their rooms to play video games. Had a big tantrum because of a few pronouns.
How would they get on in a war? How would they get on having to man a picket-line?
Their battles have all been fought for them and they think they don’t need to make any effort.
To maintain what’s been gained they need to be as politically interested and active as their fathers and grandfathers. Playing pretend wars on their computers will not suffice.
They need to get over themselves and become involved in unions and community groups to safe-guard our rights and land.
This flouncing off in a tizz because Auck got locked down for a long time, has to stop. They are needed and they need the gains already made in employment fields, women’s rights, Maori rights, environmental protections, Health and educational advances.
They cannot afford to revert to childhood and not fight for their own rights. If they think they are immune to these backward-looking incursions by this govt., they are wrong.
guess what most know way more than you think and the new voters next election wont be voting red or blue because they see the continuation of going no where .They also hate all the racist shit that is being dealt up by the right .So you can be as condasending as Luxon if you wish but change is about to happen .
You seem offended Gordon. The article talked a lot about the 18-49 age-group.
If they were that onto it, you’d think they’d have been aware of Luxon looking to be an iffy leader at best and the possibility of Seymour being able to push him around and end up being the boss, was quite high.
They are busy and only exposed to msm which as we know is completely inadequate.
So maybe they aren’t as aware as we would hope, hence they made a big mistake.
I guess Ole Fudgenumbers Farrar will give National a good poll before Christmas.
So Fudgenumbers Farrar and Lester Levy have something in common.
Great just what this country needs is more TPM MP’s – just have a look at Zimbabwe and South Africa for what happens when the ‘indigenous’ start calling the shots.
All warm fuzzies until someone needs to eat something / go to the hospital / turn on a lightbulb / their house is on fire.
yes yes, you hate ‘the blecks’, we know
Spend some time in Zimbabwe or South Africa and then come back to me.
Personally I have no problem with African’s at all but for whatever reason (pretty much without exception) as soon as you have them managing a country everything goes to shit (for everyone in the country regardless of race).
Would be no different here if TPM or their enablers were in charge of anything.
The whites were in charge of Sth Africa and it was racist, if they and their enablers were in charge of anything here… oh wait?
We can dislike the morality of apartheid, but if we want to make empirical judgments rather than see the world through ideology, South Africa (and Zimbabwe, and even Haiti as an earlier example) when South Africa, Zimbabwe and Haiti were administered by Whites, they were prosperous, orderly and coherent nations.
Then what happened? Once “racist” White rule was replaced with Black management, things quickly turned to shit in a few decades.
Then you look on the continental scale at Europe versus Africa: exactly the same empirical phenomenon is very evident.
“when South Africa, Zimbabwe and Haiti were administered by Whites, they were prosperous, orderly and coherent nations.”
For white’s they were prosperous and only orderly and coherent because blacks were beaten.
Mary Ann Evans your empirical judgement is appalling and flawed.
Great comments Mary and I completely agree with this statement:
‘We can dislike the morality of apartheid, but if we want to make empirical judgments rather than see the world through ideology.’
Like I said for whatever reason most of the world that doesn’t have white majority populations (other than more than a few Asian exceptions) are riven by poverty / crime / govt corruption etc and TPM (and also the Greens for that matter) would herald no less if they ever gain the mantle of power.
Nonsense James Brown. Like I said the belief things were better run was because the blacks were beaten and oppressed and gave you false belief through your own ideology things ran well. Why were South African homes guarded with barbed wire? Why were white South African buffoons killing animals for their trophy walls? But the right believe the dictatorship in South African where Mandela was wrongly convicted, where poverty, crime and corruption was of the highest order, was great.
They were happily running things their way before Europeans showed up James hates Brown.
I see what you did there with my name – very clever you must be very proud of yourself.
You have poor memory, I remember South Africa and Rhodesia/Zimbabwe when the colonists called the shots and while they prospered is was based on the suffering of the native people. Majority government is definitely not perfect in those countries now (it’s not that great anywhere in the world to be honest) but going back is not the answer. Human nature being what it is it seems that only a rebirth will create a better society but that is another topic.
Now now then Bonnie, but then on the other hand Zimbabwe’s economy is not great because of the illegal unilateral coercive ‘sanctions’ that the US has imposed against it, so it’s time to go back to one white man-one vote.
James we are not South Africa when you only own 7% of your countries land and you are at the bottom of the heap in many statistics, what do you expect. Māori are a youthful demographic group so that bodes well for TPM. Your views sound red neckish, like you can’t stand for our people to have any power in our own country. My advice to you is suck it up mate or if you don’t like it move to Auz, 80 thousand people have left due to the CoC ruining our country and ruling for the rich. When are New Zealand voters going to learn the CoC rule for the rich and always will now we have to endure two more years of collateral damage that will take decades to fix.
sounds like we are right now with the whiteys in control .And maybe the Maori should hold back the tax they pay on the 80 billion they contribute to GDP .How would you parasitic white pricks afford health care education and tax cut for landlords then .
Your last paragraph James is what we have now and the polls prove that.
Jonzie Kraut will be reaching for the rope!
https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360510063/te-pati-maori-mp-named-bbcs-top-100-women-2024
I’ll go with the intellect of the BBC on this one James. Not sure you’re credentials stand up to scrutiny.
Had a look at your list – a literal Woke Hall of Fame so not surprised she made the cut.
Last time I looked, This was still New Zealand… It is a south pacific country, with a large ethnic Polynesian population… It is NOT a country in Africa that had less than 20% of the country controlling everything with an iron fist before the inevitable uprising, and the usual distortions they create…
Are you really that stupid that you can’t tell the difference? Or is it that you are a mindless bigot, and the skin only has to be “not white” before you consider the utterly vacuous reasoning you are using valid? It’s utter racist morons like you that are the reason NZF even exists, let alone hold pretentious views on its relevance to the modern world….
You really need to stop getting your ideas from the ZB troll farm… You might stop making an utter ass of yourself as a result…
Absolutely right James! Twenty percent of the population are going to overthrow and overwhelm eighty percent of population.
I quake in terror and pace the floor worrying .
It’s not just Maori voting TPM but the white faux ones as well who are increasingly being spat out of our universities and schools after years of cultural indoctrination.
You know the ones – live in Grey Lynn / wear a greenstone the size of a small dog / tell you all about their river and mountain and their granddad who stood next to a Maori once in 1882 / think pidgin English is some kind of badge of honour . .
So that makes you a faux white or racist.
you guys are fucking losers – did you see what happened in England last year when Muslims were targeted by racist wankers like you. and here you are targeting Maori – it won’t be Maori that put you down – that’s for sure.
Contrast the tolerance in the UK for a Muslim standing on a street corner tying to convert passerby’s to Islam compared to a Christian trying to do the same in Kabul / Baghdad / Riyadh and then come back to me.
Good point James and just crickets in reply.
Yes I realise that I am now talking to myself (which is weird) but a Friday night and I am on the Irish whisky.
It’s this age group that is fast losing their jobs from apprenticeships,university students to middle and upper management . The more this government hits them where it hurts the better. Seeing Nicola Willis and her treasury toadies reminded of why we are in such a mess. The quote of the day for me was her trying to give Deborah Russel ( love her or hate her) a lesson on how tax works and basically Deborah told her to answer the question and to quote “stop patronizing me “. Poor Nicola was all at sea with the Labour Party women asking the difficult questions which she didn’t want to answer ( because she couldn’t). We don’t really know it yet but Aotearoa is in big big trouble because this government are taking us past the point of no return and I dare anyone to say any different
you are 100% right .And all those people that say labour has no talent just need to look at the last 2 days .Alicia just took Levy apart and he is not happy about being caught out .And many times we have seen reports showing he was not as good as he made out when running other health boards .Those health boards looked good onpaper then crashed when he left and real accounts did the books .
Yes 100% Gordon.
James we are not South Africa when you only own 7% of your countries land and you are at the bottom of the heap in many statistics, what do you expect. Māori are a youthful demographic group so that bodes well for TPM. Your views sound red neckish, like you can’t stand for our people to have any power in our own country. My advice to you is suck it up mate or if you don’t like it move to Auz, 80 thousand people have left due to the CoC ruining our country and ruling for the rich. When are New Zealand voters going to learn the CoC rule for the rich and always will now we have to endure two more years of collateral damage that will take decades to fix.
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Frank Macasky blog Dec 4th.
One bad poll for a government can be dismissed as “rogue”. Two? That’s damaging.
A recent Talbot Mills done for the Labour Party – released on 1 December – had startling results that would’ve raised eyebrows and furrowed brows on the Beehive’s Ninth Floor.
Simply put, the Poll had Labour on 32% – ahead of National on 31%! It was an unbelievable result and inconceivable that an Opposition Party could pull ahead of the government – in its first term.
The actual results:
Labour: 32%
National: 31%
ACT: 10%
Greens: 10%
Te Pāti Māori: 7%
NZ First: 6%.
The poll was taken from November 22-28.
The poll showed Labour leader Chris Hipkins on 22.7% as preferred prime minister compared to PM Luxon on 22.1%.
National and right-leaning pundits can no longer claim that “people don’t know Luxon and just need to get to know him better”. They do. And they – generally speaking – don’t like him.
But it’s hard to judge on just one poll. It can be easily dismissed by the incumbent government at the receiving end of bad news – and lull Opposition supporters into a false sense of hope.
Except… it wasn’t an outlier.
The following day, Stuff published a second poll, by Freshwater Strategy – and this one was even more damning. According to this poll, National would lose the next election:
National: 34% (-4% points since the election) (43 seats)
Labour: 31% (+4%) (39 seats)
Greens: 13% (+1%) (16 seats)
ACT: 8% (-1%) (10 seats)
NZ First: 6% (n/c) (8 seats)
Te Pāti Māori: 4% (+1%) (6 seats)
The poll was taken between 26-27 November – around the same time as the Talbot Mills poll.
Interestingly, the public appears to have ‘moved on’ from scaremongering on crime, stoked by National, ACT, and an ever click-chasing media. It ranked as only fourth most important, after Cost of Living; Healthcare/Hospitals; and housing supply/affordability.
The fact that respondents were still worried about Cost of Living Pressure – despite tax cuts where Nicola Willis doled out cash like a drunken sailor – speaks to the reality that most New Zealanders have not felt any improvement in their lives with an extra $12.50 a week.
For many, those tax cuts were quickly eaten up by increased government charges or doctors’ fees, as Minister Willis barely increased government part-payments.
National’s reputation as a “fiscally prudent manager” of the economy appears to have taken a serious denting.
The Stuff/Freshwater Poll, however, did not reflect just how dire the situation is for National. Stuff’s headline ran:
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Wrote veteran political reporter, Andrea Vance:
“A grinding recession and racial tensions have ended National’s honeymoon with voters, who would deliver a hung Parliament if an election was held today, a new poll shows.”
Yet again, media pundits have failed to recognise the crucial importance of Special Votes.
As has been pointed out before by this blogger, after Special Votes are counted, the number of seats won on Election Night changes – often dramatically.
National usually loses two seats to the Left Bloc (Labour and/or Greens and/or Te Pāti Māori)
So taking the Stuff/Freshwater Poll and then factoring in ‘Specials’, the result is anything but a hung Parliament:
National: 41 seats + ACT: 10 seats + NZ First: 8 seats = 59
Labour: 39 seats + Greens: 16 seats + Te Pāti Māori*: 6 seats + 2 seats re-allocated = 63
(* over-hang for Te Pāti Māori creates a 122 seat in Parliament instead of the usual 120.)
The Left Bloc ends up with 63 seats, the Right with 59. A clear majority for the Left.
And Luxon’s career gone by lunchtime.
One day, the media’s political pundits will understand the important of Special Votes.
All good news however and while Labour has issues with many of it’s MPs for as long as Chris Hipkins and Andrew Little are involved I will not support them. While they are decent people and I don’t doubt their integrity but Chris reminds me more of a used car salesman than a politician worth trusting. Andrew seems to be captured by intellectual BS and completely lost touch with what working people need, I doubt that he could sell bananas to monkeys also. I want to see them succeed but they need sound ideas first.
Does that mean you wouldn’t vote, Bonnie?
Wouldn’t there be more dead wood in National to annoy you than those 2 old Labour MPs.
They HAD to get fresh-faced little Luxy in to front the party, there was no-one else and they’d tried English, Bridges, Muller, and Collins. All found wanting.
Have Little and Hipkins ever made serious boo-boos to compare with those old Nats?
Have they ever been openly dishonest? Two-faced, reckless with peoples’ lives and well-being. Are their ideas any less sound than what’s being inflicted on people now? Out of the blue.
I’m sure someone can think of something but the general impression isn’t that ghastly, it is?
Others say there is big change coming but not what form it might take and how quickly it might happen. They reckon young people won’t stand for these dullards swapping seats every 3 years or so, for much longer. Ok, what’s their plan?
Till then we are stuck with this lot, for better or worse.
Andrew Little resigned from politics late last year.
Yes and I think Bonnies has her Chrises mixed up as well
I agree with the thrust of this although I won’t labour. Ditch Chris Hipkins but for who?
Yahoo! Now the left have to show a united front on major policy and swap Chippy out for Willy.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/commissioner-lester-levy-accused-of-cooking-the-books-in-heated-parliament-meeting/ANLCUGUCENFUBFCEYGFAPU667M/
The latest three polls are an indication of the corrupt government and the atrocious hand picked commissioner destroying our health system.
Levy was paid to do a job at no expense, the result a catastrophic demise of our once world leading health system.
Luxons only excuse was Labour merging the DHBs which were ironically working.
Jesus the Maaariii are stealing the votes now .THat racist we cant have those brown people have one vote each like us white fellas so best we rush through a bill giving us two votes each and allowing us to vote in the maaariii seats .
https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360511961/police-reveal-they-are-not-track-reach-government-deadline-500-extra-officers
I smell the scent of a resignation.
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