Harris decries Trump after Kelly says he wanted generals like Hitler’s
Kamala Harris said today that comments praising Adolf Hitler reportedly made by Donald Trump to his longest-serving chief of staff offer a window into who the former president “really is” and the kind of commander in chief he would be.
In interviews with The New York Times and The Atlantic published Tuesday (local time), John Kelly warned that the Republican nominee meets the definition of a fascist and that while in office he suggested that the Nazi leader “did some good things”.
Harris, the vice president and Democratic nominee, repeated her increasingly dire warnings about Trump’s mental fitness and his intentions for the presidency.
“This is a window into who Donald Trump really is, from the people who know him best, from the people who have worked with him side by side in the Oval Office and in the Situation Room,” Harris told reporters outside the vice president’s residence in Washington.
The comments from Kelly, the retired Marine general who worked for Trump in the White House from 2017 to 2019, built on past warnings from former top Trump officials as the election enters its final two weeks.
Kelly has long been critical of Trump and previously accused him of calling veterans killed in combat “suckers” and “losers”. His new warnings emerged as Trump seeks a second term vowing to dramatically expand his use of the military at home and suggesting he would use force to go after Americans he considers “enemies from within”.
“He commented more than once that, ‘You know, Hitler did some good things, too,’” Kelly recalled to the Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying “nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good,” but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
In his interview with the Atlantic, Kelly recalled that when Trump raised the idea of needing “German generals,” Kelly would ask if he meant “Bismarck’s generals,” referring to Otto von Bismarck, the chancellor who oversaw the unification of Germany. “Surely you can’t mean Hitler’s generals,” Kelly recalled asking Trump. To which the former president responded, “Yeah, yeah, Hitler’s generals”.
Trump is fascism.
Apologists who attempt to gloss over his perverse attacks on Democracy are the slavish thralls of political corruption.
Trump inherited his economic good fortune from Obama’s hard work and then blew it all on a huge tax cut that benefited the 1%.
He capitulated to authoritarian thugs internationally and terrorised his domestic population.
Trump knows what to do this time, he will embark upon a dizzying descent into an authoritarian nightmare where he will use his experience to launch a never ending assault on every standard of decency.

There is no way NZ should be considering any AUKUS arrangement that will tie us any closer to the American Military Industrial Complex under a cult of personality as demented as Trump.
Apologists claim comparing Trump to Hitler is offensive and that Trump’s record somehow suggests he isn’t the fascist he actually is.
I believe the comparisons between Hitler and Trump are totally legitimate.

I have always been fascinated by Hitler’s rise.
I try and think about how the fuck such evil was allowed to occur, how educated people with values and true moral and ethical character could so blithely turn a blind eye to hateful and evil policies.
I read a lot to try and understand those things because the rise of the Nazi’s is one of the great lessons civilisation needs to carry with it. A bit like Atlantis, which is funny because Atlantis is part of this blog, alongside Captain America.
But I’m getting ahead of myself.
I believe there are many cultural red flags in terms of genuine comparisons with the rise of Hitler and Trump.
History doesn’t repeat but it rhymes and right now Trump may as well be called Bitler.

I want to look at the similarities between Hitler’s rise and Trump’s rise because I sincerely think a Trump win would usher in an Orange Fascism and would begin an American Midnight that could take the planet down a path we fought World War 2 to prevent and seeing as NZ is part of the Washington Consensus (that none of us consented to) our Government has to answer to te American Government.
The Queen may technically be the head of State in NZ, but we all know it’s really the President of the United States of Western Paranoia who we have ultimately answer to.
So who runs America matters to us.
A lot.
Occult:
The Nazi’s had a deep sense of the occult as part of their underlying philosophy. Hitler was a protege of Dietrich Eckart who was the Nazi’s spiritual father (Hitler dedicates the first chapter of Mein Kamph to him).
The forming Nazi members had a spiritual connection to beliefs about Atlantis. Many were members of The Thule Society who believed the survivors of Atlantis had their DNA most concentrated in Germany.
And England for some reason.
Atlantis of course was the fictional Island mentioned in Plato’s works Timaeus and Critias as part of an allegory on the hubris of nations.
That it became warped into Nazi cosmology as a justification for horror seems utterly unhinged.
Part of the drive was to delegitimise Science, the way Qanon MAGA anti-vaxxers did recently in America.
MAGA has become a movement of conspiracy and utterly demented reality perspectives where Atlantis probably actually features somewhere.
The Nazi conviction in the Occult alongside their Atlantis fantasies are similar to the depth of belief the Evangelical Vote in America feel. They believe that actively antagonising conflict in Israel will speed up the Rapture and Armageddon as prophesied in the Book of Revelations, so both movements, MAGA and the Nazis are inspired by occultist conspiracy theories.
White Supremacy:
Part of the core belief of the Nazi’s were that these Atlantans were racially superior, Aryan, and that these genes rested with the Germanic People, MAGAs appeal draws heavily from white supremacy and white fragility as well.
The way race will be weaponised in this election highlights how similar the drives are.
The similarities behind Hitler and Trump:
There are many cultural red flags in terms of genuine comparisons with the rise of Hitler and Trump.
Use of Resentment as a Political weapon: Trump understands resentment as well as Hitler did and Trump manipulates it in the same way.
Failed Putsch: Both attempted take overs by violence and both were defeated.
Using Court Trial as propaganda tool: While in jail for the Beerhall putsch, Hitler realised he could use the Court process as a propaganda tool and he was on the front pages of German Newspapers with all his anti-immigrant and anti-Semetic attack lines, in the exact same way Trump has also used those Court cases.
Realising violent over throw can’t work: While in prison, Hitler realised he couldn’t over throw a Democracy by violence, but that you had to get elected. Trump learnt the same lesson
Big Lie and the Other: Both Hitler and Trump use ‘Big Lie’ mind control tactics, Hitler described it, Trump used it with his Election theft claim.
Aquaman + Captain America + Trump as a Cartoonish Criminal President Supervillain:
Which brings me back to Captain America, Nazi Occultism and Aquaman…
The Dark Link Between the Nazis and the Legend of Atlantis
Not everyone in the Nazi Party hierarchy believed in Atlantis, astrology, ice giants or primeval gods. It’s unlikely that Hitler himself was a believer, and attempts to promote such narratives often encountered resistance within the party. However, the desire to ground race theory and occultism by means of scientific methods, to weld the supernatural to the unnatural and thereby forge a new superman, was not limited to a platonic craving for the sublime and with esoteric journeys to jungles and deserts, which today stir more ridicule than fear. Documents submitted in the Nuremberg Trials speak about the bodies of Jews that were slated to be added to the Ahnanerbe’s anthropological collection of skeletons in Strasbourg, and cite a telex sent by Wolfram Sievers asking his superiors what should be done with them in light of the Allies’ advance. (“The collection can be stripped of the flesh and thereby rendered unidentifiable,” he stated. “This, however, would mean that at least part of the whole work had been done for nothing… since it would be impossible to make plaster casts afterward. The skeleton collection as such is inconspicuous.”)
The medical “experiments” performed by the think tank’s staff to ground their theories were not a marginal effort of the war, but one of the most appalling methods for justifying it. The subordination both of magic to the service of science, and mythology to the authority of ideology, played a part in what historian Uriel Tal, in his 2004 book of essays, “Religion, Politics and Ideology in the Third Reich,” calls “political theology,” which rests on the “total revaluation of all values; the apocalyptic condition according to which catastrophe must precede redemption; the struggle between the forces of light and those of darkness.”
But the Nazis did not heed Plato’s ancient warning. The 1,000-year Reich they wished to forge sank, like a mythical island, in the face of the heirs of the ancient democracy of Athens, and their military and technological might was no match for the wrath of the gods embodied by the Allies.
Even as the latter pounded the Nazis at sea, in the air and on land, another force sought to strike them on paper: Aquaman. On a mission from his co-creator, Mort Weisinger, the son of Jewish immigrants from Austria, the superhero made his debut in 1941, rescuing refugees from a German submarine attack, in More Fun Comics #73.
He wasn’t the only superhero to be mobilized for battle by a Jewish artist, of course. Fighting shoulder to shoulder with Aquaman were the super-types who were brought to life by those whom the Nazis classified as subhuman: Superman (created by Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster), Captain America (by Jacob Kurtzberg, aka Jack Kirby; Hymie, aka Joe, Simon, and Stanley Martin Lieber, aka Stan Lee) and others. The conquest of Atlantis by Nazi occultists resounds with another warning in addition to the one embedded in hubris: the danger of subjugating myth to justify ethos, of coercing the imagination. If we ever forget that, our fate, too, will be to sink like a stone in mighty waters.
…the Cartoonish manner in which Trump embodies a Criminal President Supervillain is part of his appeal.
Trump is a sexist racist homophobic joke made amongst friends who won’t be offended and most importantly won’t snitch on you.
This gallows humour will be used to gloss over the Militarisation of ICE, the massive detention camps and the numerous acts of violence Trump will keep pushing until the laughs are cold and empty.
If Trump wins in November we inch towards an American Midnight with all the charm of the Handmaid’s Tale on a 7 day meth bender.
We are so fucked if Trump wins.
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He was Hitler in his first term…. just a slow learner.
This is just panic. Trump is a big orange blow hard.
Nothing much will change. The American debt is the real issue- that will take out western democracies once it cannot be serviced. Will make the great depression seem like a picnic.
Democracy can elect fascists. Just like it can elect liberals, libertarians and communists . Hopefully Trump will be too lazy and too addicted to weekend golf a Mar del Lago to go full on Hitler when he is elected. General Kelly is worried that Trump with force the army to re enlist him so that he can be court martialed. The illegal immigrants,whom Vance numbered at 25,000,000 will be used as the Jews were by Hitler.
In the end it will make no difference to us
Amerika is a land of fuckin assholes and blue or red they fuck us over at their whim.
Oh grow up. The Democrats and their supporters are just embarassing themselves now.
Genocide Joe and Killer Kamala are the ones funding the destruction of Gaza, not Trump.
What are the red wave poles??
The most racist US president in history. A man who repeatedly smears black men as criminals and calls for their execution, and who actively condones police violence and brutality.
A man who wants to impose biblical law at gunpoint, and wishes to outlaw abortion, homosexuality, birth control, transgenderism, and sex outside of marriage.
A man who wants to arrest teachers for teaching evolution, or about homosexuality.
And killer Kamala and genocide Joe are currently funding the deaths of children in Gaza. Trump isn’t.
Millsy, you post your opinion as fact. Not sure whether you finished high school but the words opinion and fact have different meanings.
“Millsy, you post your opinion as fact. ”
I thought that was pretty normal here
it bloody is, the likes of Bob the fart and the rest of the trolls struggle to write more than a sentence.
Whereas I regularly include links.
When I post links, I am often edited out.
Millsy is an egregious example.
Marmalade Mussolini is going to be creamed by Harris.
Following that it’s a few days or weeks to court time and sentencing for election fraud/(hush money) convictions.
Then the Lord of the Lies will have pay up for the Business and tax fraud case against his business empire.
Then it’ll be into court again to face Jack Smith on insurrection charges, perhaps time sharing those court appearances with appearing for the Georgia State racketeering and election fraud charges he faces.
And at some future date, after Aileen Canon is removed from the case, to face Smith yet again on the theft of classified documents.
I’m looking forward to seeing him appear for repeat appearances in the courtroom box, particularly after he’s spent a few months in cells without access to wall mirrors, hairspray and facial spray tans.
He’s going to be in a world of pain – and is deserving of every second of it.
I think fascism can be understood better by looking at it as a progression, rather than individual figure heads.
The failure of the Weimar Republic to enact the necessary social reforms to alleviate the suffering of the German people brought about by the global economic crisis of the Great Depression. Would have dampened support for the Nazis. Same for the refusal of the Obama and Biden administrations to soften the blows to the American people brought about by the GFC and global pandemic.
“Cometh the hour, cometh the man”
We can see the same process at work here.
A number of commenters here have struggled to understand a weirdo like David Seymour.
Understand a weirdo like Chippy, and his captain’s call not to tax the rich, explains a weirdo like Seymour.
Instead of letting the banksters fail, Obama bailed them out, with money that could have been used to support the victims of the banking failure. At the same time Obama, instead of funding social programs to alleviate inequality, funded a hugely expensive escalation of the US led war in Afghanistan. (a war Trump called an end to, as a waste of money, giving the promised ‘peace dividend’ to the rich in tax cuts).
Biden has followed down the same path as Obama, by funding a genocide in Gaza. Many have made the judgement that Trump will be even worse than Biden in helping Israel wage their genocide against the Palestinians in Gaza. But not if Biden and Harris end the genocide in Gaza before Trump takes office. (Something they have refused to do).
The failure of liberal or even progressive governments to fulfill their supporters expectations is the handmaiden of fascism.
Going to be very interesting reading what all the rightie/maga anti Harris, anti Labour, anti Ardern, anti reality hate trolls here have to say after Trump goes down bigley, very bigley in November.
For the most part they are not voting, so no one cares what they think.
So just shit stirring trolls then eh!
Irrelevant opinions perhaps.
Trump is a hypocrite and is only after the power to stay out of jail, by being in the position to be able to fire those wanting to put him in jail.
He’s a hypocrite because he has previously donated generously to the Democrats when it suited him.
He’s a hypocrite because he’s backtracking on abortion to be less toxic to women, after spending his first term stacking the Supreme Court with conservative judges so they could overturn Rowe v Wade.
He’s a hypocrite because he wants to be tough on crime saying he would quickly stop serious crime in the US, when he’s actually a convicted felon, who tried to insight a coup d’état, and then did nothing about it for hours while it all unfolded and people died.
He’s a hypocrite because he wants to be tough on immigrants, but he lobbied Republicans not to support a joint bill toughening immigration, because he wanted to keep it an issue. His actions helped maintain immigration through the southern border, so he could campaign against immigration through the southern border and appeal to prejudice, hence “they are eating the dogs, in Springfield…”.
Trump Song – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALGkQq3RJ7k
Trump Coup – https://www.tvnz.co.nz/shows/trumps-heist-the-president-who-wouldnt-lose
Why anyone would vote for, or support a diaper wearing, doggy cushion seater, dementia ridden cheat and bankrupt idiot who can’t speak a complete literate sentence, is beyond me.
Given his dietary habits, I seriously doubt he’ll live to see in the coming election. Either a stroke will wipe out what little memory he has, or a massive infarct will see him off.
Any idiot who supports him was last in line when God was handing out brains and intelligence.
Thankfully, in the six battleground states, Daipher Don Dementia Loser is between six and twelve points behind.
That means USA gets its first female president.
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