Can the NZ Left win back male voters?

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Gender continues to be the defining political chasm as woke dogma and Incel paranoia fuelled by social media outrage olympics and hate algorithms generate an Identity Politics culture war…

1 big thing: Generation-defining split 

A flood of data reveals a little-discussed, future-defining trend: Men and women are going separate ways.

    • The split is clear in politics, religion, education and the labor market, Axios’ Erica Pandey reports.

Why it matters: For the next generation, gender is becoming the biggest predictor of how you think, act and vote.

“There’s a much broader story here,” says Daniel Cox, director of the Survey Center on American Life. “Even after all the votes are tallied and we’ve moved on from the 2024 election, we’re not going to have resolved any of the cultural and relational tension between young men and young women.”

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    • You see it in politics: Women are turning left. Men are turning right.
    • You see it in religion: For the first time ever recorded in the U.S., young men are more religious than young women.
    • You see it in education: There are 2.4 million more women on U.S. college campuses than men, the American Institute for Boys and Men (AIBM) notes. Those degrees are often resulting in higher-wage jobs for women in big cities.
    • You see it in the labor market: Wages and labor force participation have increased since the 1980s for college-educated men and women, and for working-class women. But they have stagnated for working-class men, who are also now significantly less likely to be employed than four decades ago, according to AIBM’s analysis.
    • You see it in visions for the future: Men are more likely than women to want marriage and kids, according to Pew Research Center.

🔮 What we’re watching: The polarization is even stronger among adults under 25, Cox notes. Social media content and algorithms may be one key reason.

    • Men are constantly fed social media content that’s negative toward women, and vice versa. Videos breaking down bad dates from the perspective of either the man or the woman are a viral example of that trend.
    • Gen Z-ers are 15 points more likely than other generations to say social media has negatively impacted their outlook on men, and 10 points more likely to say so for women, Morning Consult finds.

The bottom line: “We live in a very individualistic culture, and, for a lot of people, the primary relationship they have is with a partner or a spouse,” says Cox. For heterosexual couples, this polarization is making finding a partner trickier.

    • “This has tremendous implications for how men and women relate to one another in the dating space.”

Diving into the recent Roy Morgan polling numbers the issues are stark for the Left, the simple truth is that Identity Politics has driven men away from us as a movement…

On an overall basis, men heavily favour the National/ ACT/ NZ First coalition government on 56%, well ahead of the opposition Labour/ Greens/ Maori Party on only 38% – a gap of 18% points.

In contrast, a high plurality of women are behind the opposition Labour/ Greens/ Maori on 49.5% – ahead of the governing National/ ACT/ NZ First on 44.5% – a gap of 5% points.

Support for the governing coalition is strongest for older men. For men aged 50+ there are a massive 63.5% supporting National/ ACT/ NZ First almost double the 34.5% supporting the Labour/ Greens/ Maori Party. Support for the governing parties; National (38.5%) and ACT (17%) is stronger amongst this demographic than any other age or gender group analysed.

For younger men aged 18-49 there is an edge for the governing coalition with 47.5% supporting National/ ACT/ NZ First compared to 42% that support the Opposition Labour/ Greens/ Maori – a gap of 5.5% points.

The Holy Trinity of Woke Dogma are:

  • ALL White people are irredeemable racists.
  • B-E-L-I-E-V-E ALL Women that ALL Men are rapists
  • Anyone supporting Free Speech is a uniform wearing Nazi who hates the Trans Community.

Pure Temple Politics demands you accept that Woke Dogma before you can join, using that Identity Filter drives male voters away from the movement.

This is a point I’ve been making for what, 5 years now?

Identity Politics is most dangerous when poor white people start seeing themselves as an identity.

Tell men they are the problem long enough and they become the problem.

Class binds us in solidarity, its pronouns are Us/We.

Middle Class activists posing for the ‘gram using hashtag politics, their pronouns are I/Me.

Alienating male voters is now accepted by actual students of politics and culture as a main problem for the Left.

Don’t believe me?

Here’s some of that evil Patriarchal Right Wing Rag, The Guardian for you..

Young men in the US used to lean left. Could they now hand Trump the presidency? | US elections 2024 | The Guardian

The ex-president is courting a demographic drifting away from the Democrats. What’s driving the widening gender gap among young people?

…young Men are suffering more mental health issues, education problems and self harm driven by a system that alienates them and then lectures them on privilege creating a deep resentment because identity is the only thing that matters now..

Richard Reeves – whose 2022 book, Of Boys and Men, has become a foundational text on what has gone wrong for young men in the country – is damning of framing that puts young men’s rightward turn in terms of UFC fights and incels, when he believes it’s about deep-seated inequalities of outcome in education, mental health and employment.

“I want to talk about why only 60% of Black boys graduate high school on time in Michigan, or the fact that the share of male teachers has gone from 33% to 23%. Or that we’ve lost more than half the men who work in social work and psychology,” he says. “I’d want to talk about that rather than, for example, whether the Barbie movie was unfair on Ken.”

He says people are misinterpreting the polling. “It’s not enthusiasm for the reactionary right, it’s a sense of being taken for granted by the left. There are more young men shrugging their shoulders than raising their fists.”

It’s true that there is now a growing gender gap in education; for every 100 bachelor’s degrees awarded to women, 74 are awarded to men. In many US cities, young women are earning more than young men and moving out of parents’ homes earlier than them.

Reeves is careful to say that improving conditions for men and boys should not mean slowing down similar efforts for women and girls. But he says that government institutions do have a tendency to purposefully avoid naming the problems young men face. Suicide is one of the clearest areas in which there is a huge gender divide – there’s a fourfold gender gap in rates for young people – and yet, says Reeves, “the CDC website breaks down suicide rates by every demographic except gender. Why? Why don’t the Democrats have a taskforce on male suicide when there are 40,000 deaths a year?”

He gives other compelling examples of how Democrats have failed to signpost their achievements to young men. Biden’s infrastructure bill – his key piece of legislative success – was a huge jobs creator for working-class men, “but the administration tied itself in knots not to say so”. Instead, it focused on the million women in construction initiative to ensure women got some of the funding. “That’s amazing. Now, er, where’s the million men into teaching initiative? … There are so many initiatives for women in Stem; why not one for men in teaching? Who is going to attack that?”

On the Democrats’ own website is a page titled “who we serve” that lists 14 different groups. Men are not among them.

…the article points out that young men are turning Right because they’ve been pushed out of the Left because Identity Politics states the worst human being in the world is a white male who must apologise every 90 minutes for having a Penis, and I’m talking the awful heteronormative penis, not the beautiful amazing non-binary penis so popular in Wellington these days.

The Middle Class Woke Activism may have not been the great tactic so many on the NZ Left thought it was.

The modern Woke Left are great at organising ‘Free-The-Nipple’ protests for vegan cycling mommy bloggers, not so good at deconstructing the Neoliberal Economic Hegemonic structure.

No poor family is sitting around the kitchen table cancelling one another for mis-using pronouns.

If the Left wants to win, it needs to win back male voters.

The true demarcation of power in a Capitalist Democracy is the 1% richest plus their 9% enablers vs the 90% rest of us.

Once you understand power in that framework, we can never lose an election!

 

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49 COMMENTS

  1. I’ve often thought that the politics of the left was biased toward emotion and feelings whereas the political thinking in the centre ( there is no right wing in today’s politics) was more to do with rational analysis.
    This is why youth tends towards the left

  2. Short answer is no because there are too many of them that are red necks living on stolen land and they have no real identity other than being desendants of land thieves.Where as Maori can trace their heritage back to the first arrivals .

      • just the dishonest ones who can’t discern between a reason and a belief. You just have to read any commentary on social media to affirm Gordons reasoning.

        I went back to my British homeland and it was all burned out cars and boarded up windows. A lovely old distillery though. Nice place to visit, wouldn’t want to live there. Enjoy my polynesian paradise too much – pity about the polynesians though eh? How dare they demand the place doesn’t turn into another Incorporated shithole.

  3. My grandsons mates actually told me boomer men had it good and we are to blame for letting feminists walk all over men. Said as banter but it’s an insight to the feelings of 20 year old guys.

    • lol – teenage boys don’t have a very developed pre-frontal cortex and are very suggestable. They’ve probably been listening to misanthropes like Andrew Tate. I bet they love Trump too right? They feel powerless and it’s always someone else’s fault. Our youth have a very distorted view of the world and most of it comes from social media, the epitome of shallow minded gratuitousness.

  4. Waiting for the NZ Reasonable Party. Neither Left or Right, Center, Up, Down or anything else, and sadly this would not be populated by any of the current crop. There are too many basic problems that need fixing that ideology only makes worse. Fix the basic problem, rebalance for natural development, and leave it alone for a bit. Is it really that difficult? In a climate of total greed it’s demonstrably near impossible. National: pushing for absolute control by eliminating the power of the Treaty. Labour: pushing for absolute control by trying to steal sovereignty from maori via social/cultural initiatives. Absolute control, how delightfully “democratic”! And in the middle? The farmers who just want to be able to do whatever is most profitable, at any cost.
    Sometimes people say that the economy isn’t like a family budget, but our governments have a trend to govern as if NZ is a dysfunctional family. There is the Golden Child/ren, the Scapegoat/s and Blacksheep, the Narcissist parent, the playing of favourites and gas lighting, the abuse and blame games. Gimme a freekin break already. Boring. Old. News. How do people find these hobbyist policies interesting enough to vote for? Till reasonable turns up (not to be confused with ‘reason’) I’ll be voting for whatever obscure party looks harmless… NZ Knitting… Pavlova Research Alliance… Tyre Recycling for Good Party, anything will do that keeps alive the ideal of democracy via voting without imagining any of our mainstream FPP masquerading as MMP parties have any interest in democracy. Now if you’ll excuse me, I have a brick wall to shout at.

  5. Yes, Joseph and why do some of our Pakeha men do that? and why do so many of them call 2ZB talking a load of bollocks. As for our older Pakeha men they grew up in patriarchal societies so what do you expect. They come from a generation where women belonged to them (their property) and women were expected to be subservient, cook the tea, look after the kids, get into that kitchen and rattle those pots and pans mentality.
    Times have changed now women have to work for families to survive.

  6. Labour’s coalition partners hate males. So unless Labour appeals to the ‘ working man’ & govern by themselves, then no chance.

  7. In NZ politics men may be turning right; there are less factories and group male jobs to enable solidarity of workers to the left as happened previously. Women may think they are turning left, but it seems to me that their idea of ‘left’ doesn’t include concern for large numbers of their own gender, with betterment and increasing respect for all women. The concern shows itself rather in a sensitivity to female vulnerabilities in life that are axiomatic.

    The knowledge of life’s problems that can arise for women and girls, does not seem to extend out to an understanding of the difficulties and unfairness that men can face. Women’s arousal as to wrongs against them personally or arising against women in distant countries seem to come more from irascible middle-class women in self-interest, such as the Greens campaign against coarse language, as ‘cunt’, not a wish to better women’s lot.

    It could have been expected that well-educated and wise women would have pressed for recognition of both their maternal role and collective tendencies. Instead they are pushed to paid work of lesser importance whether they are solo parents, or in partnerships and marriage, through low wages requiring two incomes.

    Young women especially, are now observed to be turning in circles taking over-sentimental, or casuistic attitudes that require thought, discussion, and argument not black or white  absolutes with women being in a favoured position.

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