The Daily Blog Open Mic – 18th August 2024

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9 COMMENTS

    • At least they are trying even if they are trying it on. We don’t want to fall behind the quickstep dance of big overseas corpse. Oops!
      About Us | New Zealand Steel
      New Zealand Steel
      https://www.nzsteel.co.nz › … Whakamāoritia tēnei whārangi
      We are New Zealand’s sole producer of flat rolled steel products, which are central to the building, construction, manufacturing and agricultural industries.
      and
      Who is NZ Steel owned by?
      New Zealand Steel is part of the BlueScope Group, a strong and successful global company employing over 16,000 people within more than 100 facilities in 17 countries.
      Where in the World – New Zealand Steel
      https://www.nzsteel.co.nz › where-in-the-world
      and
      Does NZ make its own steel?
      Over 90% of New Zealand’s steel requirements are produced at Glenbrook, while the remaining volume is produced by Pacific Steel, a steel recycling facility in Ōtāhuhu, Auckland. The mill is served by the Mission Bush Branch railway line, which was formerly a branch line to Waiuku.
      New Zealand Steel – Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › New_Zealand_Steel
      and
      Why did we give $140m to a shady Australian corporate …
      The Spinoff
      https://thespinoff.co.nz › … Whakamāoritia tēnei whārangi
      23 Mei 2023 — Despite the name, NZ Steel is not in fact a New Zealand company – it’s an asset owned by BlueScope, a highly profitable, publicly listed …

      Well we are still making a lot of steel here. Gives some points.

      • Yes, despite the name, NZ Steel is not a New Zealand company.

        And some say we require more foreign investment.

        It’s bad enough we have to shield exporters from paying for their carbon emissions, let alone, allowing them to keep any surplus.

        Where is the responsibility to the public interest in allowing that?

        The estimated total value of these industrial allocations over the last decade is said to have cost us almost $2 billion

        Compounding the monetary cost is the millions of tonnes of credits given away under the scheme have compromised the Government’s carbon auction. Due to the surplus lowering the carbon cost on the secondary market

        Another reason why we should have opted for a carbon tax opposed to the uncertainty of the ETS

        • Political parties and goblin administrators (or should it be gobblin’?) say ‘Uncertainty good’ as it allows ‘flexibility’ in behaviours and statements and expectations.

          • When it comes to business expenses, you’ll find most would prefer certainty.

            Like any market, the ETS is open to manipulation and speculation, adding to price uncertainty.

  1. https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL2408/S00033/a-personal-tax-credit-ptc-of-150-for-new-zealand.htm – from Keith Rankin
    This sounds good. Combine it with a drop in GST to 12.5% – the 2.5% to go back to the locality where it was earned and 10% into where gummint shoves money – brown paper bags are okay because they are recyclable. We would get a fillip and that would have a good effect wherever it ended up. Please sir just one or two fillips and I can go away and grow them into loaves and fishes for largesse – S!

    https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL2408/S00033/a-personal-tax-credit-ptc-of-150-for-new-zealand.htm
    Dynamic benefits, which fit near-right philosophies of self-reliance and basic democratic rights
    The general idea is that of a hand-up rather than a handout. Though basic democratic rights go beyond that concept of charity; the unconditional $150 (which should be subject to CPI indexation) would be conceived as a democratic right in the same sense as the ‘right to vote’.

    The dynamic benefits of this proposal are the ‘behavioural changes’; in particular the substantial reductions of the ‘moral hazards’ inherent in any regime of targeted income-support.
    Because the $150 weekly PTC would be received an unconditional right, there would be only minimal bureaucracy required to administer it; that would be a substantial cost saving.
    The Department of Mum and Dad could be sure that they would receive at least $150 per week in ‘board’ money for each adult child supported in part or in full by Mum and/or Dad. This would take pressure off Mums and Dads with bougie (ie ‘entitled’) adult children.

    Many people hate being clients of MSD. They would prefer to be reliant on their own efforts, and on their private and civil society networks. Under the PTC policy regime, new applicants for income support would decline substantially, with remaining applicants for benefit support being the most needy persons and families.
    Personal tax credits could be paid – especially for the cases of adult children living ‘at home’ – directly to accommodation providers (eg Mum or Dad) as contributions to the recipients’ board or rent.

    The key point is that newly unemployed persons would retain their weekly entitlements of $150 per week, enough to tide many of them over without having to become beneficiaries. And people who are present beneficiaries would be able to ‘dip their toes’ into the part-time labour force without losing all their present support; targeted support that today incentivises them to continue as beneficiaries. The PTC is an ‘enabling’ rather than a ‘disabling’ form of benefit…

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