There are two foundation stones shared between the NZ First Antivaxxers and ACT Treaty haters, the first is revenge.
Both NZ First Antivaxxers and ACT Treaty haters want revenge, revenge for being called unhinged ferals and banjo twanging cross burning redneck racists. Turns out when you advocate for race baiting nonsense and antivaxx garbage, you get very sensitive to getting called out.
This isn’t social policy getting implemented, it’s culture war revenge fantasies masquerading as democracy.
The second foundation stone shared between the NZ First Antivaxxers and ACT Treaty haters is Bloke Down Pub Politics where the reckons of the terminally bitter are somehow better than the Constitutional Experts and actual medical scientists.
This whole argument that “we the people didn’t have a say in Lord Cooke’s 1987 ruling” utterly misunderstands the nature of our democracy and is the intellectual equivalent of being a book burner demanding to run the library!
We have a representative democracy, not a participatory democracy.
We elect people and pay them well and resource them with the best advice to make the best decisions, if you don’t like them you kick them out of office once every 3 years.
Demanding a say in issues requiring deep wisdom, experience and technical skill like Constitutional Law and vaccines is like letting children design airplanes FFS!
You are all honestly smarter than Lord fucking Cooke and the vast majority of medical experts promoting the vaccine are you?
The arrogance of so many of you is just jaw dropping in its level of self delusion!
I want a fucking expert making decisions as important as this, not slack jawed yokels who are frightened every time there’s an eclipse that the moon dragon is eating the Sun God!
In fields that demand intelligence, why the Christ would you ask morons for their fucking opinion?
It’s like getting them in to have a say over brain surgery FFS!
Why would you listen to a fucking redneck on advice for brain surgery, or vaccine science, or building a legislative constructional framework that allows indigenous people to access promises made by a Treaty the conquering culture never wants to acknowledge?
This hate of the expert because apparently the experts advice hurts your fucking feelings is woke snowflake trigger level pathetic.
Right wing feelings from the Anitvaxx perma-grievance movement and the anti-Māori settler klan are what is deciding fucking policy here, not expert analysis!
Ill informed, stupid, ignorant, right wing ‘feelings’.
Fuck your feelings.
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The people we paid have been thrown out for a reason.
they are all still in the same building Jack WTFU
What Bomber seems to be getting at here is the question of why workers and small farmers are voting for bourgeois parties, instead of for people who represent their own interests.
They were herded in that direction by a highly propagandistic press corps, which is dominated by a tiny number of monopolistic press barons. The de facto system of censorship is so extreme that the most important stories are not covered at all. Serious broadsheet newspapers are reduced to a room-temperature I.Q.
The next problem is finding an actual alternative. The genuine social democrats that supported Jeremy Corbyn and Bernie Sanders were driven out of the Labour Party by the mega-donor-controlled Clintonites, organised around Chris Hipkins. The nationalists — who are at least interested in taking back some basic sovereignty, and returning to some kind of economic self sufficiency — are similarly suppressed by the political donors that control N.Z.F. and A.C.T.
The third problem is that any motivated person is trying to get the hell out of the country. The best people to lead some kind of mass movement are gone, and are never coming back.
Nah, resentment is good and should be weaponized. We, the 99%, have been getting shafted by the likes of John Key since the destruction of the last remaining remnants of New Zealand’s command economy in the 80s. It’s time to turn the clock back.
I heard Siouxsie Willies speak for the first time on a podcast I listen to the other day, and while I was pleasantly surprised by how she wasn’t really annoying like her writing, it’s not surprising that Bloomfield and Willies rubbed some people the wrong way. If Ardern had been serious about actually eliminating COVID in NZ (which she obviously wasn’t since people were allowed in from the American septic tank breeding ground during the ‘lockdowns’), there would have been relatable blokes involved in the messaging.
A diversity of tactics is good.
Heaven preserve us from people who have “done their own research.” AFAIK people who “do their own research” simply seek out sources that support their point of view. That’s a big excuse of the people on Trotters blog that he now lets spew their anti-vax bullshit.
“AFAIK people who “do their own research” simply seek out sources that support their point of view”
Ain’t that the truth!. They even get it “peer reviewed” by those of like mind or within their “bubble” (electronic or physical). ‘Evidence’ for the so-called research often comes from places like Quora which has now gone down the rabbit hole by resorting AI generated questions – which are often designed to stir the shit (such as over blowing the Khalistani movement).
And you can’t challenge them either for fear of hurting their feelings or getting a shouty boy reaction.
You’d be wasting your time.
“We have a representative democracy, not a participatory democracy.”
Yeah, well, we are both being out represented (by, big money and NGO interests, not to mention US govt interests) and out participated, whom do our pollies listen to more, the interests of their voters or the aforementioned interests? Yeah, we get to vote them in/out every three years but in and out of what – the same bloody captured political structure, that’s what! As such, nothing changes for the better for most of us, just more tinkering around the edges that helps alleviate the consequences of the special interest polices they invoke. More of the same, that’s why neoliberal economic policy still soldiers on.
You would think that neoliberalism would have wised us up by now, but no, we still believe we have a functioning democracy. As if….
You shouldn’t be surprised that NZ at large hates experts – we’ve had self-styled economic experts running the show for decades now, and their predictions have proven less reliable than chance – we’d get better outcomes by replacing them with a flipped coin.
The antivaxxer crap comes from overseas however – just another blight wished on the world by the benignant Mr P’s disinformation project, and amplified by self-serving wankers like Counterspin and Winston.
Two things here: first is the antivaxxer people forget that 97% of NZ opted for the vaccine. They are a teeny tiny minority of less than 3% who got media coverage out of all proportion to their numbers. Nobody, but nobody, had the courage to call them out, other than Martyn and a few on this blog. Christ, there should have been a converted and coordinated campaign to shut those pricks down. It didn’t happen, so their poison helped dump the best government we’ve had in the last 40 years.
Second, for 92% of NZ, the Treaty is a settled issue. We all know the intent of it, the history of its betrayal and the subsequent theft. We all know the Waitangi Tribunal is attempting to peacefully right those wrongs. Deep down Kiwis accept that necessity and have done for two generations. The redneck bullshit that ACT latched onto and stirred up, with, yet again, our piss poor media connivance, created an issue where there really wasn’t one before. And why? Because we fucking let them. Instead of a concerted and coordinated rebuttal, there was just a few who spoke up. When things finally did get a bit organised, it was too little, too late. So the sheeple, dumb as they are, voted the way the media told them to. As for the “ordinary man in the pub”, that figment hasn’t existed except in nostalgia, for three decades. That person today, actually resides in a bank owned house having boozy BBQs, only drained to vent after his 10th beer. Even then, it’s out of hearing of “she who must be obeyed”. Mr Average these days is hanging onto his job like grim death cos he knows if he even appears to buck the consensus, he and his family are dog tucker. So Mr Average votes as TVNZ tells/suggests he doesn’t, through their rigged polls. Until we wake the sheeple up, and better educate him as to the reality of the way he’s being manipulated, things ain’t gonna change. Maybe his kids will – I hope so.
It takes courage to take on the powerful. It does not take courage to take on the powerless. You’re a shepherd, mate, helping lead the sheeple up the garden path.
Fuck me ,those pub experts have invaded this column today .What a load of shit .Almost as bad as I encounted on MSN during the pandemic .Might be time to turn the TV AND LAPTOP OFF IF THATS THE BEST YOU ALL CAN CONTRIBUTE
I am no lawyer, but from what I understand, Lord Cooke’s ruling essentially required the return of surplus Crown land to iwi. One would see that as quite a reasonable ruling.
It’s the wisdom of crowds. There are whole books celebrating it. Go you good thing you.
The banjo is an African American instrument, ask Rhiannon Giddens.
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