David Seymour has let slip his belief that he thinks he is negotiating a Coalition Government.
Whether that’s what Winston wants is moot but seeing as ACT and NZF are both tag teaming Luxon on some race knee-jerk virtue signal, it’s fair to say a Coalition Government is on the cards for a couple of reasons:
The first is that David and Winston need to both be in Government and in Cabinet so they are both bound by Cabinet Responsibility and ties the fate of the other to the other.
This Government is a scorpion, sitting on a fox’s face, riding in the open jaws of a great white shark.
ACT and NZF are negotiating a Mutually Assured Destruction agreement to hold the peace for 3 years.
How aspirational.
The second reason a coalition Government is the likely outcome is because it has become glaringly apparent that Luxon is utterly out of his depth and the only reason both Winston and David want to forge a Government is to exploit this hapless muppet beyond their wildest dreams!
What will turn ACT against NZF or NZF against ACT is if either one of them exploits Luxon beyond what they are exploiting him.
If they can find a happy medium where they are both exploiting Luxon in equal measure, these circling Black Holes of self interest can maintain a political orbit.
If they suspect the other is getting something they aren’t however, then all paths lead to Armageddon.
The naked venality we are watching is the dance of those who master power for their own ends.
This is going to be a dreadful fucking Government.
A Coalition of Crows.
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All good things come to those who wait. Deep breaths. . . .
and yet still better than Labour.
Based on what Jack? Sounds like the sort of dip shit comment that leads to us having such mediocre governments. Tribal crap.
Better hasn’t been associated with a New Zealand government for decades.
A tad premature there jack
Luxon seems to be inexperienced, inept and out of his depth. But he is the Leader, the CEO, the boss of the National team. Where are the experienced, wise and clever MPs who will form the bulk of this Coalition cabinet. Where are the steady hands and the brilliant strategists who will run the PMs office. Why aren’t they helping their guy do a better job?
Peter. John, Bill and Steven were never brilliant strategists. With the family silver gone, more sovereignty gone, health service foundations gone, and educational competency gone, the blind are leading the blind.
Well Peter, the advisors are probably out trying to sell houses and dodge paying any form of tax. They assumed when they handed over millions to National that things would take care of themselves.
Gerry wants to hold hands with Canada & Australia before making any decisions regarding the genocide in Gaza so I presume that other National MPs are seeking the advice of their financial masters (donors) as to what they should think.
Peter, they see Luxon as Trump like. Better to say nothing and keep their jobs or better still say nothing and be considered stupid than comment and be proven so.
Coalition negotiations expose the hollowness of New Zealand “democracy”. Under MMP individual electors vote for a party and with it a set of policies. What they get is quite different to what they thought they were voting for: a potpouri of policies and personalities, many of which may be anathema to them.
Yet they have to face the uncomfortable truth that their own vote helped to create the political mess that leaves them appalled. They have no recourse. Regardless of how they voted power is taken out of their hands (if it ever lay there) and given to party political hacks to do their worst.
In a genuine democracy (rather than the present monarchist colonial regime controlled by bureaucrats, vested interests and foreign powers) the people would be the ones managing “coalition negotiations” and the process would be seamless, fast, transparent, effective and most importantly it would reflect the genuine will of the people.
Those who chose to have an undemocratic system of government are in no position to complain that it has become dysfunctional. That goes with the territory.
So how are you going to get “the people”, all 5 million of them to agree on anything? While MMP has faults it is better than FPP where a usually minority government had absolute control for 3 years. Allowing MPs a bit more autonomy independent of the party system might be one way to get better laws passed although that would rely on them being elected on merit instead of financial or other interests.
Very simply, you have a system of continuous election and an open ballot which puts the voters in the driving seat and makes the politicians accountable to the people. Instead of horse trading among the politicians, the public can adjust their voting preferences to produce an outcome that reflects their own informed choices.
Totally agree with you Geoff. ‘Democracy’ demands that National and Labour negotiate a coalition (over 60% of the vote between them) – then we would see decisions made for the good of the whole country, not decisions made for particular sectional interests.
This is not democracy in action, this is extortion by minority parties. It is certainly not ‘proportional’ representation.
Exactly and whoever said that Labour and National received a mandate to form a coalition TOGETHER, hit the nail on the head. That’s what they were told to do by most voters.
BUT too many big egos and too many expectations from the right’s donors for that to happen.
Any other coalition falls well short of what we were led to believe MMP was all about.
Which proves that we are governed by outside forces and really don’t have much say because they refuse to see this gigantic elephant in a room full of crows.
p.s. Winston hasn’t got his knighthood yet, so unfinished business.
p.p.s. MP for Upper Harbour has already shown his true colours, as if we didn’t know. Sadly, most people were fooled and voted for another backward-looking dinosaur.
If NZ1st is opposed to something that the other two want it will probably be something to which the parties of the left are also opposed, otherwise National/ACT would not need Winston’s support. So it can’t really be “extortion by a minority”.
Why then do they need a coalition? Just get on a govern and let the full parliament decide; that would be a true democracy with proportional representation on all issues.
Well I guess National didn’t do well enough proportionally either. As you say, National and Labour should working together given the size of vote they have collectively.
Agree Den, watch Luxon take credit for falling rate of ram raids, which was already decreasing due to new wrap around interventions instigated by Labour Govt and Police. Shame the Media don’t focus on serious domestic violence. Instead off ramraids which gave the perpetrators the attention and notoriety they craved.
When funding is stopped for the wrap around interventions are stopped, the ram raids will start again. And no, none of the incoming pork chops will choose not to take credit for that.
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