Latest Roy Morgan is out:
National 31% (-2.5)
Labour 24% (-2)
Act 18% (+4)
Greens 12.5% (+3.5)
NZF 5.5% (+0.5)
TPM 4% (-2)
TOP 2% (-2)
ACT soar to 18% and the Left are being murdered because we are haemorrhaging male voters.
Turns out middle class woke dogma drives male voters into the arms of the right…
On an overall basis men are heavily in favour of a potential National/Act NZ coalition on 57.5% almost double Labour/Greens on 31%. This high support among men is the basis of the clear lead National/ Act NZ have overall. In contrast, support among women is evenly split between the governing Labour/Greens coalition on 41.5% and the potential National/Act NZ coalition on 41%.
A large majority of 66.5% of older men aged 50+ support a potential National/ Act NZ coalition government compared to under a quarter, 23.5%, who support the governing Labour/ Greens coalition.
There is a slightly closer result for younger men aged 18-49 with a clear plurality of 49% supporting a potential National/Act NZ coalition government compared to just over a third, 37.5%, who support the current governing Labour/ Greens coalition.
…what was that Marama?
…charming.
Tell men they are the problem long enough in an identity politics landscape, and they become the problem!
It’s funny. I pointed out how middle class identity politics buying into culture wars we couldn’t win would kill us as a movement by driving Male voters into the arms of the right, and lo and fucking behold I’m right!
Yet for pointing this out, I’m the arsehole!
We are seeing in this Roy Morgan Poll the cultural backlash to woke culture wars with male voters so alienated from the Left they are running into the arms of ACT.
We need to focus on the common ground between us, not pure temple echo chambers that cancel people for missing pronouns, mispronouncing Te Reo or suggesting female comedians aren’t funny.
It’s not over, Roy Morgan polls over a whole month so would have barely caught the Free Dental announcement, but we really need to have a wee chat with our Woke comrades about how to win friends and influence people.
Here’s a start, not all white people are irredeemable cross burning racists, not every male is a rapist and not everyone who defends free speech is a uniform wearing Nazi who hates the Trans community!
Good news though the Greens have found a freakishly new way of winning, by being slightly less gutless than Labour!
Winston is just holding on by his finger nails and the Maori Party continue to be set for the highest win in their political history.
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Keep up the good work Martyn, you can push it higher. 25%?
I’ve voted Labour/Green all my life and I can’t see how a left leaning voter would suddenly support the far right policies of Act.
Perhaps the don’t know cohort has changed. In 2020 a lot of centre/right voters may have stayed home. National were a shambles, Act were negative whiners and Jacinda was doing okay.
Now in 2023, National look strong, Act are pushing the popular policy buttons and they are ready to vote again.
Now it’s the centre/left voters, especially men, who have lost faith in Labour and been attacked by the Greens so its their turn to be the don’t know won’t vote group.
The voting percentage might be the same but different people will be voting in 2023
Because some people on the Left own firearms and are definitely not happy about being shafted by Labour. That’s my reason, Peter.
Well, Rat in a cage, you are a truly shallow little vermin, aren’t you?
I’m a single issue voter. Should I just smile & take a good shafting? Would you? I guess we’ll find out with the new Government, won’t we? You’ll love it!
Blokes who vote left suddenly find the left has left them. The working guy who built the left finds the left no longer wants to represent him, speak to him, care for him. Act points out they will defund the identity groups that want to screw him. Then when Act wins and let’s loose the robber barons and the housing foreign buyer club and ordinary kiwis will be doubly screwed.
I’d say that’s a pretty fair assessment.
Doesn’t make sense to me that the Greens’ “wokeness” is pushing people to ACT when this very same poll shows a 2.5% bump for them, it’s honestly a pretty classist notion imo to suggest that trans rights are so controversial that they will instantly make working people vote against their own self interest…
Labour’s failures & lack of Left wing values has pushed Left voters from Labour towards the Greens. Hence the boost.
Quit being a build ups.
Abandon hope, all ye who enter here…
…the Woke have awoke.
A pity that being woke is different from being awake and aware.
“ … the woke have awoke.” I doubt it. They may be maintaining a belated silence, but a leopard does not change its spots. They have shown us what they are, and heterosexual males are not alone in dumping them.
It’s not men leaving the Left, the Left despise the working class and so the working class are responding accordingly.
Paul Embery wrote about this a while ago and he was on the money then, check out his book “Despised: Why the Modern Left Loathes the Working Class”
Agreed they do and until they don’t they the left will lose big time. They have to have a reawakening.
I’m not male but I agree that there is huge anger from the working class towards Labour. Throwing us under the bus is finally bringing a backlash. It was going to happen eventually.
Claiming the anger is solely about ”wokeness” when that wokeness is mostly a distraction seeking to hide a complete absence substantive policies in a downturn that is drowning the poor as if it were an unwanted litter of kittens in some ghastly middle-class family – is just making this working-class voter angrier.
Well said.
100% Yeti
The left ceased to be a working-class movement about 25 years ago and the rusted-on old Labour voter has only just begun to realize. In so many ways ACT is the party of the today’s working class: The tradies, the truckies and the construction workers. All they want is to be left alone by Wellington and have more left in their pockets once the taxman has taken his share.
Short-sighted, selfish gits is what you seem to be saying.
Because everyone with a job should work extra hard to pay more of their income to those who contribute nothing to society, or worse, create nothing but havoc? To do otherwise is selfish?
Under National you will still work extra hard but for a much lesser income which will create nothing but havoc.
Very skilled, independent minded, but woefully ignorant and uneducated.
Just how the boss class likes them.
But Paul, in most of these cases they are their own boss. That’s the big difference. Yours is 1950’s thinking.
The major institutions of the ‘Left’ have been captured & ideologically-subverted by an arrogant, authoritarian cadre within the Professional-Managerial Class … doggedly pursuing self-interest despite all the ostentatious moral posturing … exhibiting obvious elitist & oligarchical tendencies … systematically scapegoating Labour’s traditional core constituency (low / low-middle income Pakeha) into a degraded second-class citizenship … in health, housing, increasing moves to disenfranchisement.
Middlemen have sneaked in to doing what they always have done.
It is now no longer inconceivable that ACT could out poll National such is their unappealing nature.
Less inconceivable that ACT could = Labour poll
I’m still picking Labour in the low 20’s, Greens are soaking up the woke voters from Labour who are pissed at Labour, but logically, one is as bad as the other, so quite why they’d go Green is a mystery.
I agree ACT are feasting on male voters alienated by Labour, the same voters who can’t suppress the urge to vomit in the polling booth if they voted National because National is National, in equal amounts to voting Labour Green but because of their wokeness.
A change is a coming. The real question is, will Labour ever come back from this credibility erasing 6 years? I’m seeing a very very damaged brand!
You vote Green because it’s still a Left wing party, while Labour carries the blame for the complete mess New Zealand is in because they “acted alone” with their unprecedented majority, so are sole responsible for the chaos.
Ahhh I wondered where Krautus Haus went too. Now known as Rat in a cage.
How did you guess? A real mastermind.
Well, the ACT train is looking more attractive, CHOO CHOO..
Modern trains are electric, you backward troglodite
You reap what you sow.
Seems peeps are prepared to swallow a few ACT dead policy rats, because that is surpassed by there angry annoyance at Labors failed term and debt ridden accounts for no results.
Ok, looks like my vote for Labour will be wasted, now as a renter I cannot vote for 7 houses Luxon, the greens hate me, ACT it is.
At 24% lots of MPs could get wiped out. Does Labour’s post election leader Mike Wood get cleaned out in Mt Roskill? How about Mcanulty?
Dance of the desperate time for Labour.
People wonder why NZ is so unproductive then repeatedly on this blog Luxon is denigrated for owning 7 properties .He could have just left the money in the bank and earnt a nice amount of interest and no one would know his wealth . Instead he has invested it into realm estate providing homes for renters or office space for businesses. It is the true tall poppy syndrome at work .
Owning 7 properties has a better tax break than lending money to a bank to lend to businesses to create real productive jobs.
Owning 7 properties shows he doesn’t have the creativity to become an entreprenuer and create a new business.
Owning 7 properties shows he gets a tax break for not investing in shares in productive NZ businesses.
Owing 7 properties shows he’s a speculator landlord getting a big tax break and when he becomes prime minister he is going to give himself an even bigger tax break.
Nothing productive to see here.
Real estate investment is not productive. It reaps from the poor, and harvests for the banks.
Thats why the NZX etc have been trying desperately to get kiwis into shares for decades.
As bad as its going to be the village needs to be destroyed in order to save it.
It’s the truth. A message sent loud and clear, you make promises, you honour them. Don’t operate hidden agendas. Don’t ever ever toy with one person one vote. Cut the ideological shit to the barest of bare minimums because the citizens of thus country are not lab rats for you to experiment on!
You’ve hit the nail on the head!
Labour have abandoned working people and have shown they have scant regard for the sanctity of democracy. Perhaps they’ve become arrogant or don’t yet understand what they’ve done.
NZFirst will pull back Act… once the drongo labour, TPM and greens realise their goose is cooked they’ll turn to Peters to pull back and muzzle the Twerking twit
Peters like a majority of NZ people does not want anythink to do with Labour this time around .When the party reforms with leaders to replace Little and Davis and others it may be worth looking at.
Given that this poll shows the ACT party is only 6 points behind the current governing and oldest political party in the country, I propose something that would have sounded absurd a few years ago but seems totally reasonable now:
We either stop referring to ACT as a minor party or start referring to Labour as a minor party. On polling with 6% in it, you can’t credibly have it both ways any longer. Given that 2002 National have been in a worse spot before and picked themselves up, I’d say the former of these options is most appropriate.
ACT is no longer a minor party, and it’s consistently polled as the third most popular political party for almost 3 years running.
Billy Braggs response to Anthony Oliver’s redneck protest song.
https://youtu.be/qGNFR7pgxDY?si=Ij41tPvwuaLZRmRE
Great interview he did outlining why he rewrote the song.
https://news.sky.com/video/oliver-anthony-billy-bragg-rewrites-rich-men-north-of-richmond-12945848#:~:text=Mr%20Bragg%20rewrote%20the%20hit,him%20to%20join%20a%20union.&text=Singer%2Dsongwriter%20Billy%20Bragg%20has,which%20made%20US%20chart%20history.
Any male lefty thinking of swinging on over to Seemore Cutts should give both a listen
One thing is for certain, the left male supporter has most certainly not left because they support the hideous female Nicola Willis and her horrid destructive policies.
It ain’t over til the fat electorate sings, come voting day.
My prediction: the left block win all! NACT in opposition another 3 years. 🙂
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