When youth offenders climbed onto the roof of an Oranga Tamariki detention centre and were coaxed down with KFC, the New Zealand ZB Lynch mob went into a feeding frenzy.
‘How dare we use KFC to coax these kids down’ screamed the New Zealand ZB Lynch mob who seemed to feel that snipes should have been used to bring the children down.
Turned out that the kids had escaped onto the rood because hilariously the staff were arranging Lord of the Flies fight clubs that they were then filming.
These staff get 2 weeks training…
Two men charged with organising fights between children inside Oranga Tamariki
Two Oranga Tamariki staff members have appeared in court, charged with organising fights at a secure youth facility.
The men, aged in their 20s, appeared before a registrar at the Manukau District Court on Wednesday, charged with ill-treating a child.
Court documents allege the men were involved in “facilitating fights” between boys.
Both men were remanded on bail with interim name suppression.
…mungo no understand?
Where’s the outrage New Zealand ZB Lynch mob? Where’s the rage that these kids were being forced to fight club each other and that it was this violence that drove them to the roof in protest?
The New Zealand ZB Lynch mob were so aroused by screaming at the use of KFC to coax frightened kids protesting at the violence staff were meting out on them, that no one cared why the kids were up there in the first place.
As a people, we have become a screaming skull of bitter rage that only wants to lash out without even understanding the context.
This is what we is now, this is the people we have become.
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I believe everyone is outraged just it can’t be debated due to individuals being before the courts and obtaining name suppression. Otherwise Hosking, HDPA & co would be getting stuck in.
The individuals should be named, shamed and get a custodial sentence as a deterrent for future behaviors such as this.
Moreover we should also be reviewing:
1). Who appointed them in the first place
2). Training, management and review of said individuals
3). OT’s monitoring and quality assurance around these operations
Let’s be honest 1,2 & 3 won’t happen due to a variety of reasons, some of which criticism of such will lead to inevitable cries of racism and lack of adherence to the ToW.
New Zimbabwe 101 folks
Thomas And yet various people want voting rights extended to minors who don’t know what they’re doing. National ‘s Jenny Shipley was keen to get them drinking alcohol too, and she pulled that off okay.
I bet you would send them down the mines though. And put them in prison for being gay.
Perpetrators should be named, shamed and get a custodial sentence as a deterrent for future behaviours such as this.
Okay, I’ll go first … Mike Hosking and Heather du Plessis-Allan.
Why would you have an Under 25yr old in charge of youth offenders in the first place? At best they would be fresh out of their qualification period or worse not qualified at all……
Its because people like you think that prisoners should be bashed, raped and shanked in our prisons by stronger prisoners because that is part of the punishment aspect of prison.
I believe everyone is outraged just it can’t be debated due to individuals being before the courts and obtaining name suppression. Otherwise Hosking, HDPA & co would be getting stuck in.
Seriously? Do you actually believe that?
The individuals should be named, shamed and get a custodial sentence as a deterrent for future behaviors such as this.
Agreed.
Moreover we should also be reviewing:
1). Who appointed them in the first place
They were hired, not appointed.
2). Training, management and review of said individuals
As has been pointed out in this blog and in articles in publications over the last few years, sounds like OT need more funding to do so.
3). OT’s monitoring and quality assurance around these operations
All you are suggesting is that more oversight and regulation is required, can you live with that?
Let’s be honest 1,2 & 3 won’t happen due to a variety of reasons, some of which criticism of such will lead to inevitable cries of racism and lack of adherence to the ToW.
There answered your questionable insights without reverting to calls of racism or ToW.
New Amerikkka 101.
Martyn, ‘This is what we is now, this is what we have become’ is sadly so true. Nats and Act scream ‘lock them up’, which totally disregards the fact of that’s a major reason as to how we got in this mess – years of ignoring the damage our current penal system is doing.
Now they will get them to fight for KFC.
Just a point, the “KFC on the roof” incident was at Christchurch and the “fight club” case is at Manukau.
Hardly likely to be related…….
I thought there was 2 KFC on the roof episodes?
@Bonnie – you are correct, there were two KFC episodes. The self-righteous, entitled far right wing types who expressed moral outrage at the young people on the roofs of their facilities and who would have preferred to have had high powered hoses turned on them, or dragged down roughly and placed back out of sight, and who mocked them for having KFC/Fast Food do not care one iota that these young people were exposed to rough physical abuse, which when you look at it, was no doubt a factor in their upbringing.
These moral outragers are the same fools who believe that if a person is charged with a crime, then they must be guilty; that Arthur Allan Thomas is still guilty if murder; that Teina Pora is still guilty of murder; that Allan Hall is still guilty of murder; and that these young people on the roofs of their respective facilities are guilty of whatever crimes they were alleged to have committed.
Correct and totally unrelated!
To be honest, a lot of people on here wont be happy unless young offenders are actively tortured in these institututions.
@ Millsy – yes, so right. You say it much more succinctly than I have just done in response to Bonnie.
The young offenders should have a personal training progran and learning how to do judo and then progress to karate would make them learn control and how to handle themselves when necessary.
Then they could run workshops in parliament and MPs should have regular sessions until they have got up to 2nd belt status. This is to ensure that they don’t run to fat and develop unhealthy conditions while they are sitting listening to select committees and griping from their favouraite constituents.
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