NZ First too extremist for Chippy – Labour rules out Winston + New Talbot Internal Poll

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Chris Hipkins rules out working with NZ First, Winston Peters

Labour leader Chris Hipkins has ruled out forming a coalition with NZ First and its leader Winston Peters after the election.

Hipkins used the announcement to unleash an attack on National’s Christopher Luxon — who hasn’t ruled out working with Peters — and to criticise NZ First, which he said had become “more interested in toilets than the issues that really matter.”

Additionally, he went on the attack against ACT’s “radical craziness” in a bid to attack a potential National-ACT-NZ First coalition.

Like ACTs extremism, NZ First’s extremism is too extreme.

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Having candidates who believe there are nano robots in the vaccine and that vaccinations were akin to the concentration camps and gulags is just too extreme for most Kiwis.

A lot of men who voted Labour in 2020 are angry at the lack of transformation, the Auckland lockdown and the antagonistic woke dogma and are protesting by voting ACT without knowing what ACT actually stand for.

As the extremism of ACT and NZ First are laid bare, more will turn away in disgust.

Chippy ruling out Winston is strategically and tactically smart. Winston ruling Labour out is one thing, Labour ruling Winston and his antivaxx, anti-treaty, trans obsessed cavalcade of political circus freaks is totally another.

It’s bold, it’s smart, it’s Labour finally starting to fight back.

The New Talbot Internal Poll is better for Labour.

Labour 32

National 34 

Greens 11

ACT 10

NZ First  6

Te Pāti Māori 4

The latest internal Talbot Poll shows the Labour Party death spiral being sold to the electorate isn’t as intense as it is.

The Māori Party vote continues to hold up.

NZ First have attracted enough AntiVaxxers who obsess over genders using the right toilet to gain above 5%, the Greens stay string because Labour are so weak and ACTs recent extremist candidates have spooked voters who were voting David because they were angry with Labour.

The election is far closer than it is being sold.

It ain’t over until the fat blogger sings.

 

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  1. If they’re not in a death spiral, then why is the pilot slumped over the controls, the tail is missing and the engines are on fire, while the rest of the crew is fighting over the parachutes?

  2. Centre right (including NZF) @ 50%. The dribbler who is our ambassador to Ireland must be getting a squeaky bum. Winston will want some utu.

    Both Te Reo and Seymour haven’t had their best couple of weeks and for social conservatives Peters is singing the best tune. At 6% more than just anti vaxxers supporting NZF.

    • I still can’t comprehend why the people who hate Jacinda and Labour the most would vote for the guy who put them in power…

  3. HAPPY BIRTHDAY CHRIS LUXON, WHO HAD HIS BIRTHDAY JULY 19th, TURNING THE BIG 53. I DECIDED TO WRITE A TONGUE IN CHEEK POEM, TO MARK HIS MILESTONE:

    What cunning secrets shall I keep, what agendas do I hide. What tasks will I undertake, what schemes can I devise…Will my tactics be meticulous, or will they be slap dash. A carefully executed chess move, or something rather rash…Do I sip on some dutch courage, or keep clear headed precision. Will I do it in the shadows, or broad daylight in full vision…Will it be a frenzied onslaught, or a stabbing lightning thrust. And if he shows resistance, then pacify him I must…Myriad times I’ve fantasized, about his grizzly end. With each blunder, gaffe, and backfire, he’s driving me round the bend…

    In the footsteps of Cassius and Caesar, I tread softly contemplating. “Ista quidem vis est”, my destiny is awaiting…Will it happen at close quarters, with a Tanto or Katana. Or should I go for more exotic, like a damascus Tsubagatana…Or maybe try old school, with my trusty combat bowie. Or initiate at close range, with Patterson trocur, or Gil Hibben throwy…Perhaps a poison tip Sykes dagger, or perhaps au naturel. Hidden in my pants suit, or in newspaper rolled up well…Jagged and blunt and rusty, or is razor sharp the best. Buffed to a brilliant shine, and oiled to maintain it’s zest…

    Desperate times need desperate measures, when I’ll savagely betray his trust. From bottomfeeders to business leaders, will go along with my bloodlust…His first mistake was having faith in me, a soulmate he thought he’d found. But when he’s least expecting it, I’ll slay him to the ground …With his net favourability polling below zero, he can’t go bumbling on. There’s no comeback for him now, no encore, no swansong…

    My instinct is to grab the wheel, and turn the ship around. And bid adios to Aloha, by cutlass take him down… And bring us back from the brink, of that opposing wilderness. A moment to cherish and savor, my serenity, my bliss…Time for armchair warriors, to quietly slip aside. For the naysayers to retreat, and let the girl of action hit her stride…Like a cougar about to pounce, like a wolf stalking her prey. Like an eagle with talons drawn, my scabbard will have it’s way…I’ll strike while the iron is hot, for it may be my only chance. Fait accompli awaits the jetsetter, when I introduce him to my lance…

    Ice cold shiv I tightly grasp, within my clammy hand. I do this for my party, for my country, for my land…My assassins heart starts pounding loudly, the seconds ticking by. The hairs bristle on my neck, and perspiration stings my eye…Poised and locked and loaded, my intentions crystal clear. I ignore all distraction, when I sense his presence near… Familiar footsteps now approach, and soon I glimpse him too. Even more beige than beige, about to meet his Waterloo…No longer our shiny new hope, his leadership he can’t reprise. He’s reached the end of the road, all that’s left is his demise…A highflyer from the business world, where he often thrived. About to be foreclosed on, zero hour has arrived…

    So this is what it’s come to, this is the culmination. What my training has prepared me for, after much anticipation…Great drama flows slow motion, shimmering sabre close to hand. Oblivious of my menace, this will be his final stand…I seize the opportunity, long blade now unconcealed. In scimitar flash I lunge at him, my ambush all revealed…The bell tolls for thee ding ding, the countdown of his life, It’s baldys birth day today, surprise, I’ll cut the cake with my favorite knife.

  4. You hope .As the saying goes it is not over until the fat lady sings.
    Those that care for the country can only wish after Oct we have a new management team that can get the country back on track

    • Trevor The fat dame Shipley had a gastric band or whatever it is to stop her being such a big gobbler, and look at her now, singing a might shameful sort of song. All the neolibs are dubious characters, Nats as well as Labour. Key did a bunk, Ardern did a bunk, the Greens are loonies, Act sociopaths, and if Hipkins has come out swinging against Winston Peters, then Peters has to be worth serious consideration. Hipkin’s misogyny is mind-blowing, but Peters is the only pollie man enough to openly respect women. That’s a biggie.

  5. It still gives a Nact win.

    Which sex uses public change rooms and bathrooms is not a trivial issues.

    Do we really want to allow me access to a women’s change room where teenage girls are changing?

    • Anker It’s pretty rich that Mr Hipkins, who has never been a female, as far as I know, is trivialising women’s issues in this way and trying to make martyrs of the transgender community at the expense not just of teenage girls, but of grandmothers, mothers, aunties, daughters, and nieces who don’t want to share private spaces with him and his mates. A few fathers and grandfathers feel likewise.I was already voting Peters anyway.

      • Yes it’s Hipkins who has made the issue of toilet by ramming through self ID. Lowing any man who says he’s a woman access to female toilets.

        Chip pie not only has never been (nor could he ever be ) a woman, he doesn’t know what one is

    • Sounds like you are trying to tell us something Anker. Why would any man, who thinks he is a man, and has no confusion over their sex at all ( I assume that’s you) want to go into a woman’s changing room with teenage girls?

  6. If Chris Hipkins sees this poll he will do his best to increase this gap, there is no way that he wants to negotiate with the Maori Party.

  7. [just another poll in which Labour is again not forming a government.]

    On those figures, neither does National: with NZ1st support (which is not guaranteed) they only have 50%. In that case Labour, as the incumbent, would continue to rule – at least until another election can be held.

  8. This might actually be the worst poll of the recent ones for Labour. If they are being voted out on the account of being useless then people may still vote for them to make sure Nat/Act don’t get too large a win. But here Lab/Gr/TPM/NZF could form Govt. So more voters may decide not to vote for Labour making their final result much worse.

    Or am I just overthinking this?

  9. Given Winston’s history. It would be wise for many on the left to vote for NZFirst to ruin any incoming NACT government.

    If the left can’t get in, at least we can use Winston to shit on the rights faces!

  10. As Hipkins won’t work with nz first, I can’t see your logic. If Nact get 50%, I am pretty certain they will arrange a C and S with Winston

  11. Till I find the party that is committed to returning full, free, uncompromised and promptly executed health services to all NZ born Kiwis again.
    That is committed to return to full free education including 5 years tertiary to all NZ born Kiwis.
    That will not increase the Superannuation eligibility age.
    That will commit to ensure all NZ born Kiwis are housed.
    That will restrict immigration to only those with specific knowledge and special skills needed in NZ and who are capable of training New Zealanders in the same .
    Then I will vote that party.
    Until I find it I will vote NZ First if for no other reason than as a protest at the many ways our basic NZ goal posts of egalitarism are being eroded.

  12. Just when I thought I had settled on voting for TPM seeing the bump for the Greens has me thinking it might be more strategic to vote for them instead… Could I just switch my electoral vote for a second party vote please?

  13. I’d say Chippy has a short window to turn this around, but if the next 1News or Newshub poll shows another drop for Labour then that might be it

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