We all want to believe Lauren Dickason was criminally insane when she murdered her own 3 children.
We do, we simply can not imagine any scenario where a mother would willingly murder her own kids based on anything less than insanity.
Unfortunately for her, I simply don’t believe the defence has managed to get even close to criminally insanity.
Yes she was depressed, yes she was having a hard time in a new country, yes it was extra stressful because of Covid but none of that even gets close to criminal insanity!
Criminal Insanity is an absolutely credible and righteous legal defence whereby a person can not tell the difference between right or wrong, where their logical functions as a rational human being have been severed from reality, and Lauren feeling depressed sad sad sad doesn’t even get close to that psychological state.
She wasn’t hearing voices, she wasn’t disconnected from reality, Jesus wept, she was justifying the order of murder because the youngest one was ‘playing up’.
In an age of subjective rage where ‘lived experience’ trumps objectivity, we have lulled ourselves into a micro aggression trigger culture where if we feel it, that’s all that matters, luckily for the justice of her children she murdered, that shit don’t fly in Court.
The trial continues.
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Narcissist with a God complex comes to mind unfortunately. Bless the kiddies. They’re safe now.
The kids are not safe! They’re dead!
Let the witch hunt of the white woman begin. Anything to take attention off Kiri, and well done, Covid is Pa, you’ve done it again.
In normal communities murder is a little bit more frowned upon than driving offenses don’t you think captain normal?
Let’s just wait and see what the psychiatric reports say. You know the people who likely interviewed her over a period of time.
Having said that, I am expecting them to be contradictory
I do think that it is a extremely difficult case to decide. It is a knife edge situation.
On one hand she tried to commit suicide an indicator of mental illness and I believe was suffering from severe post natal depression at the time which is hormonal and something outside of her control.
But on the other, I think she had anger towards her husband and children and there was pre mediation.
Is it insanity or 2nd degree murder when she was under the influence of post natal depression but did know what she was doing?
In NZ, 2nd degree murder is probably home detention – I doubt she is a danger to others with the insanity – it was directed at her kids and herself in these post natal depression situations.
It is a horrible tragedy, waste and situation for all involved. The problem in these cases is that it goes beyond the person – it is catastrophic for her kids, her husband, her family, the loss for everyone from her actions and she will not really get much penalty from NZ courts, unless they find her guilty of 1st degree murder – and I don’t think this would be fair either as it seems clear that post natal depression played a significant role.
Really does anyone want to “believe” or know anything about this looped out woman whose children paid the ultimate price–their lives?
I suspect a lot of people would prefer to not know too much about this case more than the gruesome details of any other murder or car crash–but the media channels sure put it in our collective faces 24/7.
Surely no-one kills their kids unless something is majorly wrong–if she was half lucid they could have been dropped off at the cop station, medical centre, a neighbour, anything but slaughtering innocents. I take the other posters point–that merely giving birth is not a prediction of the future relationship. Kid murder in NZ is often a divorced bloke who decides to take the kids with him and that is where this one sits.
She isnt the first woman to be driven up the wall by her kids. And not the first mother with mental health issues.
Amazing how many people are willing to hang brown people but are making excuses for this woman.
That’s because she isn’t punching them, burning them, putting them in clothes dryers and neglecting them.
She had depression but wasn’t abusing them before hand, she just killed them one night, and then tried to kill herself.
That is a different scenario than our normal child abuse – likewise the parents were not divorcing or breaking up, another type of child killing, when one party kills the kids during a break up to punish the other so they can’t get custody.
This is clearly in the, is it insanity or is it murder?
My view, is that they would all still be alive if she had not got the visa to come to NZ, aka our immigration policy should have denied the visa, after finding out she had a history of depression so that this situation would not have ever happened. But NZ doesn’t seem to believe in forward risk planning.
By the sounds of it, she was whacking them, and screaming and swearing at them, see? Making excuses for her because she is white. You are so damn racist.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/494565/lauren-dickason-appeared-distant-on-edge-of-breakdown-before-leaving-for-nz-mother
Latest from RNZ news. I’ve other things to do but I can put up a possible scenario for this later, I’ll try to get to it.
My sympathies go to those on the jury faced with responsibility of sitting in judgment on this case.
My guess is that whatever the outcome they’ll always be left wondering if it was the right thing to do.
And her husband may be forever wondering whether he should have gone out to dinner that night, leaving his clearly disturbed wife at “ home” on her own, with a handful of small children.
If we stick to the point about caring about and understanding the woman who did the crime we might see past our prejudices and cliches. Now here is a list of setbacks that can occur in a life and as they accumulate they cut into the psyche until they can leave mental wounds that become overwhelming.
https://scales.arabpsychology.com/s/life-events-checklist-modified/
What are the mental effects of moving to another country?
The stress of the move and adjustment to the new country, can lead to anxiety and depression and other psychological problems amongst migrants. Often the hardest thing for new migrants is coping with the loss of family and friends and the realisation that their loved ones are devastated by their move.14 Pēp 2018
Psychology & Immigrating – Imagine Health
imaginehealth.ie
https://imaginehealth.ie › psychology-immigrating
Yes Apple wood would u want this women to have more children and why did her and her husband both wl educated peoe come here when they knew they had mental health issues to deal with. As for u referring to the white women bullshit line I wonder what many of you lot would have said had it been a brown women. Racist judgemental views are common on this site. I have a sister who has suffered from mental illness for forty years she takes her meds so she can now care for her two mokos. She’s has never been a danger to anyone but herself we have had to commit her to protect her not others. Have you had any experience with a close whanau member suffering for many years somehow I doubt it.
Why is the dog black Trev she’s white maybe it’s a white dog or maggot on her back
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