Look at that half empty Michael Fowler Centre from the National Party Conference over the weekend.
It spells out a problem for National.
They can’t fill a 1000 person venue.
Right wing pundits don’t understand why Labour are still so high in the Polls because while the Right are highly polarised, they are not the majority.
The middle are terrified of what a National/ACT Government would actually do.
The reality is that the more redneck and reactionary the Right get, the more they lose the middle.
This middle vote doesn’t care Kiri shouted at bureaucrats and they don’t care Wood didn’t sell his shares, they are voting Labour to stop ACT and National.
Because Luxon is so weak, educated folk see Seymour will get everything he wants and the country will be twisted into the sharpest right wing turn this country has suffered since Rogernomics and Ruthanasia.
People might be pissed off at Labour post Covid, but allowing Darth Vader and his Paramilitary Stormtroopers in to run the day care centre isn’t really the solution eh?
The Right are blind to how extreme their policy direction is and that’s why they don’t understand why Labour’s vote is holding up.
John Key was beating Labour by double digits 180 days out from his elections, Luxon has never managed that ever.
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They’re are the rich man’s party only, evidenced by the size of their political donations by the wealthy elite and why over 60 % of the country can’t relate. You will often hear the right promote National as being for “all” NZ. That is nonsense talk, always has been. They are a party for their donors only, that will never change. That’s what you get with capitalism.
Yes you are right, National has for a long time become stodgy.
Labour has become to wishy washy.
Might be ACT that will become the true working person’s party
Absolute crap Wooly. What policy does Act have for the working person.
Oh I know. Drop minimum wage, no work place agreement, increase age of super, cease contribution to Super Fund, reduce benefits, change tax rates so higher earners benefit. I’m sure there are more.
Agreed Cobbly, that the Act party represents an existential threat to everything the first labour govt built so that NZ could take its place in the first world… But I have a suspicion that WB is making a joke..
“ACT that will become the true working person’s party”
I mean there are dumb comments then there is just ratfucking
There is a widespread rejection of the extreme policy positions of BOTH parties, but the monopoly press barons are acting as a protection racket for the corrupt politicians, and simply do not report such sentiment (an outrageous forty-year cover-up).
The two parties are to the right of Atlee/Nash AND Macmillan/Holyoake on the economy (and even Muldoon). They are also to the right of both John F. Kennedy AND Eisenhower on foreign policy.
The Tories know very well that the way to energise their base and get a strong turnout would be to return to moderate positions on both (i.e. a Trumpian platform), just as Labour knows the same is true for them (i.e. a Corbynite/Bernie-type platform). But the corporate political donors would never allow that, and so they both stumble on with extremely poor quality candidates, pushing unpopular globalist policies.
Speaking of the next election, I see that washed up former newsreader turned attention-seeking conspiracy theory spreader Liz Gunn has started a political party. You can donate a million dollars to her “cause” if you like! I almost spit my coffee out with laughter when I read that. What a joke.
As to this article, Luxon is pretty clueless. Yes, Labour have their problems, I’ll agree – but I don’t want someone like Luxon running the country. It’s quite different to running an airline.
Problem with your theory Bomber is that enough people would rather choose a plain peanut butter sandwich than the disgusting meal they’ve had to deal with for the past six years. Luxon only needs to be boring and safe pre-election and he can go as far right as he wants afterwards. He wouldn’t be the first PM to swing wildly from the centre. A majority never voted for Rogernomics, Ruthanasia or woke Co-Governance.
Jordi. That’s why we need Winston Peters and NZ First .
What I keep seeing and reading across NZ media and socials is that people do not trust Luxon and find him unrelatable and lacking in policy.
Many, many people would be prepared to give the Nats a go at this stage but when they decide to look into them they effectively see an empty room. No-one at home. (the Michael Fowler centre is a wonderful metaphor for what voters are perceiving).
Wishy washy, potentially woke Luxon who has zero smart policies (in fact, at this late stage in the game, a paucity of policies), wont take the attack to the other side and has the personality of a goldfish.
So that is the opinion of many centre voters and also quite a few on the right which is why so many have crossed to ACT because Luxon is simply not decisive and unequivocal enough for them.
The second thing you see echoed time and again on the socials is: The belief that National simply cannot NOT win! Labour is so very bad and its patently obvious to everyone that no-one but diehard Marxists will vote for them. I dont know whether they are so ideologically captured that they cant see it or whether they have enough money that the ‘bread and butter’ issues dont rate on their radar.
The truth is that National should be romping home about now and they shouldnt have to be doing anything too marvellous to get that landslide. Its a testament to how bereft of talent, leadership and forward thinking they are that they are still not managing to get across the line.
In all likelihood, Lab/Green will return (even though they shouldnt) because most people are desperately focused on ‘bread and butter’ and if that’s your situation you know instinctively you have to vote Labour. In lieu of a National Govt who hasnt committed to building more housing (Canada’s Nats did) or building more hospitals, why would Joe Average vote for them? The die hard Nats supporters are completely tone deaf.
The world has changed. Most of us want to vote on principle but few of us have the luxury of doing so. Govt’s can get away with a drift towards authoritarianism and other evils because we have to choose whoever will keep us in a job/ or put food on the table.
Having said that I think Labour will win with a small majority, however, it’s interesting to note that earlier this week, one Australian betting agency had National picked to win at $1.45 and Labour something around $2.20. So maybe they know something we dont.
Fantail. “ We have to choose whoever will keep us in a job. “. Yes. I gather this is why teachers unhappy with the damaging genderID ideology and sex education programmes in schools being captured by transgender radicals, have little choice but to go along with it. The same could apply to decent police officers who support all women, but who would have to comply with any directive from the Commissioner to prioritise transgender persons, as at Albert Park. Everyone needs to eat. Nigel Farage and his family having their various bank accounts closed on them in the UK, and the same I think happening to one or two vocal Scottish critics of government or public policy, is very intimidating. It is in all political parties’ interests to be the watchdogs of the New Zealand speech police, but the latter make that very difficult if they continue to fail to provide concrete facts or definitions of their own possible scenarios.
Nationals conference consisted of their MP’s and close family members, the empty spaces are where they lost voters to ACT.
Luxon is a Goff. No charisma.
What is clear is that Labour need at least 3 years on the. bench so they can take a good hard fucking look at themselves, what theyve done to this country, their supporters and their core values.
Also clear is they are fast running out of any semblance of competent electable ministerial candidates so their gunna need to regroup.
The country will suffer unimaginely under tbe alternatives but Labour must be brought to heel.
Darth Vader is already running the day care centre
We should be used to it Jason we live through nine years of shambolic governance with National.
We should be used to it Jason we live through nine years of shambolic governance with National.
We should be used to it Jason we live through nine years of shambolic governance with National.
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