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Luxon calls NZ a ‘negative, wet, whiny’ country
Christopher Luxon says New Zealand is a “very negative, wet, whiny, inward-looking country”.
He called NZ a ‘negative, wet, whiny’ country – ummmmmm. He does understand that there is an election in 4 months right?
Shitting on voters and calling NZ a ‘negative, wet, whiny’ country is a unique way to win votes from the masochist community who have a sexual fetish for being talked down to, but I’m not sure if the masochist community is large enough to win National the election.
Huge political gamble here from the National Party strategists, especially when you consider most of their policy is aimed at sadists.
I suppose they think getting the masochists alongside the sadists will be a vote winner.
It’s a different tactic from blowing Cows and Farmers I suppose.
I think Luxon is cracking now and if he keeps saying stupid shit like this Chippy will win.
Look at Chippy’s ‘wtf’ face when Luxon’s quote was read to him.

Now we know what Chris Luxon really thinks about NZ.
Charming.
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Was he in Hawaii or Whakatane when he uttered this bollocks one might ask?
He was right in some respects though–yes it has been rather wet lately–Climate Disaster and tipping points being reached will do that–plus if you are a poor cow in a cruel mud slurry known as “winter grazing” then it would be rather wet too. Whiny & negative–that would be Groundswell, Fed Farmers and every sheep shagger in creation. For farmers it is always too wet or too dry and please hurry up with the taxpayer subsidies for the fall out from the latest weather event.
Meantime these moaners get more time out from fronting up on the environmental damage they do…
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/130144119/national-promises-to-repeal-potential-farming-emission-changes
I only have one wish for Santa this year–please, please, Natzos keep Baldrick Mark Luxon on as your leader until October 14.
The comment Luxon made was clearly a reflection of himself nothing more nothing less.
Of course Luxon is entirely correct. (How else can one explain the disastrous collapse since the 1980s, with no sign of public revolt in 30 years?)
The problem is that Luxon isn’t any better. Trump is promising to build brand new cities and vast chains of factories, Mag-Lev rail, and to eradicate homelessness. Is Luxon even capable of such an optimistic vision?
Luxon only needs to look in the mirror to see where the negativity and whining are coming from. If he ain’t happy here he could go and work overseas again, I’m sure any of the nodding heads around him would willing fill his shoes.
No.
The majority of New Zealand is angry. They are angry about crime, the health system, education etc. If Luxon taps into this he rides to victory. Sure, the bureaucrats and the remaining covid cultists still believe this is the best little country in the world. Moreover this is a diminishing puddle of water. This couldn’t be more evident in Auckland. You are only patriotic when there is something to be patriotic about – there isn’t much at present in NZ to be proud of.
And remember the first crack in CovidCult was the “smug hermit kingdom” comment from Key. Used well Luxon could ride this into electoral victory. This is of course, A BIG IF.
You have no idea if “everyone is angry”. There’s a good chance that some will see tax cut and vote for that full stop. Not out of anger it is just what they want.
I’m Frangry I tells ya and I’m not going to stand for it.
Well we are a very negative, wet, whiny, inward-looking society. Partly our geographical location stuck in the cold antipodes, a boring homogeneous population base, none of the daily interaction of other cultures constantly in and out of our borders as on the Continent, peddling backwards into parochialism, a deliberately dumbed-down education system, a national library burning books, crappy television, crappy politicians and hopeless media; one PM boasting of baking scones for a pop star, another celebrating with the most inauthentic pizza in the world, one taking sausage rolls to the King of England- wow – a government trying to muzzle freedom of speech, and the SIS issuing guidelines about how to spy on the neighbours. Cheaper to fly from London to Paris for the weekend than from Wellington to Auckland, but that’s no great loss either.
Snow White
Love it. Keep it up – a hall of mirrors look at ourselves, curving, grotesque, gurning, etc. Face up to the awful face, and then afterwards look for what is the NZ hidden quality, the unrealised spark, the endearing side of our quixotic refreshing, adventurous spirit; find that and bottle it for goodness sake so we can be as cool as Lipizzaner-trained horses when we need, with our bottled genie ready at hand, not a degenerating, disconcerting rabble.
Mr. Luxon feels contempt for most NZders. It shows on his face every time we see him and he says it with every comment. He has no respect for the electorate, yet he thinks those same people should vote for him.
That is the way the right feels about most people who aren’t in their little club. Contempt and derision.
If he can’t find anything positive to say he should leave us to it.
If farmers think he likes them and is like them, they are dreaming.
Why do we need someone with that bad attitude running our country?
He goes over seas and runs us down. With prime ministers like that, who needs enemies.
It needs a lot more clever decision making to be run well, than a very small airline.
We need someone who actually likes us, being our PM.
Not a snob who ought to just emigrate and forget all about this ‘awful’ country.
He suffers from psychosis, he’s overseas but believes he’s in Te Puke.
Johan and no comment stop making lame excuses for Luxon who is showing his true colors obviously not PM material. Many NZers are suffering homelessness we just had a major cyclone and weather issues in Auckland impacting on many people’s states of mind, so what do you expect. The last thing we need is for the leader of one of our largest political parties to put the boot in. Luxon words are not only mean spirited, but they show poor judgment and bad timing.
We often judge people by the company they keep probably not the best choose to have standing by you.
To be honest sounds pretty accurate to me – NZ has been turning into turning into a woke shitfest for a while now and no wonder so many people are leaving for Aussie (and particularly the ones that the economy relies on to keep the leaking boat afloat).
Really? Some of that “brain drain” has returned with a piece of paper with 501 written on it. Sure they moved ages ago but I doubt every person heading to Aus is the next captain of whatever industry. And if you think they are leaving because of “wokeness” I very much doubt that. It’s the pay packet which the likes of NatACT are more than keen to suppress.
You forgot the record returnees that when once covid struck realised there’s no place like home. They have all stayed.
Provisional estimates for the year ended February 2023 compared with the year ended February 2022 were: migrant arrivals: 152,900 (± 1,700), up 195 percent. migrant departures: 100,900 (± 1,300), up 41 percent. annual net migration: gain of 52,000 (± 2,000),
So inaccurate James. Many people are arriving to NZ. We have a brain gain.
At least we have retained our resident sheep Baa Baa Bob.
uh Martin Masochist means wanting to be harmed, ridiculed etc. I don’t think NZders can. be described like this, other than those in the Queer community who like kink
Oh right. So most of the Tory government are trans? They after all have been flogged harder than most. I guess Peter Plumley Walker was a striking blonde with an Adams apple the size of a cricket ball.
PPW I remember that. The darker side of the fun-loving Nats came to real grief. Not everyone would remember that piece of NZ history .
Anker I reckon politicians who use the services of Green Party pole dancers would have to be masochists, especially knowing the girls could write them into their memoirs like Harry the Spare, or threaten them with tell-alls to barrel-scraping scribes, or incorporate them into school curricula. Half the Beehive have to be masochists to agree to share spaces with the sadists in the other half, and they’re nearly all sociopaths anyway. Time to dump the lot and bring back Peters.
Beware of gazing too long into your negative view of the depths of NZ/AO failures Luxon as it will reflect back onto your face and mind; the source from where such ignominy has risen.
You will know yourself as part of that dark company. And it is not hyperbole to say it is dark, under its sheeny wrapping; but it isn’t chocolate under there.
Thoughtful saying:
“Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.” Nietzsche’s quote above has become very much a part of who I am. When you gaze into that abyss, it gazes back, and it tells you what you are made of. 10/06/2015
When You Gaze Into the Abyss | Navigate Life Texas
https://www.navigatelifetexas.org › blog › article › when…
(And that is deeply felt, coming from Texas where there many abyssesssess – like snakes.)
Martinet teacher gives NZ/AO a a fail.
I hope if the teachers get a wage rise they can take a long view about what and how they teach and how and what results arise in the students passing out. Are they capable to understand and continue learning and understanding, about life, the universe and everything and everyone. Because that’s what we need but probably the flunkeys of the middle class in the Education Deportment are too busy renovating their offices etc to actually embrace the real needs for new curricula for the organic, llving people who are fed the latest spiel Which turns out to be along the lines that we are wet and whiny, both factual. Discuss..
Having heard that particular comment, I don’t think that New Zealand is quite ready for a change of government, and if you look at some of the National MP’s you can see that they’ve been in politics for quite some time whereas their leader and his Deputy have not. So I’m picking that labour will win a fourth term in power, only the second time in history to do so, I believe, and Chris Hipkins will serve as an elected Prime Minister for one term before a renewed National Party are elected to power in the 2026 general election.
NZ is a negative, whinging country though, as youve said before, our negativity ran one of the most optimistic, positive leaders we’ve ever had out of the country.
NZers love to bitch and moan and whinge about everything. Literally everything.
there’s absolutely nothing Nzers love to do more than whinge and bitch.
Especially about anyone who tries to do something, be they athletes, singers, artists, scientists or leaders (of all political persuasions) this country loves tearing people down.
NZ is an amazing country, the people of this country, from the big cities to the smallest towns, are all some of the coolest, most innovative, tolerant and kind people in the world , but boy can they be unbearably negative, passive aggressive.
obiligatory post to the topic – old whiney is having a whine whine about everyone is so whiney – pathetic. only effing muppets blame blame on the game game.
Not one mention of a party of meritocratic democrats. Ditch Westminster – time to grow up.
Yes – chat GPT to run the world then we can all be a Member of Merit.
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How do you tell an airplane of kiwis just landed at Sydney Airport? lol
Perhaps more will see the lack of character, of integrity, of cogence, in this man now? Of course, many National voters are not known for their vast intelligence, for sure, but it may be a wake up call for some. The idiocy of one who actively seeks to lead a country drives him to insult it. Luxon only wants the PM role to earn himself a knighthood – just like his friend Key – then return to the USA where something like him belongs.
I wonder if any of the people slagging off farmers here would be hypothetical enough to tuck in to a big juicy steak?
I don’t mind the comment – I find under these harsh living standards we are more “negative, wet, whiny, inward-looking”, you only have to look at a town area shutting due to gangs. Maybe they see it as positive – does the rest of NZ? Surely the NI is more wet?
UN Money to Fiji Dairy Farming etc, our health system, parents and teachers strikes, possible blackouts, inflation, crime, census failure . . . . . . . – give me a positive politically?
However, I am enjoying the little things in life more with people – that’s where reality makes smiles.
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