See, I told you so about The Nashy (Suns out – Guns out)!

1. Nash seems to have lots of sympathy from opposition parties. Makes you wonder if the connection between donor and parliament makes some nervous. Sure Luxon is gunning for him, but Winnie and Seymour seem almost apologetic. It spoke volumes this morning when Simon Bridges said his biggest mistake was putting it in writing!

   • So, it’s not about Nashy – it’s about the Nats, and Act! And Simon Bridges! Anything but the Labour Cabinet.

     • No Ada, it’s about all of them. Please don’t tell me you think only Nash has incidents to answer for. Did you not hear Winston defending Nash?

       • Just re-read ‘Dirty Politics’ which shows the Nats much more devious, two-faced and manipulative than solo Nash is or ever was.
         We have very short and selective memories.

2. Nash seems to have lots of sympathy from opposition parties. Makes you wonder if the connection between donor and parliament makes some nervous. Sure Luxon is gunning for him, but Winnie and Seymour seem almost apologetic. It spoke volumes this morning when Simon Bridges said his biggest mistake was putting it in writing!

   • Simon says…..
     Nash was “caught out” for doing what they all do.
     This is how the system works. We all know this to be true.
     Why do you think the Greens have been working so hard to change the “system”. They want an advantage!

   • Simon says…..
     Nash was “caught out” for doing what they all do.
     This is how the system works. We all know this to be true.
     Why do you think the Greens have been working so hard to change the “system”. They want an advantage!

   • Never write things down that you wouldn’t want to release in OIA request. Politics 101.

3. Keep him on until the slash enquiry then crucify him. Party funding is an extreme issue. All parties should have a fixed budget and equal air time in election run ups. Anything else is corrupt as and undemocratic imo.

4. Can one find a rational xplanation why this behaviour of Nash was ignored by labour leadership?
   The labour leadership was aware of these “transgressions”. Only the naïf will not realise that this is normalised behaviour for politicians of every colour.
   Stuart Nash was rewarded for his contribution to the Labour Party.

   Now it is expedient to put distance between him and the Labour Party leadership.

   That is how our system works. Or should that read, why our system does not work? Remember Jamie-Lee Ross and Simon Bridges.

   • This attitude in Government/ Politics was introduced by Jacinda Ardern.

     • Bob I didn’t know that JA was JK I think you are mixed up as usual

5. There isn’t anybody in Parliament which isn’t beholden to corporate political donors.

   Another reason why a new party, to challenge the traitorous Blairites in the Labour Party, will eventually emerge.

6. “……he’s a dickhead who would big note anything without the brains to appreciate what he was doing.”

   Unfortunately, there’s a lot of it about. Ticking boxes, marketing the message and spinning is all that matters

   • And so it was with Cam Wallace, Marama, the Labour Party’s fish and chip group, and several chief gee bung wonders of government agencies and corporations.
     I’m devastated (NOT)

7. I quite like Nashy.

   • Lots of people adore Nashy, the news ladies on the telly were gushing about his blokieness last night suggesting that releasing confidential government communications was a bloky misstep. Even Premier Hipkins said he was ‘gutted’ his mate was passing on cabinet decisions to some entitled corporate ghouls. Forget the little cabinet manual, this blatant disregard for government security is as bad as treason. Here’s how the system seems to be working, New Zealanders provide their vote, their information and their trust to these elected individuals, and then instead of working on our behalf to make a better society for all, these representatives take our lifeblood and either use it to enrich themselves and their mates or use it in an agenda against us. Cool ay?

   • I followed gnashys Facebook feed for a while after the Chch terrorist shootings. He’s blokey, pretty thick and with a vindictive temper if his replies to some posters were anything to go by.
     Remember his “altercation” over who was using what machine? That guy.

     • *gym altercation”

   • So you just condemned the PMs office ( underlings presumably) for not take action against Nash but you like him all the same? Are you just parroting Winston, Seymour, and Bridges?

8. Pathetic scum. Fuck them all. We’re trying to pay the power bill and they do this shit. Run about with their little dicks out. What awful wankers.
   But do you know what’s really sad? People who still believe we have (highly paid) political representation whereby politicians vie for who best can serve us. That, is what saddens me.
   We haven’t had genuine, quality politics since Norman Kirk died in 1974. ( I heard Kim Hill talking to a retired National Party MP on morning report a few years ago on RNZ who alleged Kirk was murdered. If so, then likely by the French but then who would know.)
   Watching and listening to our dumb, boring, unintelligent, greedy, nasty, bully, politicians swagger about while we all struggle in one way of another is tedious in the extreme.

9. Aloha Luxon who can’t see the wood for the trees, wants Nash to resign, to force a by-election. A waste of money from the person who purports to know about money, in an electorate with more important issues, such as trying to recover from cyclone devastation. Why have a by-election so close to the general election, when voters in the general election can make up their minds about Nash then. Luxon is putting political muckraking above being sensible. And if he wanted to be sensible, then can he explain why Barbara Kuriger is still in parliament, after her severe conflict of interest with MPI over ill treatment of livestock on her family farm? At least Nash had his heart in the right place, trying to do the right thing, but doing it the wrong way, while Kuriger was just nepotism, yet no talk from Aloha about a by-election for Kuriger.
   And pray tell, does Aloha have any opinion on the dirty politics revelations from the book of the same name, well of course he would, and he would be hell bent on telling everyone, and calling for an independent inquiry, if the dirty politics revelations came from Labour, but since it was National…meh.

10. I see Chipkins said that reviewing all past cabinet communications for malfeasance would be too big a task. I disagree. Hire a team of consultants to do it if you have to Chippy! There is something fishy going on here, if the PMs office can assess that the Nash information trading was out of scope then they must have seen it to make this assessment. What other malfeasance lies within at the Beehive?

    • One does not need a consultant where daylight is all that is required.

11. ” problem is he’s the only bloke Labour has (other than Willie Jackson and Kieran McAnulty) who is working class enough to win over Provincial vote.”

    And right there is the problem.
    Someone told me 15 years ago that the Labour party was run by gays and lesbians and that if you were christian, working class, straight or anything else main stream then they wanted nothing to do with you.
    I honestly scoffed at the time because I never thought this could be the truth, but 15 years on here we are.

    The reality is that NZ First, ACT and National have far more in common with the working man than Labour and Greens.

    Labour needs to kick all its former student politicians out and bring in a mix of workers and small to medium business owners.

    • Spot on Jays the Labour Party definitely does not represent the “working man.”
      The Greens by their actions oppose the “working man.”
      National/Act have more in common.

      • “National/Act have more in common”

        Yes, more. But not enough. Not nearly enough.
        My post was not a party political broadcast for those parties.
        It is pretty easy to have more in common with the everyday voter when your opponent’s only interest is the rights of people who identify as gay unicorns.

      • Oh please are you Jays and Bob saying a good keen man is always a heterosexual, there lies the crux of this country blatant ignorance for the sake of it. Lets send them all back to the toilets with the raincoat’s brigade. Lets show ourselves up in the world lets all go back into the closet. Let the fundamental Christians aka Luxon, Brown et al run the show , lets have all the women bare foot and pregnant to give birth whatever cost. No divorce, no abortion plenty of the bash. That is the reality of New Zealand with these fundamental christian brigades give it all back to these men so that they decide because they know what’s best for the little women .

    • Add feminist and Maori activists to that list of factions too.
      And it has repercussions in the wider public service as well, for example I know a couple of people who were ministerial assistants (or whatever the term is). They are in a pool of assistants and incoming ministers get to choose assistants from the pool and the unlucky ones get to look for a new job – after the last election few white men were chosen so the next government will have to choose from a limited range of candidates who are there not because of their abiliities but because they ticked the boxes required by the previous government.

12. all nashs communications not all labour mps or even cabinet members, he’s already a busted flush so no harm in deep sixing him….we want to know about the rest

13. The fruit of Nashy’s Labour goes pear-shaped.

14. As more comes out on the actions of Nashy,the more will be revealed of the cover up by Ardern and senior ministers.( Was Chippy involved?)

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