When I led protests back when I was at University, I took on enemies who could fight back.
I took on Auckland University.
I took on the Education Ministry.
I took on the Police (lots).
I took on the Government (many times).
I also took on the Mass Surveillance State (once was enough).
I also carry the scars of those battles with real power because that’s what happens when you take on real power, it fights back, so I’m not going to be lectured to by the current crop of snowflake woke protestors who are all screaming the weekends Thugs Veto assault of Posie Parker and the chasing of her from the public square was some kind of fucking victory, because it was not!
Watching so many I respect on the Left tie themselves in knots on Twitter trying to justify the violence at the protest on Saturday is disappointing and beneath the collective mana of the Left.
All those being triumphant over assaulting Posie Parker are telling the rest of NZ is that you are prepared to use violence and intimidation anytime you disagree.
The woke have no comprehension how this Thugs Veto is playing outside their echo bunkers to the wider electorate.
Mob rule isn’t protest.
Emotionally, protestors on the day resembled every single person ever bullied at school for being different.
They came for cathartic revenge.
Because woke activists now rely on echo bunkers and cancel culture, they have lost the ability to persuade.
I have many self declaring feminist women who privately tell me they have real misgivings with some of the Trans woke dogma but are terrified of saying anything because the Fourth Wave Feminists, non-binary activists and trans ally vegan mommy bloggers rip them to pieces on social media.
Posie Parker is what happens when we censor and the mob attack on her weakens the Left’s moral high ground.
The Left should be championing free speech, not limiting it and when we do protest, it should be to win over people, not beat them up.
We may have won the Thugs Veto Battle last weekend, but we’ve lost the Free Speech War tomorrow.
In the end, it wasn’t the Trans community who were in danger, it was Posie Parker and that’s exactly what she wanted.
Expect ACT to jump in the Polls because they are the only real winners here!
5 years ago I warned the middle class woke not to start a free speech culture war because it would inadvertently trigger the dormant political fault line of ACT.
The middle class woke activists ignored me, started their free speech culture war and ACT went from .7% to 12% now!
That represents the most explosive political polarisation New Zealand politics has ever seen!
The Woke can’t help but hand ACT political ammunition and they’ve been doing it for 5 years now!
Let me be as clear as I can be to the wider political Left, if we get dragged into a Culture War by these Woke Cultists, we will get torn to pieces in the election.
Comrades – Your enemy isn’t a woman who says stupid shit about Trans people in a public park, your enemy are the Banks, Oil Companies, Billionaires and Property Speculators who continue to pillage this country while we are bickering over the narcissism of petty difference!
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Winstone too is likely to go up.
I’ve read many comments from old womans rights types and old time Lesbians who are vowing to not vote for anyone who wont put Womens voices first. So on that basis (they’re traditionally left voters) I imagine the smaller parties also may gain some such as NC or TOP perhaps but certainly ACT and NZF.
The consensus is out everywhere on social media that Luxon does not stand for anything and is in any event, always a dollar short and a day late. I dont think he is physically capable of being unequivocal so although he could be a big winner here , he’s blown it.
Meanwhile Nashy gets the Slashy Part 2 came along and the poor man got sacrificed on the Altar of Chippie’s very bad day (3 days) where he just couldnt get the narrative off of the intractable Marama Davidson and the beating up of the old Fems in the Rotunda both of which were seriously making him look bad.
So poor old Nashy got sacrificed via Stuff to save the party who had his goose cooked and out to the press in about an hour. (Not sure the PMs people could get a Press release turned around in that kind of time anyway). But the main thing is that the new and improved PM got to show his decisive and moral correctness and managed to snatch the narrative back from culture wars purgatory.
Alas poor Nashy, I knew him well. He was a good bloke who went down with the ship or should we say went out on a tide of Forestry Slash.
I thought one of the arguments to be presented was not allowing transgender people into women-only spaces, something I can certainly agree with. The trouble with any transgender argument is that you are dealing with liars (in my opinion)
please, i have to know, what are women-only spaces?
Exactly what I want to know ?
No one can answer that.
It is blatant anti trans bullshit.
https://www.psycom.net/gender-identity?
Divide and rule.
Those at the top are peeing themselves laughing at our stupidity and how easily we are manipulated.
‘Rats in a cage’ as per the well know pyscology experiment and the Chris Martenson video.
If the left parties can’t control themselves and remove politicians who are not able to control themselves and be objective and are creating a double justice system where 70 year old ladies are assaulted on a protest for speak up for woman, then they aka Marama should not be in power.
It is not the first time Marama has said similar statements against white men. The C word has been used before. Now they have the crazies and extremists everywhere in parliament. It is Donald Trump inciting violence and division, but in the hard left.
The aesthetic left aren’t listening. They’re got grifters of there own, lawyers, doctors, bureaucrats, corporations, YouTubers, twitter accounts. All grifting and all profiting from the devolution of the two patent household to a one parent household.
They’re begining with conclusions like trans woman are woman. Nevermind the data and science.
I say we strap them all to the Green Party and drown it at the election.
De-platforming should always be a last resort unless it is actual avowed Nazis. Then anything goes.
People should realise that the state forces and Police play for keeps unlike the Rainbow brigade. I was on a dawn union strike and picket at Astley Tanneries in New Lynn just after the union busting Employment Contracts Act was passed in the early 90s. Big tough mainly Polynesian workers, the front row linked arms and a large contingent of cops with batons advanced–and trying something new they took advantage of the picketers arms being down and used hammer blows directed at collar bones, several received broken collar bones and other nasty injuries. We held the line and the cops pulled back. A bit more than tomato juice!
Kelly Jay/Parker is the least of our worries–a right twat. She seems part of the global effort of Steve Bannon and co that surfaced via Groundswell etc at the Parliamentary grounds occupation. It is diversionary bollocks. It is indeed corporate capital and climate disaster we need to be fighting first and foremost.
Political violence leading up to the election from an extremist in the transgender community very possible now just as from white nationalist or incel communities.
Fringe groups open to radicalisation especially via their social media echo bubbles, and in the case of the weekend have been provided an example where their moral authority from the event was celebrated and promoted.
One day tomato juice, the next…
People are tired of losing the right to protest or speak freely in NZ. Whether you agree or disagree there used to be a fundamental right to protest in NZ, that has been eroded and free speech and debating both points of view together, is very hard to achieve here now.
Don Brash can’t speak at university (too dangerous).
Speak up for Woman can’t speak in Wellington.
Speak up for Woman can’t speak in Auckland.
http://www.voxy.co.nz/national/5/414629
Counter protests groups can’t speak in Auckland. (Too dangerous).
Auckland Council urges people to stay away from canned anti-co-governance rally
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/auckland-council-urges-people-to-stay-away-from-canned-anti-co-co-governance-rally/54ZEIXXXCRDNLABSIWQUD2DE4E/
Fundamental rights have been eroded under a left government that is undermining the basics of democracy, The woke agenda is not left it is totalitarian than left.
16% for ACT.
all you people are aware there are over 140 plus anti transgender bills in progress in USA red states are you not.
All led by your so called women only spaces crap religious right and neo Nazis and white supremacists.
This is just one of the over 300 political action committee’s leading the charge and paid for posies tour.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Political_Action_Conference?fbclid=IwAR3uGMSwXP4u0aZfMAg34JqmivhR9kBQnl1UgzlVZk05cOx8QlzcRzzdgYo
Last weekend wasn’t a victory it was an open declaration of war.
If the right and their acolytes try to bring their USA style anti lgbtqia bullshit here .
The rainbow community of all ages will be out on the streets in force.
Actually last Saturday was an outstanding win.
Speak Up for Women is being overwhelmed with women wanting to join it.
They can see what happens when you try to protect your sex based rights
Dodging the core premise of the argument. Unless of course, you are a devout Christian, and you wish to impose the Bible at gunpoint.
I am an athiest and I am against all violence.
I have never been near a gun in my life
I dont see Parker mentioned in there. Have you got anything we can look at that shows her links to groups like these?
https://scontent.fchc2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/338133910_5896378430469299_4307432925146095865_n.jpg?stp=cp0_dst-jpg_e15_fr_q65&_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=110474&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ohc=8OwaQg2YCdYAX_2eWAp&_nc_ht=scontent.fchc2-1.fna&oh=00_AfBrsml-nNJ_MPwp6HxFpA8WRHQ1FnWV_Z9R8EWd1V4j5g&oe=642902A2
https://twitter.com/AidanCTweets/status/1639586108773113856
https://www.tiktok.com/@eddiefadewalker/video/7214873097713749253?_r=1&_t=8azpBDHndkQ&fbclid=IwAR0_V3LyqZrgSErIbiCPUylppiFRn65a_rf_tPyeVjFTF8TtGRMP-YHsElo
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The irony of biological men attacking biological women at a pro-feminist rally should not be lost on anyone. Well at least the far-right and far-left finally agree on something… they both hate women/feminists.
Could be amusing if it wasnt depressingly true
I agree, hate in NZ for woman is growing under the propaganda ‘diversity’.
Its not the left that want to give women the death penalty for seeking abortions.
And as usual brave ACT waited on the sidelines without voice bit with very reactive free speech. What a bunch of rednecks the ACT party are.
Agreed 100%
In the early part of footage, the younger man holding the ” go home posie ” sign has persons standing each side of him ie. he’s in the middle standing still.
There is clearly empty, space to the fore and side of him also showing others with adequate space walking
past.
However, to the side of the younger man, across the grass space some metres away , despite all the other action going on amoung hundreds, and without the younger man knowing , the ‘filmer’ has already positioned themself and has begun focusing in and filming the younger man who is fixed in one place, initially two hands on his sign.
The camera man is not panning around.
The younger man is standing in one place looking ahead of himself.
Then from the right of the footage, to the fore of the man , the older woman comes into shot deliberately advancing and aiming for this particular younger man, no one else. She’s not walking past in the empty space or being blocked. She is intent on this man, ‘rushes’ across the empty space, crossing some metres, raising her arms and balling her fists as she goes and with her right fist strikes the younger man on his chest first.
How did the mobile phone-camera person coincidently know where to be, choose their rear action direction, who to film and at the right time ?
Damn good question.
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