Well that was all a bit of nonsense wasn’t it?
The Groundswell protest was a cow fart in an empty paddock wasn’t it?
Despite all the connections, it fell very flat.
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Groundswell want to know why we in the urban centres are so pissed off with them, so let’s answer that shall we?
We are pissed off at Corporate Farmers over how John Key sold 49% of our Hydro Assets to create a $400million irrigation slush fund that was used to intensify dairy farming while polluting our water and generating climate changing gasses!
We are sick to death at the way the entire economy is forced to bend over backwards for a sunset industry that will crash the millisecond the fast food industry can create a synthetic milk powder.
By the way claiming that NZs emissions mean nothing in comparison to China and India isn’t a justification to do nothing, it’s an acknowledgement that radical adaptation is the only move left because those Goliath economies have already doomed us to a dangerous climate change future!
Shouldn’t the Corporate Farmer Quislings be apologising to us?
The Corporate Farmer Quislings tell us the $20billion in trade they get from John Key’s ‘all our cows in one Beijing paddock’ strategy is beneficial for us.
Really?
We don’t see any of that fucking money!
We pay a price for NZ dairy and NZ meat that is set by an international market, so we are competing with the 400million others wanting that product!
So we don’t see no price benefit from those quisling corporate farmers getting richer.
A cow shits the same as 14 humans, we have 10 million cows, that’s the equivalent of 140million humans pissing and shitting into our rivers.
We don’t see no environmental benefit from these quisling corporate farmers getting richer.
We are now utterly addicted to Chinese money and can’t disentangle ourselves from their influence and power, especially with 200 000 Chinese NZers now living in Auckland, a city of 1.2million.
We don’t see no sovereignty benefit from these quisling corporate farmers getting richer.
The quisling corporate farmers claim they are generating jobs, yet they import cheap foreign labour to do those jobs!
Look at the fuss kicked up by Farmers at the mere suggestion they pay for their pollution!
This money generated by trade with China comes with so many fish hooks there’s more hook than fish.
We have been betrayed by the quisling corporate farmers and their National Party patsies. THEY are getting rich, we aren’t.
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Pak n Save “special” on leg of lamb the other day $52 ish, down from $62 ish. A leg in my freezer purchased some months back was $25 on special. Someone’s creaming it but I’m not getting fatter. I just won’t pay those prices. They’ll no doubt be lots of lamb legs in land fill this Xmas. Hopefully they get given to food banks though. That would be hearty.
Notwithstanding the price of cheese is theft
Another townie calling farming a sunset industry. Farming in NZ is world leading because NZ farmers keep innovating and are increasingly productive.
At the same tlme as you want the government to spend vast amounts helping the poor, you want to kneecap our most productive industry.
Lets get rid of oil and farmers because obviously we don’t need them and see how NZ turns out. This won’t make the slightest difference to climate change and your doomsday predictions even for 2030. But you will be moaning about even more poverty.
Mass dairy farming for export milk powder is a sunset industry
Mass consumption of meat is a sunset industry.
If you cant appreciate the wishes of your future consumers you will perish despite your futile and ignorant sloganeering and protestations.
no they put hand out for bailout and demand market protection and a debt jubilee
What a crock of shit Tom. Farmers have been moaning their tits off since the subsidies were taken off them back in the 80s. Remember Muldoons guaranteed minimum price payments. Paid each farmer based on stock units, no checking, someone close to me seemed to have 200 ewes on his dairy farm. They were unique sheep, totally invisible and lived off fresh air.The sky didn’t fall then. Those that went broke were only in business because of said subsidies and were replaced in due course. Didn’t see any empty farms back then or since.
Reality is that farmers, NatActs are dirty polluting bags of shit and if they had any sense of responsibility to the country that has given them a soft ride for ever they would suck it up and get on with doing the right thing. This is coming from one whose parents were farmers and one who has spent 50 years in the dairy industry I am almost ashamed to say.
All this is true but a fart tax is a tax on food production and will only increase consumer price for butter milk and cheese.
And why dont other industries gather enough political muscle to demand a $400 million or $1billion fund to jump scale a human pharmecueticals industry or gaming industry or any cleaner greener industry?
“fart tax ”
Yes, fart tax. That’s where the methane is.
Your attempt at mockery through language is asinine.
NZ has allowed a dysfunctional system of importing cheap foreign labour and it’s not just farming.
50% of Auckland’s construction is now Chinese. It hasn’t even lowered construction prices it seems to have made property higher as the new builds are worth more than the old builds being demolished and everyones rates (which effect rent) go up for all the new infrastructure of construction that new migrants are buying in a ponzi to access NZ. Not to mention spiralling insurance premiums as people in NZ keep being allowed to build is places effected by flooding, climate change etc.
When things go wrong with all the cheap labour, taxpayers pay the bill, unions support taxpayers paying the bill, and nobody from the Chinese community is even bought to justice even if a person is dead, working illegally etc. https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/illegally-working-overstayer-dies-on-the-job-acc-payment-made-to-widow-in-china/OWADEJMGCUYM36WLF6YNKUA2SE/
Occasionally NZ justice make tentative attempts at other nationalities but NZ residency is never revoked so it’s win, win, work illegally, get residency, get dowry from arranged marriage, take ERA action and get compensation, get to keep NZ residency for family and get more relatives over. https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2022/10/exploited-migrant-worker-awarded-nearly-100k-in-compensation.html (Note if it’s a Chinese national found using illegal construction labour, the fines seem more like a fraction of that)
NZ does not care if labour is exploited, we even buy more from China itself!
New Zealand buying more from Chinese region linked to forced labour
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/china-and-nz/125873315/new-zealand-buying-more-from-chinese-region-linked-to-forced-labour
This is green lit by government, they allow the immigration visas, they control the policy so that police, woke safe, ACC, labour inspectorate and not prosecuting and if they do, the fines are pathetic and everyone in the exploitation get to win, by keeping their recent NZ citizenship and residency status.
This is the very purpose of hyper neolib capitalism.
Extract the maximum profit through the lowest cost input and charge the absolute maximum the market will bear.
It may be outrageous but thats what it’s designed to do.
and needs globalism to flourish, otherwise once they backrupt the locals, when need ‘fresh’ consumers and labour from other countries to keep going. It’s economic ponzi.
“In 2016, Dhiman was granted a three-year essential work visa as a store manager for the pizza store in Flat Bush.”
This is my favourite line from the articles above. I never realised running a pizza store was “essential work”. Who needs nurses when you’ve got junk food, right?
+1 simonm
“We pay a price for NZ dairy and NZ meat that is set by an international market, so we are competing with the 400million others wanting that product!”
That could be simply solved by government policy. Minimum reservations for New Zealand consumers and price controls.
But they are paying less for it. Price of 1 Lt of regal milk 30% higher in NZ than OZ.
Beef is 5% higher in NZ.
Wages are 25% lower in Auckland than Sydney.
Some people are making massive profits in NZ! Low labour and higher prices!
https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?country1=New+Zealand&country2=Australia&city1=Auckland&city2=Sydney&tracking=getDispatchComparison
Well, exactly. So let’s have price controls and national reservations. It’s pretty simple to implement this stuff, and socialist governments like that of Iran often coopt cooperatives (like Fonterra) to implement this for them (a lot easier than having to go round to thousands of individual farmers to individually requisition part of their production).
Communism never worked.
“Communism never worked”
and the jury is still out on capitalism.
NZ’s other problem is that they can’t be bothered to get accurate data on emission and climate change and compare who is doing a great job in NZ business to those who should try and do better.
It’s just name calling at this stage.
There are international standards to measure climate change but are NZ regulators up to the job?
Will NZ regulators just virtue signal so that NZ emissions are not comparable due to being in PDF’s not publicly available to the public and then be surprised when in a decade (like NZ recycling that is pathetic at 5% and after spending a fortune on pretending we are clean and green) be found out when our trading partners mandate knowing this information and laugh at NZ, due to our inability to meet the correct international climate change standard and report in a practical and measurable way?
Instead of penalizing farmers, why don’t we incentivize/teach them to convert their farms to lower polluting methods/produce. Governments love to tax as it fills their coffers with no outlay.
However assisting & rewarding people to change their practice take effort, and is always more long lasting and fruitful.
Many of these comments say they do not see the results of the money earned by the farmers .When farmers and associated businesses make a profit then they pay tax as do all the workers involved . These taxes pay for all the thinks that makes NZ a great place to live. No exports and we would quickly lose our standard of income and that would effect our other main earner which is tourism . High end tourists would find this country less attractive if we had poor roads etc.
Everything is a Sunset Industry once lake Taupo blows. In the meantime Fonteara should do the smart PR thing and half the price of cheese and milk to kiwi customers. Call it kiwi cheese and kiwi milk
Just curious how the corporate farmer/pollution hate applies to Ngai Tahu being the corporate behemoth overseeing 100 000 hectares of land in dairy beef and forestry.
Bearing in mind they were knocked back for more conversions to irrigated dairy land in Canterbury.
One doesn’t have to wonder very hard what happens when you give the same iwi control of the water as well under 3 waters.
As far as the farmer tax itself goes, it’s not going to stand so probably not something to get upset about.
The cost and availability of food due to climate change is one of the core reasons for the Paris climate accord so banging a tax on farmers is counter intuitive (fucking stupid), and not something any else is doing.
It will go.
The modest protest didn’t upset the townies too much (deliberately) and there was a lot of support from city folks.
Compare and contrast to the twats at the other protest (all 5 of them) glueing their hands to the pavement and annoying the shit out of everyone.
“Sunset” industry lol… humans will be a sunset race then.. pathetic left garbage.
I irony of all this is, while the farming fraternity is highly critical of this government, incessantly claiming they and it’s leader are communist, yet the farming industry is wedded to the concept of making as much money any way they can with the largest communist country on the planet.
look cost this our tractor, monster our value, place profit.
Corporate farms ? didn’t the government that calls itself Labour ,suggest we have more foreign Corporates own of Build to Rent Housing in NZ.
Blackrocks and other corporates been buying big into housing in the US.
They sell big blocks of land to foreign Corporates to plant in pines.
We have to reduce carbon.
But this tax will mean more complexity and Corporate ownership of land.
Oh yer and its Groundswell that decide we’re our exports go…yer right.
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