Erica Stanford, Kiri Allan clash over nurse immigration settings in fiery debate
National’s Erica Stanford and Labour’s Kiri Allan have clashed on AM over whether New Zealand has the right immigration settings to entice nurses to the country.
Let’s be very, very clear here – if National win in 2023, they will do exactly what Key did and throw open the immigration flood gates and pretend that false inflation of migrant workers equates to growth.
Auckland in infrastructure gridlock and renters are the collateral damage of National and Erica Stanford’s mass immigration.
National is nothing more than a front for Chinese business interests and their voting base are the farmers and hospo/mass tourism industry that requires migrant worker exploitation so National’s immigration solutions are more morally akin to a drug dealer wanting more drugs.
The solution to nursing shortages is to offer NZers free education and allowances in return for bonding theme here. What makes me choke in laughter at the rights framing of the nursing crisis is that they NEVER look at the huge loans we saddle Kiwis with when they become nurses. Of course they – like all students hit with debt – run offshore to find the wages to pay that debt off.
Instead of admitting the neoliberal version of user-pays education is fucked, what do National want to do? Import cheap nurses from the Philippines while our local nurses flee the debt we saddle them with and National have the intellectual dishonesty of calling that a solution!
You think life is tough now, wait until National throw open the immigration flood gates once again to prop up their industry mates who require exploited labour.
Kiri Allan was polite.
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Yep, Farrar is banging on about how anti immigration Labour is. Guess he believes Nats can get some election time campaign milage with this one.
Another “Rock Star Economy” on the way.
If NATZACT get in then the property speculators will be invited to lead their hill billy rock star economy.
It was a pathetic interview / debate…. Ryan Bridge was anything but impartial … a hopeless journalist really with no integrity what so ever … they are supposed to be above all that.
In the end it just looked like 2 members of the National Party up against the Minister with one of the National Party members being in control of the narrative.
As for the staged question ie..re playing an interview to Kirri Alan, (from the day before), in which Melissa read 5 ‘yes’/or/ ‘no’ answer questions to a ‘business person’ from Queenstown, which just, coincidentally, so happened to be Erica Stanford’s immigration policy suggestions. Followed by Erica Stanford’s faux surprise at the questions mirroring National Party policy. The whole show is a joke and not in a funny way.
It is so vacuous, so staged and sooo brainless. I don’t know what Melissa is doing there, but if she wants to have a long career as a serious journalist she should get out before she loses all credibility by hanging out with that lot. There is always a price to pay when selling one’s self to the devil !!
We used to see exactly the same thing from that dreadful Paul Henry years ago on one of the breakfast shows ..usually going into bat along side the equally dreadful Paula Bennett up against an out numbered Labour Party MP..
Two against one again! That’s fair isn’t it ??
Kathryn Ryan on Radio N.Z is another one that springs to mind. It’s usually her talking over the top of the person from the left and then arguing alongside the person from the right.
Overall, these ‘panel discussions’ end up being a farce and more often than not no more that a party political broadcast for the National Party .
Well she isn’t wrong there will be another million citizens and no way to pay for it all just go look at Kiwiblog none of them learned their lesson from the last election.
Another million citizens into N.Z., 650,000 want to live and work in Auckland.
Pretty sure the motorway will cope?
Sorry for the quote from 2011.
Why are NZers so stupid?
I reckon it must be all that milk. It’s made us stolid, easily pushed around and easy to milk money from!
If we had drunk more coffee earlier in the 20th century and dropped down on the tea, we might not have sat down for a cuppa’ tea – probably adding milk. The tea came at an early development in our thinking, and diluting the milk effect, but not until high speed water-filtered coffee to get us vibrating at the right level to get our stopped atomic clock going. I humbly offer this answer to the rhetorical question.
I rate both Erica and Kiri. But this was a hands down victory for Erica on this issue. The policy is a dog and you could see that Kiri Was forced into defending something she well knows is a dog. In saying that she did handle it well but I felt sorry for her being in a position like this.
I think they both have big futures ahead of them.
Agree
Any immigrant who wants to come to NZ is obviously just desperate to leave where they are. People with options would not choose to live in a country where a wooden shed costs over 1 million dollars.
She’s a feisty one, Ms Stanford. And does her homework. Ms Allan has her work cut out to keep her in order. And whinging, whining Willis should watch her back – Ms S might be making an impression LOTO! …
Bridge is a downright right winger rootin for the NATZ. He should be neutral and treat both parties equally instead of taking the am show over as a political party broadcast. He always gives his friend Chris plenty of air time. He has turned into a conservative boring tory nerd – he needs to let his hair down, reinstate his man bun, ditch his ties and be more outgoing.
Through listening to podcasts on ThePlatform I know there are over 400 nurses which were let go due to being ‘unvaccinated’ and many more nurses left on their own accord to avoid the disciplinary-process/deregistration.
I don’t know Australia’s policy on ‘unvaccinated’ nurses, but given the opportunity to work ‘unvaccinated’ in Australia or be unemployed in NZ – surely they’d choose Australia?
Also many overseas nurses which ARE ‘vaccinated’ might not wish to be forced to take additional shots, and as such NZ would be too high risk. It would seem the NZ Nursing Profession DO NOT want any ‘unvaccinated’ nurses back either.
So the remaining nurses are of course under pressures, yet another reason to avoid nursing in NZ, which is actually really sad for such a noble profession.
If I find the interview on The Platform I’ll link to it via a reply.
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