Dear complaining Country Calender Farmers – you don’t understand the term ‘woke’

1. Another example of the simmering anger boiling up to the surface. The rural seats in 2023 are going to be a bloodbath for Labour.

   We are now not far away from the US in regarding to the lines being drawn between different groups in society.

   This is our Glorious Leader’s legacy. Despite the hoopla now – history is not going to be kind to Ardern.

   • You are about as wrong as wrong can be. Most , (but not all), farmers like to whine even if it’s criticizing each other.
     The weather’s never right ….
     There’s either too much sun and not enough rain…too much rain – not enough sun….it’s too hot …too cold.

     Some borrowed way too much money to exploit the white gold fever running at fever pitch and that Cindy needs to do something about it !!! ..or else !!

     Cindy won’t let us tap into the immigrant slave market any more – they need them, because apparently, Kiwi’s are too lazy and don’t want to work despite the unemployment figures being the lowest in history… (go figure)??
     And as for putting solar panels on our barn rooves to run an electric vehicle off the power to save money idea…. faaark that loopy greenie sandel wearing hippy dreadlocked shit talk… they can stick that idea up their dope smoking bong pipe… Cindy’s got a lot to answer for talking to that lot!!
     Cindy this !!! Cindy that!! That pretty little communist needs to sort it out …otherwise .. otherwise she won’t get our vote again..

   • When did Labour ever landslide the rurals anyway?

2. I’d say virtue signaling rich prick privilege is a great thing to be angry about.
   Genuine question for you Mr Bradbury, can woke be right wing? I know it’s a little off beam but I’m interested to know.

   • @ Leftorium “Can woke be right wing?”
     Culturally No, Economically Yes (kind of)

     No culturally
     Woke descends from neomarxism, takes tools of post-modernism and is an everyday or street version of Critical Theory. Ideologically and philosophically it is identitarianism that is left wing.
     Right-wing identitarianism manifests in movements that preach supremacy. That is not in any way related to Woke which preaches equity (not equality). One can argue horseshoe theory between supremacy and equity in specific cases.

     Yes economically by indifference
     Woke typically ignores economic or class issues that cannot be framed as downstream of identity. Instead it favours a narrow identity based equity politics. This makes it is incredibly easy to ‘game’ the system which leads to virtue theatre, a kind of anti-politics where advancing anyone who is not male/cis/white/heterosexual feels highly progressive. In the meantime the underlying structures of neoliberal power remain unaffected. So in this sense woke is completely compatible with neoliberal economic policies. It also dominates in the zeitgeist and fashion choices of the cultural and economic elite.
     https://robkhenderson.substack.com/p/luxury-beliefs-are-like-possessions

     • Good summary Tui and interesting as well, if somewhat definitive.

       • Thanks

     • Ooo you are good Tui.
       Spot on.

3. So the farmers don’t like change what’s new this group have had too much power, there way and too much say for far too long. We are still a very patriarchal country, we also have race relation issues AND huge inequalities. But those with all the power don’t want to share it and they don’t like change unless it was their idea and they implemented it, in the meantime the rest of us are expected to comply and shut the fuck up.

   • Actually, Covid I dont think we are very patriarchal at all if you compare us to many countries.

     We have always been conservative and slow to change and apt to dig our heels in when others force change on us, especially when we werent consulted.

     Hence the Co Governance issues we are having. Many support some element of co-governance but they dont support doing away with democracy. The plight of indigenous people is changing worldwide but no-one else is looking at this model because it almost certainly wont work. And now because the government, has done this by stealth they have quite possibly set back Maori/Tau Iwi unity by a decade or so.

     The main power base in this country driving absolutely everything is Money, whether its Tribal Money or good old rapacious whites and others.

     Rogernomics killed Maori development. Maori were left in an absolute hole apart from the wealthy tribalists. Maori grew rightly more and more disgruntled, then they got sold the line that separate development and equity would solve it. When its a class issue, cultural considerations notwithstanding. If we dealt with the fundamentals like education and housing, Maori and all the others would have a far greater shot at success. Then we could look at what else needs to be done and what the sticking points are.

     Simon Bridges Dad in the 70’s was a qualified Auditor/Accountant and his Mum was a poor Maori barmaid.
     Bridges ended up where he was for a number of different reasons but the fact that his Dad was educated and was born at the right time is in part due to his Mum’s commitment and in part being due to effectively free higher education and plenty of state housing.

4. I’d love the woke to go farming and fruit picking so they can get their white/brown/other privilege hands dirty.

   Bets on, that the woke will be too tired to cancel some female author’s fictional dog, after waking up at 4am, 7 days a week and working 80 hrs a week for 10 plus years.

   Likewise the $600 less tax for 8 hours+ of fruit picking and going back to your caravan @ $200 p/w.

   How will the little wokie daaarlings get their gween GST off their fruit, if there no fruit – because nobody is expected to do a hard day’s labour in their latte, avo smash, mentally traumatised, lives to pick the f**king fruit?

   • Yes a bit if Xi down on the farm would help the wokies wake the fuck up.

5. Farmers whole being is to exploit. If they are not exploiting the land, they are exploiting the animals. If they are not exploiting the animals they are exploiting foreign humans. They only know selfishness.

   • Blert you are clearly an idiot who doesn’t know farming. If you are a vegan activist, unless you grow all your own food, you are turning a bling eye to the billions of small creatures killed to harvest soy or other vegetables instead.
     *If a farmer exploits the land and destroys the soil, there is no farm. Farming more than anything is tending the soil.
     *If a farmer exploits his/her/their animals, productivity is less and they go broke – starved or maltreated animals don’t reproduce, produce meat or milk as well as those well cared for.

6. Hahaha I wondered how long the DB would take to run with this item.
   Just finished shearing our e-we,s and wool is worth SFA anyway so just sweep the first halve dozen fleeces down the porthole , I find this works better than those sleepyhead mattresses and have found that our sheep prefer to listen to AC/DC rather than concert fm classical stuff. Each to there own I guess.

   • I bet they’d love reruns of Supernatural as well!

7. Some farmers saw something so upsetting in that episode of Country Calendar they turned it off? After three minutes? So much for farmers being hardy souls. What a wimpy, blinkered, weak, need to ‘get-a-life’ attitude.
   I wonder how the hell they handle a bit of wet weather, droughts, low prices and all the usual other vagaries of farming.

   • They handle it just fine as taxpayers prop them up.

8. Farmers are a powerful lobbying group and I do like meat, my father was a butcher but when many NZers cant afford meat that is wrong.

   • And dairy even more so. I cant understand why the argument ‘this is what we get for it overseas’ is still being flogged as the transport costs add on hugely to the price but they have been saying the same thing for the last 35 years.

     Again a lot of this comes down to the National Govt greenlighting Fonterra monopoly and successive governments supporting Turner and Growers and supermarket duopolies. Money, money, money. We used to have numerous successful dairy Co’s in this country and reasonable dairy prices in country.

     • Deregulation toppled those successes Fantail, why? As you say…money money money!

       • Add to that and to use National’s and English’s low wage economy theory, the profit margins were wider.
         In fact a lot of similar industries, car assembly, timber and including meat were able to thrive because those whom failed to reach school certificate standard were able to be employed ,but, at the lowest possible wage.

     • Fantail it was Labour that created the Fonterra monopoly.

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