Comrades
I have no time for these lunatic protestors- they’re a collection of insane Facebook hate algorithms looking for a book burning – BUT economic mandates are hurting them most and they have a right to protest – even if the protest is angry and offensive, but right now Trev has thrown a temper tantrum and put out a 10 hour live stream recruitment video for every anarchist with a grudge – he’s radicalising this to a dangerous level and only extreme police violence will remove them BECAUSE OF HIS ACTIONS!
This is the Speaker of the House playing petty dictator psychological games with a mob he is inflaming – WHERE THE FUCK ARE THE ADULTS?
Why is this moron with anger management issues still allowed to start a riot???
Jesus wept – when will he start playing screaming rabbits on loop! This is bordering on psychological torture now – why the fuck is the tantrum throwing man child with a long history of anger management issues still being allowed to keep provoking things?
The question every Labour Party apologist defending Trev’s insanity on Twitter must ask themselves is this – what level of Police violence do you support to force these lunatics he’s radicalised off the lawn?
Watching Woke Twitter cheer his provocation and senseless radicalization of this is jaw dropping!
Remember – on NZ Tribal Left Twitter – IT IS NEVER TREV’S FAULT!
Trev could order the Police to taser children and set dogs on old people right now and NZ Tribal Left Twitter would blame the protestors for having children and knowing old people!
I never thought I’d ever get to the stage in NZ politics where I was holding back the Left from calling on the the State to smash their fellow citizen – I always thought that was a threat from the Right!
If you are on the Left and see no issues with what Trev’s actions are creating, you are part of the problem!
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Be interesting to know what Ardern is doing right now. Some would say she is packing her bags for a last trip in the limelight
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/127756386/ardern-set-to-give-harvards-coveted-graduation-speech-in-may
Some would say she is an incoherent mess and not able to gain her composure to deal with the problem as a leader should.
If this protest turns sour, will Harvard still want her to lecture them? Will Biden be an incoherent mess by May? Will two incoherent messes make sense of anything?
Where is Ardern? Will she be at work today? Is she working on her Harvard speech and seeing how many times the “comrade” reference can be included in said speech?
I think the left really needs to question the Ardern leadership and her control over the bovver boy.
Any minute now, Jacinda is doomed, is all the hope that encompass the National Party’s right to rule. The epitome of failing upwards.
Jacinda is on ‘ Morning Report’ at last, at last, at last, expressing concern for the children subjected to the speaker’s petty and damaging bullying. Good to see that Jacinda is still concerned about children after all.
Jacinda is on ‘ Morning Report’ saying government isn’t attempting to speak with the protestors because they don’t seem to her to be the sort of people who would want to speak, so government won’t even try to.
Jacinda is saying Go home people, Go home, You really don’t want to to talk so go home, take your children with you. Think of the Children like I do because I am the biggest virtue signaller of them all when I am out of my depth; Go home because this government doesn’t do different, we’re only programmed to do same old.
Trevor is not the problem. The problems are the measures used to combat this crisis,chief among them – mandates – that have cost workers their jobs. Secondary is the division and discrimination of the former team of five million.
We allow any of this stand, then we enable a world of hurt to fall upon “all” of us thereafter. This is just the start. We allow the corridors of power, one tool, two tools, several tools to help them push policy over us…then you all know what that leads to!
and labour created and implemented those measures.
Care to compare what other countries have done? Nz has followed suit mostly, and we’ve done very well to prevent multiple deaths
Morning Daryl, I think it’s really too early to state that the policies implemented in NZ have saved multiple lives – there are many studies emerging clearly showing that we may have just reallocated death from the old and sick towards those with preventable illnesses if the latter are caught early which of course they weren’t as all the hospitals were in lockdown. Then there’s the tsunami of mental health issues still to deal with let alone the harm we have done and control do to our children.
As for comparisons, yes many other western countries followed similar approaches however outside of Victoria in Oz and China I am not aware of any other countries taking such a hardline approach to their citizens.
It would be great to see Labour acknowledge the hurt and suffering across NZ by sharing their view of a pathway forward out of lockdowns, mandates and what have you.
We can’t and won’t live like this forever although I think there are many who have become addicted to the power the pandemic has afforded them.
Will mandates be required once Omicron has ripped through NZ? I’d say no as what purpose would they serve? So what’s next and when?
Imagine if you can, Jacinda addressing the concerns of many not just those protesting by clearly stating that once we have reached an agreed point NZ will begin the process of dismantling all of these punitive restrictions (here’s a comparison) like so many other nations are now doing?
The protest would end, there and then.
It won’t happen though as there is no plan and never has been other than to lock us all up.
The world has accepted COVID and is living with it. We all need to do the same.
The hospitals were not all in lockdown. Globally you can just as easily point out the numerous examples ( think USA) of people being prevented care for other illness because the hospitals were full of stubborn individuals who had a good chance of not being in hospital…. if they got bloody vaccinated.
“The world has accepted COVID and is living with it. We all need to do the same.”
Lols. The world had acceptance of Covid forced upon it, no choice in the matter.
Often poor decision making in otherwise well resourced nations has resulted in millions of avoidable deaths. Not so NZ.
New Zealand has thus far arguably performed better at protecting its citizens and systems from death and disruption than any other developed nation. It is a success story already. Celebrate it.
NZ is not facing an epidemic of the same disease strains that have earlier ripped across the planet. We have already prevented that. The past two years we have enjoyed a level of relatively anxiety free freedom which has been the envy of the world.
The situation remains unstable. Although the probability that we have seen the worst of the corona trains is reasonable it is not a certainty and things can change rapidly, note that Omicron has only been known for 3 and a half months.
The infants screaming at parliament this week don’t know how lucky they are.
Labour are merely following orders (from their capitalist rulers). National would do the same, but of course, with a bit more sympathy towards the upper middle class and above and a lot less sympathy to those below.
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Mandates are protecting our children and sick by keeping unvaccinated people from looking after them .I know I know they can still be infectious and pass it on but I believe it will be a milder form…
The mandates have given us a chance to sort out some of the bad apples that put themselves before others and could have past this selfish attitude on to our children .Society will be better in the long run with these teachers gone.
Children don’t need protecting. They have less chance of dying from Covid than they do from the flu. And the sick, the sick shouldn’t be at school, especially in this age of super safety. And the mandates aren’t meant to sought people out, nonetheless, I think you are giving the game away in regards to their true purpose!
Its either mandate or thousand will die just like many other countries who still have thousands dying daily.
Now the tools our government has used have been both necessary and effective other wise we would have a lot more than 53 deaths by now. And one death is one too many and then there is the social and economic impact for many whanau.
The irony of course is the speaker could set dogs on the protesters and the PM wouldn’t do a thing. Let’s face it there hasn’t been a larger disgrace in NZ politics than Mallard’s last 2 years.
As for the PM – spare a thought shall we. The crafted narrative is coming crumbling down. When the peasants realize there is NOTHING left in reserve for the impending economic crisis then the parliamentary protest will be small fry. In the interim poor man’s Gordon Brown is playing checkers on a chess board unaware the tide has turned.
Beg to differ, Frank, but Mallard’s last two years, are the lesser disgrace compared to National’s dirty politics chronicled by Nicky Hager. Mallard’s idiocy has been more public, played from a balcony, like Shakespeare gone horribly horribly wrong, the Nat’s operate more at gutter level, Greens and Maori a self-preening circus. There’s no-one home down in Parliament.
So to use an analogy – Mallard is a 2yr old flinging shit around the playroom whereas Key’s National was the Head Prefect smoking joints in the garage when the parents are out.
I have to say I very much like that.
Oh and I agree with your last sentence
Yes, think David Carter and insert the word corrupt anywhere.
I heard the PM on the Nat radio this morning going on about the kids at the protest.
Ah the PM the minister of child poverty, the woman who got into politics because of child poverty, the woman who has done next to nothing about child poverty. Dear me worried about the kids at the protest.
The woman is a sham.
I have no problem with those outside parliament. Many of them simply disaffected Kiwis on a range of things. let them be they will leave eventually. Sure tow away their vehicles.
Having demonstrated literally hundreds of times in my life I am absolutely in support of that right. It is anti the mandate as it should be, not as Ardern has tried to turn it into anti vax.
Wow! There are some excellent comments in this thread.
Since elected Ardern and Labour has been nothing but poison to our society. So far she’s attacked:
>Farmers for being “dirty dairy” when they’re the economic mainstay of the country
>Fuel companies for putting the price of petrol up when it was she who increased taxes
>Landlords for providing a service, when it was she who has driven up the price of rentals
>Supermarkets for being a duopoly when it was her lockdown rules that gifted them that
>OK Boomers for daring to exist
>Tradies and farmers because they dare to drive diesel powered work vehicles (not that she has an alternative. Under 6% of government vehicles are EVs)
>White people in general because apparently everything in history is somehow our fault
>People who refuse to be vaccinated, forcing them out of jobs and public places despite having previously promised to end restrictions once we reached 90%
>Kiwis overseas who have a right of return under the Human Rights Act
At what point will you all wake up and stop supporting Team Red? As someone quite correctly pointed out further up in the comments, the Left has a 100 years of blood on its hands so this sort of behaviour is somewhat typical.
Andrew, I think that I’ll have to print off your list as well, and wave it around at election meetings next year. There’s another comment, on another thread, which I’ll also print.
Gee mate get down to the shop and get a brain flush and a reset, you seem awfully confused!
Agree Martyn, when this started, I had little time for the antivaxxers on the basis their choices risked others lives although I agreed with their right not to be vaxxed. Then we saw what was happening to real people and its effects, intended and unintended.
Omicron came and we saw that the fundamentals changed but the government kept bringing out more and more hare brained systems of phases, levels and traffic lights. No-one really gets it anymore and the government has gone full on propaganda with Ardern saying the protesters have imported their ideas or backing and by insinuation, arent really NZers.
Child endangerment etc – anything except genuinely engage or consider the morality of what is happening. Like Verall and Poto before him, Mallard is lined up to take the heat whilst Ardern who is in charge of this CF, keeps her hands clean.
I’ll say it again – This is not a labour government, it has various agendas, many unstated but they have nothing to do with socialist democracy and everything to do with imposing its agenda on NZ to the detriment of our society and its people.
Worth noting, due to recent money laundering laws, DIA registers all payments of a certain level coming in from offshore so if it is really true that this ‘uprising’ is being funded by shadowy forces offshore then they should be able to find the evidence to back up their claims. Counterspin? sharing a free speech platform with Alex Jones does not a conspiracy make.
Zombi unreasonable about the government and Omicron. Sitting on the fence watching the herd mill round making wisecracks as to how we should all be handled is your strong point perhaps. God help us if we need real strength of mind and commitment in NZ.
We have to think our way out of things more and not just sit on the sidelines criticising government. We need changes to gummint definitely, perhaps starting with limited terms, say 3×3. No lifetime sinecures, growing fat on the job. Let them fix themselves up with an outside job while they are still reasonably young.
As for the moral on the wall – I like Lord Rutherford’s approach, both of these are good –
“Gentlemen, we have run out of money. It’s time to start thinking.”
and
“We haven’t got the money, so we’ll have to think”
― Ernest Rutherford
“She will get the cops to go in hard!”
The cops will do what the cops are going to do. Rest assured Jacinda will be distancing herself from any and all decisions that can be spun as ‘operational matters’ Even the in-secret chinese whispers between politicians and senior public servants aren’t going to work this time.
I’d take bets on who it will be that gets thrown under the bus, but I’m not into gambling (It’s moi roit).
Dont be silly. Hate speech is whatever the Govt says it is and pesky things like Noise abatement laws and sprinkler bans dont apply when they occur on government land. Some animals are more equal and all that.
Man who dance on head of pin get prick up bum instead of in shoulder – Sun Tzu
The only way you’d be surprised by this is if you’ve had your head in the sand.
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