NZs sudden radicalisation + who poses a bigger threat to Democracy? AntiVaxxers or The Spinoff & their woke commentariat?

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I’m not being facetious with the title.

I’m being serious.

The sudden radicalization within NZ politics that TDB has been pointing out for some time has exploded across the spectrum and is now a mainstream talking point.

The fact that a hard right Party like ACT are currently on 17% is the 10000 pound albino gorilla in the room which the woke won’t mention for fear of alienating an overweight pigment challenged mammal.

ACTs policies are so fucking far right that they endlessly fly in circles.

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Let’s remind ourselves of ACTs more crazy shit…

  • Cut and freeze the Minimum wage
  • Interest back on all student loans
  • No Kiwsaver subsidy
  • Cancel winter energy payment
  • Dump all climate crisis legislation
  • no more best start payments for families with new borns
  • cut welfare payments
  • no tax credits for research and development
  • cuts to working for families
  • $7b a year cut in public services
  • Abolish Maori seats
  • Abolish Human Rights Commission

…THAT is getting 17%!

Sweet Zombie Jesus.

ACTs stratospheric rise in the polls started – LIKE I FUCKING WARNED IT WOULD – when the bloody woke identity politics activists went on their deplatforming rampage and tried to strangle free speech off.

In the end, David invited a feminist conference onto Parliament grounds because Masey Uni in Wellington deplatformed it!

The woke ended up making David a free speech hero FFS!

I warned the woke at the time that all they were doing was giving ACT the ammunition ACT would later use against us, and that picking a free speech fight with Seymour could awaken a dormant electoral fault line that will bite us in the arse.

Once ACT started registering 2MPs, it became a viable political vehicle for the Gun festishists and David’s ongoing performance has made him the de facto Leader of the Opposition.

As National have floundered, ACT have looked stronger and people’s gut political values have done the rest.

Thanks to social media algorithms of hate we are locked into echo chambers that are endlessly radicalizing.

Almost every single splinter group has become radicalized by the 90% double vaccination threshold.

The Vaccinated:

  • Angry Double vaxxed Good Citizens in Auckland & Good Buggers in South Island –  They have done what they were asked, they have sacrificed and now they want their lives back. Being told they can’t because morons don’t want to be vaccinated is going down about as well as a cup of cold sick. You can’t get angry at these people and painting their frustration out as racist will hurt the Left at the election. The unfairness of continuing to lose your liberty under de facto house arrest because Liz Gunn thinks vaccinations are raping Gaia makes this group ripe for radicalisation.
  • Small Business – These are people who for the first time in their lives feel economically vulnerable. They have haemorrhaged cash because of the lockdown and are on the verge of collapse. Economic hardship will see many blame Jacinda while seeing her only helping gangs. They are also ripe for radicalisation.
  • The Woke – If you honestly think like the Maori Party that this is modern genocide, all violence is justified.

The Unvaccinated:

  • Qanon Anti-vaxx lunatics – Will see the vaccination passports as a vast erosion of their civil rights and that measure will dangerously radicalize this fringe. If you honestly believe Jacinda is the same as Nazi Germany, any violence becomes permissible.
  • Crystal Karens – These are the middle class new age conspiracy clique who will become culturally ostracised by the vaccine passports. If you believe like Liz Gunn does, that the vaccine is raping Gaia to the point that the Earth Mother Goddess is starting earthquakes then any violence is justified.
  • Jesus is my vaccine fanatics – They will see Bishop Brian Tamaki’s prosecution as persecution and see end of days symbolism at every turn. The passport will be framed as the number of the beast. If Jacinda is the antiChrist then any violence is acceptable.

The speed of the radicalization has been driven by the desperation of Covid mixed with fear and rage.

This radicalisation has created an alternate reality on the right and we saw that in Wellington this week, but this alternate reality has also been a feature of the Left.

Post me too we had to believe anything anyone said on social media. We had to BELIEVE women. There was no longer objective truth, there was only subjective truth because due process is a heteronormative white cis male privilege and if someone questioned that they were a rapist.

The bewildering venom of the Trans debate and the demand that everyone else be forced to accept an identity subjectively defined by the individual and must never be challenged or you were canceled.

The demand for protection from micro aggressions and trigger free safe spaces.

The identity politics left is as radicalized and operating in their own dimension of reality as much as the feral right.

This deplatforming woke cancel culture is touched on in Bryce Edwards latest blog detailing the wokes attempt to cancel him!

TDB has been warning about this for sometime, that a culture backlash has been building against woke social engineering and that because Identity Politics and not class is the dominant philosophical schism within the Left, we are intellectually too weak to challenge the economic hegemony of neoliberalism and instead pick the low hanging fruit of identity.

This loss of class solidarity is causing the political spectrum to rapidly collapse.

I’m here to tell you that the radicalization in NZ politics is only going to get more extreme.

Who poses a bigger threat to Democracy? AntiVaxxers or The Spinoff & their woke commentariat?

If you look at Toby Manhire’s latest sermon at Spinoff or anything written on Stuff, you immediately see where the woke are now moving in response to the feral protest in Wellington.

While they all acknowledge that there was no actual violence at Parliament (at one point when the protestors knocked over the fence they politely put it back up again), they all focus on the language and hate speech that they believe is an immediate indicator of violence.

Now while I certainly believe there is a growing danger of a political assassination attempt against Jacinda and I have blogged about this, I see that as a lone lunatic from the ever growing number of radicalized individuals going troppo.

The woke will use this feral language as their prime justification for the hate speech law debate next year and argue the only way to stop this feral radicalization is to criminalize the speech.

The woke will re-enter the debate next year empowered with the self belief that if they just criminalize the speech of the right we can all be safe.

Their zeal and cult like identity politics dogma will enrage the right and the debate next year will become violent.

The solution of course is to penalize the social media networks themselves, not criminalize the toxic rantings of sad fuckwits.

Unfortunately there are no more adults left on the left to drive that as the solution.

In 1000 Years of Joys and Sorrows, Chinese artist and activist Ai Weiwei explores the dangers of cultural dogma…

Under the pressure to conform, everyone sank into an ideological swamp of “criticism” and “self-­criticism.” My father repeatedly wrote self-­critiques, and when controls on thought and expression rose to the level of threatening his very survival, he, like others, wrote an essay denouncing Wang Shiwei, the author of “Wild Lilies,” taking a public stand that went against his inner convictions.

Situations such as this occurred in Yan’an in the 1940s, occurred in China after 1949, and still occur in the present day. Ideological cleansing, I would note, exists not only under totalitarian regimes—­it is also present, in a different form, in liberal Western democracies. Under the influence of politically correct extremism, individual thought and expression are too often curbed and too often replaced by empty political slogans.

…and Edward Snowden warns…

From the time I began studying China’s quest to intermediate the information space of its domestic internet, as part of my classified work at the NSA, I’d experience an unpleasant spinal tingle whenever I came across a new report indicating that the United States government, was, piece by piece, building out a similar technological and political infrastructure, using similar the justifications of countering terrorism, misinformation, sedition, and subjective “social harms.” I don’t want to be misunderstood as saying “East” and “West” were, or are, the same; rather, it is my belief that market forces, democratic decline, and a toxic obsession with “national security”—a euphemism for state supremacy—are drawing the US and China to meet in the middle: a common extreme. A consensus-challenging internet is perceived by both governments as a threat to central authority, and the pervasive surveillance and speech restrictions they’ve begun to mutually embrace will produce an authoritarian center of gravity that over time will compress every aspect of individual and national political differences until little distance remains. 

If you thought getting people to take a vaccination was hard, wait till you tell them you will take away their free speech.

We ain’t seen nuthin yet.

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105 COMMENTS

  1. Wait till the cost of milk, bread and butter increase 15%; petrol is $3.50 a litre and you need a loan to buy a new pair of shoes by the second quarter. Then Beetroot panics as his legacy is on life support and raises interest rates by 0.25% month-on-month.

    • All those increases and under ACT you”ll have less money in your hand to pay for them. Go figure. No wonder Seymour wanted a euthanasia bill!

  2. I am one of those people who are rejecting labour and the Greens due to their adoption of gender ideology. I have lost my respect for people who uncritically accept a relatively new ideology and stretch scientific truth and material reality to an extent it defies belief.

    The behaviour of the women MPs at the Select committee on BDMRR and conversion practices was unprofessional and downright rude. I will never forget one MP being both rude and patronising to a 17 year old school boy who had shown great courage in presenting. It was a great presentation, but either way, the way she treated him was shameful. We should be encouraging youth to participate in democracy.

    I am politically homeless now and my vote is up for grabs. One policy of Acts I do spport is cutting gst to 10%.

    But Martyn you are right there will be an almighty backlash against wokedom…it’s coming

    • Good on you Anker. Adults dumping on adolescents at Select Committee is appalling behaviour, and unacceptable in polite society at any level. Rude bastards.The Chair should not have allowed it. Who was the Chair ?

      The child bullying starts young in New Zealand. Preschooler came home last week quoting, “ Don’t argue with me “. Good teachers are delighted when children can or do voice their own opinions, and wee pre-schoolers doing so can be quite lovely, and should at least be listened to. All these put-downs disadvantage our young folk, who have always been less articulate than their counterparts elsewhere.

      I agree with you about the Greens and gender – very generalising, often plain wrong, damaging, playing the victim game and probably obsessive. I quit the Greens though, because I think they’re socially divisive, and I think that Marama Davidson is the most racist politician I can recall, worse than-you- know-who who negates good policies with his racism – and the less that I say about her/ it/him/them the better – but I also think that she’s a bit thick too, and not the best on New Zealand history either.

      • It was the Chair person who was rude and patronising, Ginny Anderson.

        I heard that the young man, a student of New Plymouth Boys High, went way doubting himself after her response. Fortunately he got quite a lot of support I hear.

        • Anker. Thanks. Ginny Anderson ? The actual Chair ? Her name barely registers with me, but I assume that she’s a Labour MP emulating little Bill English in sticking it to our young guys, which I will never forgive him for either – I believe that he also treats the supermarket check-outers with a complete lack of grace. Shame on the tawdry pair of them.

        • Anker. Second reply. I just went to research Andersen, and I see that she has four children. English has six. Dunno what’s happening here, but something’s very wrong when parents dump on other people’s youngsters, especially so
          publicly.

          • English is (Catholic?) Christian. “Go forth and multiply”. Dunno if GA is the same. Either way, poor performance re the student

          • So is Julian Assange, apparently, so what’s your beef? Far-right “christians” eg inclusive bretheren, detest catholic ‘worldies’ and consider all ‘worldies’ fair game, so maybe you could do some research.

          • Religion may have nothing to do with it. Having lots of kids might though, but that’s still no excuse for trashing other people’s offspring who may be perfectly ok.

    • I agree, Anker. It is very dispiriting to see female politicians actively and aggressively participating in the dismantling of women’s hard won legal rights, protections and services.

      I also have stopped voting Green, and won’t be voting Labour either in future because although they have managed the pandemic pretty well til now, the increasing issues are based in long-standing inequalities, and the dire state of NZ’s public health system. The current government have done nothing to improve this system, just rearranged the deck chairs with the centralisation of the system.

      I am considering voting Social Credit in future, as a protest vote and because, at least they strongly support public services e.g. the improvement in our health system.

      A lot of the left (especially many men) talk of ‘class’ as though economic class inequalities are the only class issues the left should attend to. But sex is also a material (biological) class and women have been oppressed for thousands of years based on their sex class- as Engels said, women were the first exploited class. Humans are a sex-dimorphic species. People are male or female in utero (apart from a very minuscule minority who do not have an identifiable reproductive system) – sex cannot be changed, only some of the external characteristics, while there are diverse ways of being males or females

      Women and girls have obtained some rights, protections and services through rule of law – though they have always fallen short of truly changing the system to enable full equality. #metoo was always a useful, though inadequate way of flagging up the abuse and humiliation large numbers of women experience. But it was always an individualistic movement, led by some women with a bit more status/power than most. The backlash from genderists is now in full swing, to dismantle the legal gains females have achieved.

      And the women and girls who will suffer most will be those with least power: low income women, homeless women, single mothers, the too many vulnerable women in prison, Māori and Pasifika women, lesbians, disabled women…etc.

      Meanwhile, many of the women with most power and status are actively supporting male-created genderism over women as a sex-class – women who have benefited most from the hard won legal gains for females.

    • Both myself and my wife are also politically homeless and NZ looks to be ripe for a new centrist anti-woke political party (feel free to start one Martyn).

  3. Yes, but the Greens are on 5 – 10% and they want to imprison anyone for getting their pronouns wrong, pushing religious vouchers or complaining about government and any other ‘group’.

    Don’t forget Greens also support filling up the DHB’s with free foreign gender realignment surgeries.

    And support giving pensioners who don’t live in NZ a free NZ pension. (voted against NZ pensions going to 20 years of NZ residency to qualify).

    I also am also concerned about the hypocrisy of Greens supporting period poverty, but failing to worry about period poverty for men who don’t menstruate.

    Both ACT and GREENS are now bonkers – they are pretty much the anti vaxxers of politics. While Natz and Labour get on with supporting globalism and predatory capitalism – and since Labour has a kinder face, then they are slightly more popular than Natz who entertain selling off list MP seats for $100k – 2 Chinese are so much more valuable than 2 Indians and Pakeha are fucking useless at sucking the donations in, so all have to go.

    An orangataun ashtray paw with every palm kernel shipment import in exchange for a Kauri swamp log exported, could be an even better marketing message?

    • “An orangataun ashtray paw with every palm kernel shipment import in exchange for a Kauri swamp log exported, could be an even better marketing message?”
      Love it. Spot on.

    • You can also sue the government if your love interest can’t get into NZ during Covid, even though sounds like the sponsor spent most of their working life outside of NZ and now just comes to NZ, and uses this to apply for their love interest to also come to NZ during Covid. https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2021/07/immigration-minister-kris-faafoi-sued-by-auckland-university-professor-separated-from-his-husband-in-china-for-a-year.html

      Note even if the love interest breaks up shortly afterwards as in this case, the love interest gets to stay in NZ.

      “A New Zealand man does not have to pay a $212,000 dowry to his ex-wife after the High Court ruled United Arab Emirates marriage laws did not apply here.

      United Arab Emirates woman Rahla Almarzooqi had her appeal to enforce a $212,095 Islamic Sharia Law marriage dowry her husband signed in 2013 thrown out in the New Zealand High Court on March 18.

      Both Almarzooqi and her ex-husband Rafid Salih first met on an online Islamic dating site in 2010 when Almarzooqi was living in Australia and Salih was living in New Zealand.

      In 2013, Almarzooqi visited Salih in New Zealand and the pair embarked on a relationship.

      In December that year they were married in Dubai in accordance with Islamic/Sharia law.

      Their contract of marriage, the Nikah, dictated by an order of the Dubai court, that Salih would pay Almarzooqi a “prompt dowry” of about NZ$12,725 at the commencement of the marriage and a “deferred dowry” [the Mahr] of about NZ$212,095 on the earlier of their divorce or his death.

      Yet by May 2014, Almarzooqi and Salih had separated after living together in New Zealand for a period.Almarzooqi returned to Dubai in December 2015 to apply for a divorce which was “properly served” to Salih in New Zealand, according to the High Court judgment.

      Almarzooqi and Salih both currently live in New Zealand. Almarzooqi is a citizen of the United Arab Emirates and has residency status in New Zealand. Salih is an Iranian and New Zealand citizen.”

      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/high-court-rules-nz-man-doesnt-have-to-pay-212000-dowry-to-ex-wife/LAYMR4OGA66NW2K7KWYA64WO5Q/?&ref=recommended

      Quick we need more lawyers, judges, justice time and translators into NZ…there is a skill shortage and peoples rights are not being met to understand all the quick marriages and divorces in NZ between people who are meeting online, money exchanging hands, but we all know that whatever happens, everyone can stay in NZ forever!

      Immigration marriage and dowry scams on the rise, says charity
      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12123831

      You can also now sponsor in other aged people you marry at 79 (after being NZ residency yourself under our laws) under our ‘relaxed’ marriage laws for residency and the government seems hopeless to do anything about it.
      https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/376220/10k-11-days-and-one-failed-deportation

      In spite of 75,000 migrant pensioners getting NZ residency, the strain on our aged care and health system and pensions – they reopened the category.
      https://croakingcassandra.com/2019/10/14/reopening-parent-visas/

      The Greens talk a big talk about Maori and Pacific Islanders, but actually seem to be trying to make them more of a minority in NZ.

      The amount of senior Asian NZer’s is expected to be more than the number of aged Maori and Pacific Islander’s combined within a decade and this seems to be government policy via easy immigration avenues and major perks for migrant pensioners coming to NZ.

    • SaveNZ, what does your comment “I also am also concerned about the hypocrisy of Greens supporting period poverty, but failing to worry about period poverty for men who don’t menstruate” actually mean? Can you expand on that please? What period poverty do men who don’t menstruate actually experience? Is it lack of sex on cue? Serious question

      • We have to say pregnant people now, rather than pregnant woman as it is fairer on transgender (men to woman) as even thought they can’t get pregnant (even in woke wonderland and media reporting) we pretend that they can. BUT the argument falls short on period poverty as transgender (men to woman) can’t menstruate, so they are putting in a key policy that is discriminating against the transgender community! Hypocrites!

        Policy people (he/himr/she/her) then wonder why people don’t trust government advisors and the media and why there is a rise of anti science when everyone is arbitrary changing things.

        The majority know that only biologicalwoman get pregnant and thus creates confusion on what the F is going on, to those who don’t have a PHD in pronouns and new woke language.

        I couldn’t care a less if someone is transgender or not, but the woke wonderland around this issue and ability to arbitrary change basic information on a whim such as sex from age 16, is alarming. Also anyone pointing this out gets death threats, so it isn’t really very inclusive at all, the opposite. Crazy, Anti vacs territory, government sanctioned. Of course others take this logic up into different areas like anti vaxx, who can blame them?

        • Thanks SNZ. I had not fully grasped how ridiculous that has all become. Strange days indeed. Hopefully the ravages of the virus will provide some motivation for OA/NZ to rethink a lot of this woke bs enmass *fingers, eyes, arms and legs crossed*

    • saveNZ. Agree 100%, the Greens are totally bonkers, possibly the whole lot of them. They function by being diversionary and divisive, but they need to be sent packing pronto because they serve no useful purpose, paid by we, the long-suffering taxpayers of New Zealand – penniless, homeless, genderless, but not clueless.

      ( Even wiseman Gareth Hughes decamped to an island in the middle of Otago Harbour.)

    • There’s nothing to stop LGBTQ activists from having their own political party, but hijacking the Green Party, which used to be a bona fide environmental party, isn’t just morally shabby, but also deprives New Zealanders of a needed voice in the face of the climate change which is impacting right now. There’ll still be punters who wrongly equate the Green Party with eg Green Peace, and vote accordingly.

  4. “TDB has been warning about this for sometime, that a culture backlash has been building against woke social engineering and that because Identity Politics and not class is the dominant philosophical schism within the Left, we are intellectually too weak to challenge the economic hegemony of neoliberalism and instead pick the low hanging fruit of identity.”

    I too, wish the left would start refocusing on economics but it seems they are blind to seeing what is happening and are really committed to identity politics first and foremost.

    • NZ is obsessed with identity politics because it helps neoliberalism, by allowing those who don’t know anything and are not qualified in anything to have an equal say but still be paid the same and more importantly undermine real qualifications.

      So you can (and they have) employed a huge amount of workers who do nothing but think about these things, taking up a lot of time and resources and forcing the more skilled out of the country and workforces.

      By doing this you undermine real skills and knowledge. For example you don’t need to be a nurse now, as nursing assistants and health workers have ‘pay’ parity but are not qualified to the same standards in hospitals and rest homes.

      This means you can keep pretending you have a working health system, keep pretending you have the staff numbers, but be secretly undermining the system.

      The good news for neoliberalism is when it all goes wrong, you have to hire legions of other people who know nothing to write up copious amounts of reports on the situation, that others can go to meeting and contribute to and waste more time and resources.

  5. Thats it Martyn, get it out.
    You can punch a pillow too if it will make you feel better, maybe some comfort puppies?

    Its just a shell game, the same old pharisees are behind the scenes having a laugh.

    Jah Bless!

  6. Polls show housing is a bigger concern than covid to us Kiwis. Though given the news coverage you wouldn’t think so – many are dying due to poor housing.

    TVNZ and NewsHub have fallen. Their ratings have peaked.. it’s all downhill for them now.

    There is very little credibility left in NZ Politics and our MSM is now less informative than Americas.

    Why is Trevor Mallard even still speaker of the house? Give as a break.. ACT is the ‘change-of-direction’ vote, doesn’t matter what their policies are at this point.

  7. Martyn,

    With Kris Faafoi repealing Three Strikes, do you think Sensible Sentencing should be added to the list of groups that could become radicalised?

  8. Perhaps the govt is the biggest risk to our democracy.

    Writing off the views of almost half the population re cannabis.

    Ramming through Three Waters.

    Advocating for mass state surveillance.

    Openly creating a seperate class of people via vaccine mandates.

    Looking to tightly control the movements of the class by bringing in internal border arrangements.

    Looking to criminalize speech.

    Seems the govt is where the danger lies not those that seek to oppose it.

    • Cricklewood
      To get a proper appreciation of the threat of the government, leading to the threat of some future government no better informed or practically intelligent, we must be aware of nuances and not just plaster negative posters over everything.
      ‘Openly creating a seperate class of people via vaccine mandates.
      Looking to tightly control the movements of the class by bringing in internal border arrangements.’

      You are just helping to create a mass of disaffection. It is easy to be brassed off with the direction of governments – over centuries. Use your brain and work out how to differentiate with what is necessary and what is unreasonable.

  9. It will all be fine. The authoritarian left and the authoritarian right will meet in the middle and create a new centre ground for New Zealand politics.

    You won’t like it much. . .

    • After reading your brief dissertation on our political future I went looking for something to smile at.
      I’m Henery the 8th I am. Hermans Hermits all dressed up as per 1960s. Fashions have changed. Maybe today’s approach will change in a few years. Let’s keep hoping.

  10. Who pose a big threat to democracry?
    Well perhaps it is people who are political mercenaries, working for whoever takes their fancy and pads their pocket-book perhaps. There could be a taint of self-interest there, perhaps ‘conflict of interest?
    From Bryce Edwards latest communication. Political Roundup (or is it roundabout) – such fun’ at the park, push, run and choose your moment to jump.)
    Political Roundup: The Government-Lobbying revolving door just keeps on turning
    On Thursday it was announced that the recently departed Green Party Chief of Staff in Parliament, Tory Whanau, has become a lobbyist. She has joined the corporate lobbying group Capital Government Relations, which is headed up by chief lobbyist and political commentator Neale Jones. This latest shift from someone in a top Government role to corporate gun-for-hire indicates that the “revolving door” of vested interests keeps on spinning under the Labour-Green coalition.     (Tory Whanau, interesting name.)

  12. Donald Trump, Peter Thiel and the death of democracy

    In a 2009 essay called The Education of a Libertarian, Thiel declared that capitalism and democracy had become incompatible. Since 1920, he argued, the creation of the welfare state and “the extension of the franchise to women” had made the American political system more responsive to more people – and therefore more hostile to capitalism. Capitalism is not “popular with the crowd”, Thiel observed, and this means that as democracy expands, the masses demand greater concessions from capitalists in the form of redistribution and regulation.

    The solution was obvious: less democracy. But in 2009, Thiel despaired of achieving this goal within the realm of politics. How could you possibly build a successful political movement for less democracy?

    https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/jul/21/peter-thiel-republican-convention-speech

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