IF YOU WANT to understand what’s rotting the Labour Party’s political soul, read Neale Jones’ latest posting on The Spinoff. A really good novelist would struggle to create a more self-characterising narrator than Neale. With refreshing candour, he pours scorn on all the elements of participatory democracy and heaps praise upon the crushing power of the centralised state.
As Chief-of-Staff to both Andrew Little and Jacinda Ardern, we can only assume that Neale ticks all the boxes of the contemporary Labour Partyapparatchik. As the current CEO of the PR/Lobbying firm, Capital Government Relations, it is equally safe to presume that he knows his way around the capital city’s power grid. In short, Jones is the very model of a modern Labour mover-and-shaker.
Which is why we should all be very worried.
Neale’s posting is all about the Wellington City Council’s spatial plan and to what degree it will clear the path for wealthy property developers to bulldoze the capital city’s architectural heritage into a pile of rubble. Not that he puts his case quite that bluntly. Rather than present himself as the friend of soulless high-rise property development, he has cast himself in the role of the poor and downtroddens’ fearless champion. The homeless must have homes, and Neale is adamant that the same beneficent state that gave us Kiwibuild, is going to provide them with shelter from the storm.
And who, do you suppose, is the villain in this local government morality play? That’s right! It is none other than our old friend “Nimby”. Those ageing, selfish, well-heeled, owners of Wellington’s architectural history, whose lovingly maintained homes make Wellington the finely-cut cultural gem New Zealanders so admire. It is these, the not-in-my-backyard Baby Boomer bastards, who have dared to object to the idea of replacing the city’s rich housing heritage with buildings that look like the boxes the buildings that should have been constructed came in.
Worst of all – from Neale’s perspective – Nimby is winning! All these devilish defenders of antique weatherboard and roofing iron; red-brick, stained-glass and ceramic tiles; are defeating the forces of concrete and steel by arming themselves with – of all things! – the instruments and processes of democracy. And, boy! does that make Neale mad.
This is how he describes the way the Wellington City Council’s planning process used to work:
“It’s fair to say that until recently Wellington City Council planning processes had not been a subject of fierce public debate. The council would put out consultation documents, residents’ associations and a few local government anoraks would respond and nothing would ever change. Property values rose regularly, home owners’ views and amenity were protected. Capital gains were leveraged and property portfolios built. From the perspective of home owners, the system appeared to be working well.”
Those “home owners” – just in case you were wondering – comprise the overwhelming majority of Wellington’s ratepayers. So, yeah, the system was working exactly the way democratic theory says it should work.
And, just in case you missed it, note the use of the word “anoraks”. Clearly, any citizen who takes an interest in the life of their city is some sort of sad obsessive; someone urgently in need of getting a life. Isn’t it great to know how Labour’s movers-and-shakers view the active citizen? Apparently, only the CEOs of PR/Lobbying firms are allowed to influence the outcomes of official decision-making processes. CEOs and Big Government. Because Neale was just getting warmed-up with his snide reference to anoraks.
Try this on for size:
“The evidence around the world shows that local government is structurally unable to stand up to nimbyism. Low voter turnout heavily favours existing property owners, leaving councillors too exposed politically. Public consultations are dominated by vested interests: those who suffer the most from housing shortages are the most transient, the least engaged. The answer is for central government to simply force councils to allow more housing.”
Hooo-weee! Ain’t that a doozy? The answer is for central government to simply force councils to allow more housing. Neale wants the full force of the state to be brought to bear against anyone – Nimbies, anoraks and city-councils alike – who dares to get in the way of “the most transient” and “the least engaged”. (Although, if you think about that for a minute, you’d have to question how, in the absence of full-on political organisation, the transient and the least engaged could ever get themselves in a position where anybody needed to get in their way.)
Okay, okay, I know what you’re thinking. Shouldn’t all good socialists be cheering Neale on at this point? Isn’t Labour supposed to be the party that brings the power of the state to the aid of the poor and needy? Well, yes, it surely is. Unfortunately, this Labour Government does not contain the modern day equivalent of John A. Lee, or Mickey Savage, or Peter Fraser. All we’ve got is Phil Twyford, “Jacinda” and Grant Robertson – which isn’t quite the same thing!
No. Neale’s solution has very little to do with the democratic socialism of the 1930s and 40s. The Labour Party of the Twenty-First Century isn’t about organising the poor and the marginalised into a mass political movement capable of taking over city councils and winning majorities in Parliament. It’s about clearing the way for private enterprise to make its profits. And if that means clean-bowling people’s homes to make way for high-rise apartments: dwellings in which you may be very sure the “transient” and “least engaged” will never set foot; then so be it.
I’ll tell you what, though. I could be persuaded to change my mind. If Neale was to give up his CEO’s job at Capital Government Relations, and become a community organiser dedicated to seating the transient and the least engaged at those City Council planning hearings. If he could rope-in the country’s best and most progressive architects to work with the poor and downtrodden in designing the sort of housing they would like to live in. And, if those same poor and downtrodden – now with something to vote for – could be persuaded to cast their ballots for candidates pledged to building those houses. Well, then I would know that Labour’s soul has not rotted away, and that its movers-and-shakers are moving and shaking for somebody other than the rich and powerful.
Otherwise …..
Well said Chris, and about time people faced up to the fact that labour party, like pretty much every other left leaning party across the western world has been co-opted by rich and powerful to adhere to greed – opps forgot the pc word – profit.
Greed, a desire never fulfilled no matter how much you get. A destructive part of our nature, one which so starkly on display by Neale in his post on the spinoff – no matter how much magniloquence he throws at us.
Neale is just another wellington elite that just wants to control and thinks he has all the solutions to everything. He only pretends to care about democracy as long as people vote the way he agrees with.
His focus should be on the failings of the current govt- especially the vaccine roll out abomination.
Adding the unbridled arrogance displayed in todays Labour announcement on their proposed Hate speech legislation, my question is will it be Winston or David Seymour who holds the balance of power at the next election ? Winston wont go with Labour twice & the nightmare scenario for Labour & National is that it both NZF & Act could together form a significant bloc representing the disaffected “deplorables” – who might now be many of us
Great post Chris. Thanks.
As a committee member of a Residents Association here in Auckland I can only agree. On a regular basis now, we’re having to fight proposals from developers that should have been knocked back by the Council’s internal process because they drive a coach & horses through the unitary plan. Why have a unitary plan if it’s going to be ignored?
Often we use our confidential informants within Council to find out about development proposals otherwise the first thing we’d know about them would be the arrival of the piling machine on site. This is because the default position of the Council is too often that developments are ‘non notifiable’.
Typically it’s a ‘Chinese Developer’ who wants to build a monstrous multistory apartment block on a site zoned as ‘single house’ in a quiet street. Sometimes there are mature native trees on the section that are mysteriously poisoned or sawn down, thus allowing for more expansive construction. On one occasion, in Takapuna, there was evidence of bags of cash being offered to neighbours to lubricate the approval process.
My impression is that it’s a case of ‘graft meets ideology’:
1. The left leaning councillors are convinced we need to fill the satellite suburbs with apartment blocks so as to jam more people into them. At the same time they they’re ideologically opposed to the car so refuse to consider the impact of higher density living on traffic and parking (in Auckland one cannot practically survive without a car except if one lives in or very near the CBD ).
2. There is just too much cash, mostly Chinese, floating around the property development business and the Council’s approval process is too opaque. It lends itself to corruption. Some instances of dodgy behaviour we have observed should have prompted internal investigations and the fact that there were none makes me think that cash is being spread far & wide…
Satellite cities perhaps instead Andrew, where properly scaled infrastructure can be executed?
That’s one option. The UK did it back in the 60’s and it worked: Milton Keynes and Corby.
Large cities eventually develop into conurbations and in the case of Auckland, because of its geography, it will naturally and inevitably turn into a string of connected centres from Wellsford to Huntly. Where people live, work and play while rarely if ever needing or wanting to travel to the CBD.
But for the moment a turnout of 32% in local government elections is not real democracy and is enabling the pigs to take over the farm.
Two wheels good, four wheels bad!
can’t take seriously anyone who talks about anoraks in a Nzed setting
Don’t fuck around with defence cuts. Don’t do it. End.
We’re just trading one form of austerity for another.
Chris, I have to respectfully disagree with your premise. Whilst Neale’s language is somewhat disrespectful towards those who are engaged in their local communities I believe his ambition is to create more housing and if not in the city then we have to ask where else do we house all our people in need of somewhere to live?
We have a massive shortage of housing and whilst building ever expanding suburbs might be cheaper and allow those who have already bought to maintain their little kiwi paradise quarter acres it won’t begin to solve the problems we face.
At some point we are going to have to infill, build up and intensify along main arterial routes and by public transport hubs. This will mean neighbourhoods will change and some will lose their piece of paradise but the alternative is increasing homelessness and whole generations locked out of home ownership forever.
I am one of the lucky ones – I own a home but I work with younger people who have given up the idea of ever owning and I worry hugely about the chances of my own children being able to enjoy the same quality of life that I have.
The current system isn’t fair and something has to change or society as we know it now will fail.
“With refreshing candour, he pours scorn on all the elements of participatory democracy and heaps praise upon the crushing power of the centralised state.”
How on earth does a so-called left-wing party allow itself to be captured by people of this sort? Remembering Roger Douglas and the bulldozer he drove through the economy all those years ago. Nothing democratic about that, either. And we’re still dealing with the consequences, aren’t we.
With regard to the Wellington situation, ideology rules, that’s become abundantly clear. It simply isn’t possible to put a counter-argument to Labour Councillors and to affordable housing advocates, without being accused of being Boomers! or of nimbyism! and colonialism! (yes, really). They haven’t yet accused dissenters of racism! but I’d say that it’s only a matter of time. They don’t present arguments in support of their stance: all they do is fling the above epithets.
Those of us who are older can be forgiven for concluding that the Left and the young wish to punish us for the sin of being older and owning houses in nice suburbs which we wish to protect. Never mind the fact that most of those campaigning for protection are in fact younger than we are by a considerable margin.
I note that in the Spinoff article, Jones quotes debunked figures for projected population growth in the city. This is also something the Left et al do: use discredited stats to support their stance.
I’m an old Lefty, born very soon after the war. I’ve voted that way pretty much all of my longish life. Now I’m done with Labour. I didn’t vote for it last election, very likely will never vote for it again.
” haven’t yet accused dissenters of racism! but I’d say that it’s only a matter of time. ”
and because you say racist things it is only a matter of time .
Hemi: “….and because you say racist things it is only a matter of time.”
Be specific: what have I said above that is what you call “racist”? Can’t adduce anything? Thought not. In which case, unless you have an actually pointful argument or comment to contribute to this thread, go find something else to do.
D’Esterre: ” Be specific: what have I said above that is what you call “racist”? Can’t adduce anything? Thought not. In which case, unless you have an actually pointful argument or comment to contribute to this thread, go find something else to do. ”
good advice you should take it .
So, Hemi: still nothing of substance? Like some other commenters here, you’re not strong on debate, are you?
So, D’Esterre: ” still nothing of substance? ” ” you’re not strong on debate, are you? “
my , debate and however is gold standard along with this so called substance you speak of
but , D’Esterre you still have nothing of substance ? and you’re not strong on debate , are you ?
Labour have not been a left wing party for many many years, probably the most left wing are the Maori party right now.
I am left wing, I haven’t vote for Labour since the mid eighties surprise surprise. The only good performer in there is Andrew little I think, and some have done a few good things, but frankly most of it is tinkering around the edges nothing bold or big, just frightened of their own shadow!
D’Esterre – Discredited stats are often used for debating purposes, lots of people don’t really understand them,
and their collection can be skewed anyway.
This issue has made me look at the WCC again, and I don’t like seeing an opportunist female rabble rouser who makes Day look like a repressed Carmelite nun, who talks in slogans and cliches, looks unreasonable, and single- handedly provides good reason as to why the WCC could benefit from having adult input about housing – except that central govt’s track record is totally abysmal – which is a shame.
There are probably groups of workers who don’t need to be physically located in Wellington – not that I support NZ companies outsourcing eg call centres to exploit cheap Asian labour. Changing work patterns resultant from coronavirus will almost certainly be starting to evolve, and the use of robots in ways possibly not generally
envisaged, is also likely.
None of this excuses current discussions about Wellington’s housing being so very polarised, either deliberately, or dumbly, or as a platform for big egos who seem to lose focus in being so. Various alternatives are being publicly tossed around from one extreme to another, possibly just to point score, or to show off, and it may all just have to get played out.
Snow White: “…an opportunist female rabble rouser who makes Day look like a repressed Carmelite nun, who talks in slogans and cliches, looks unreasonable, and single- handedly provides good reason as to why the WCC could benefit from having adult input about housing…”
Hahaha… hilarious and apt characterisation of you-know-who! It occasioned a lot of laughter in this household. Also that one is bad-mannered and sometimes downright rude.
Our current Councillors neatly illustrate why the young shouldn’t be let anywhere near governance: they have neither the skills nor the experience for it.
And couldn’t we just do with a few more adults making decisions about housing! Plus, it’d be good if the adults who are there could stand up to the young ones: at present, it looks as if they’re too scared of them to tell them politely to pull their heads in. It’s only ideology, to cleave to the view that the young would make a better job of running the city (or the country). Our experience with WCC (and the govt, unfortunately) says otherwise.
I note your comments above about the fight in which you were involved, to preserve the Town Belt from development all those years ago. The early 90s is when we returned to Wgtn, and I remember that stoush. It seems to me that all of us ought to keep a beady eye on the current crop of baby Councillors, lest they get ideas about that area as well. They have no respect for heritage: it’s only a matter of time before one or more of them decides that we could use some of it for housing. Ideology is like that: it blinds one to the value of such things.
I note further your observation that the Council cannot be trusted – or words to that effect. I think we’ve just seen stark evidence of that. It’s farcical: Clochemerle-ish, in truth, but absent the humour. Nothing remotely amusing about this lot. But we all need to keep a weather eye on them, that’s for sure.
“There are probably groups of workers who don’t need to be physically located in Wellington…”
Doubtless there are. But advocates for remote work, or for shifting government departments out of Wellington, need to ask themselves who’ll be living in the CBD if these workers are no longer in Wgtn? And where would CBD residents be employed, if most or all of those government jobs have migrated away from said CBD? This sounds to me like a “be careful what you wish for” idea.advocates can’t answer that one. Or won’t.
I don’t think the ‘young’ can be blamed for WCC housing proposals – there appears to be a dominant older posse involved; the ‘ young’ may be ill-bred and ignorant, but the future of the capital is too important for student level politicians bulldozing over history like cultural vandals ,and justifying themselves by
designating everything they don’t like as colonialist. So what ?
Snow White: “I don’t think the ‘young’ can be blamed for WCC housing proposals – there appears to be a dominant older posse involved….”
I checked the voting patterns of Councillors at the most recent meeting. It was the young Councillors who voted to – put bluntly – wreck much of the city. With the possible exception of Rush (looks youngish to me, but others may see it differently), of course.
The older and wiser ones voted against.
The tragedy is that none of this will bring “affordable” housing to anyone who needs it. Developers will recover their costs: the result won’t be cheap apartments. Unless possibly what’s on offer is the shoebox apartment: and even they aren’t cheap in Auckland. No reason to suppose that they would be here.
What advocates fail to realise (or accept) is that in many parts of Wellington city, houses and apartments are mouldy because of their location, not because they’re old. They’re in areas which don’t get much or any sun in winter: even in summer, some areas are shaded by hills. Now the proposal is to add tall buildings, which will create further shading. This is already a problem in parts of the CBD: some apartments face south, so no sun at all. They need heating, or they’ll be mouldy. We know: we’ve seen such places in Auckland. A fortiori in Wellington.
Ok. A few years ago relatives looked at buying a property in Aro Valley. When the estate agent realised that they wanted it for themselves, he exclaimed that they couldn’t possibly live there, it was too cold and damp etc, and said he’d assumed that they were intending to let it.
That’s a separate issue from the wilful destruction of lovely old heritage buildings and character houses which many people do enjoy living in, and replacing them with shoeboxes whatever, which turn a quick buck.
Where I now live, it is cold and damp – massive condensation when I first moved in, and ice on the inside of windows. I’ve
overcome this by opening doors and windows around the clock, and leaving many windows ajar at night. Others have massive electricity bills, but the houses were built on swamp, which probably should have been built on with greater care than it was ; I had cheap central heating everywhere I lived in the UK, which is where we did miss the bus in New Zealand. Exposed hot water pipes in bathrooms were fairly standard, and useful, and make more senses than enclosing them within walls.
Living without sun can be grim – hence rickets, deformities etc in the Brit slums, but I have no idea whether local NZ councils are required to take health considerations into account, it looks as if they don’t, and our children presenting at hospitals with chest infections and third world diseases is a disgrace, as is no longer being able to afford to keep cold homes warm, for which I do blame central government.
I once believed that all socialists must be village idiots. Look at Lenin, Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot – how could anyone be so stupid to support this?
However, I recently realised that socialists are often extremely intelligent. The socialist just believes that the utopian plan in their own head is so good it should override institutions like freedom, justice and property rights. Furthermore, where all other socialist plans in history were wrong, their own plan is different and correct. It’s a smug world view, that intelligent people can believe, due to the deadliest of the deadly sins – foolish pride.
The failure of the socialist is therefore their conceit. They overestimate their own intelligence.
Now we have socialists in power, so things become interesting. On the face of it, all the socialists should be happy. However, the utopia of one socialist is another socialists’ dystopia.
All socialists share the love of central plans, but alas, every socialist has a different plan in their head…
Absolute hogwash. Lenin believed in socialism and may be the rest of them might have but they never enacted it.
To suggest any of the current lot are socialists makes me wonder whether you seriously know what socialism is. True socialism has never been achieved anywhere in the world that I am aware of, perhaps Cuba got closest with a socialist dictatorship and would do well if it the Yanks stopped the blockade. The UN Assembly voted just two days ago to stop the blockade the vote was overwhelmingly in support of the motion but the US and their poodle Israel voted against.
An interesting mental exercise would be to imagine which of the current Labour cabinet ministers would slot straight into a National cabinet, holding the same portfolios, without us noticing any difference in their performance.
Great comment most of them i suspect.
Underqualified in sexual misadventure. Not born to rule. To kind…….actually it’s quite a long list. Must be why it’s so hard to find decent staff?
Pretty bloody disappointing that it is from people such as Neale who profess to be of the ‘Left” perpetuating a lot of the bullshit surrounding the heritage versus intensification debate and marketing it all as NIMBYism.
More like their theories versus the practical. Quite sad really. Neale should ekshully know better – I now know why the work-life balanced, award-winning and all-round regular gal Ryan sometimes gives him a prod on monday’s N2N. Sometimes he’s full of shit and I can’t even tend to agree with him.
Sure, in my area of Mt Vic, there are a small number of highly paid gentrifiers seizing all the ‘character’ homes they can get their hands on, and rebuilding them – and usually putting them behind gates, monitored by WiFi CCTV cameras – which it’d be quite enjoyable to hack if I didn’t have better things to do. Accidentals are sometimes mildly amusing though.
Some of that ilk go off to their senior private corporate or neo-liberally corporatised senior management jobs in the public service as they plan how best to maintain their work-life balance and stock market portfolios. They’re the smudges and skid marks, and in the minority around where I live.
Christ!. And to think I voted for Tamantha Paul who I now know is merely attempting to make a name for herself as an activist with as many followers and ‘likes’ as she can get. She should go far in the current Green Party.
But apart from those smudges and skid marks who park their boats and SUVs in the ever decreasing number of residents’ parks, and who try their very best to have everyone else pay for their expanding developments and footprints, most of the owners or inhabitants of some of those ‘character homes’ are actually not NIMBYs. Usually they’re not particularly wealthy and see their houses as homes rather than assets in order to make a capital gain.
Jones and Paul are actually enabling a lot of that even if they don’t have the smarts to realise it yet.
So while Tamantha Paul and Neale Jones would love to see what they think are warm, dry homes in some/ANY of the area close to the city they seem to think they know everything about, and as they ponder the theoreticals, practically existing infrastructure just ain’t gonna support their vision of utopia.
Shit pipes that regularly block, no – or very poor stormwater that leaks into the crumbling sewers, electricals that are on the verge, and already rolled out fibre that the likes of Spark and others now want to undermine, etc.
And so anybody that is going to do this intensification in some/ANY of the areas they propose is going to be up for providing the stormwater, shit pipes, electricity upgrades and internet connectivity to support it.
Sure as hell the WCC/gummint are not going to pay for it under existing neoliberal settings – no matter how many different levers they pull.
Given that – how “Affordable” are these intensified developments going to be for purchase OR for rent?
And meanwhile there are places where “warm, dry apartments” could go for those that want them where existing infrastructure could cope at a pinch, or at least with less expensive upgrades.
Pffft. Next
Tim – Much of that warm dry home stuff is just government spin to get them off the hook for not building enough houses : “We won’t do it unless we can do it properly” blah blah blah. Best houses in New Zealand were built early and mid 20thC; my three 1930’s homes were much better builds than my present 1980’s abode. State houses were wee beauties.
We South Island born grew up in old wooden houses without double glazing or costly draperies or heat pumps or expectations of every damn room warmed up, and survived pretty well by dressing in sensible sort of clothes – often Grandma-knitted – of real wool not synthetic crap, windows opened daily to air and dry houses, running for the school bus or just running, when cars to drive in, or be driven in, let alone live in, were by no means a universal.
People moved into social housing or public housing today, are provided with a much higher standard of housing and fittings , than those who may be doing the moving and having to provide everything personally paid for by themselves and that’s a simple fact.
Snow White: “We South Island born grew up in old wooden houses without double glazing or costly draperies or heat pumps or expectations of every damn room warmed up, and survived pretty well by dressing in sensible sort of clothes…”
Ha! Yes, and many of us in the North Island too. I have memories from my childhood, of running barefoot through paddocks in the winter, on my Taranaki families’ farms, and breaking the skin of ice on the puddles with said bare feet. We lived through the polio epidemic (didn’t get it) and the Asian flu epidemic (did get it), along with all the usual childhood illnesses, some of which I got, and some I didn’t (chickenpox, annoyingly, despite siblings being ill) but by and large, we were healthy and not plagued by winter bugs.
“People moved into social housing or public housing today, are provided with a much higher standard of housing and fittings, than those who may be doing the moving and having to provide everything personally paid for by themselves and that’s a simple fact.”
Agreed. And those who expect the gummint to provide housing with all the bells and whistles need to remember that.
Planning in NZ is a total farce. The idiots who do the planning assume that energy to run everything will magically arrive when required, even as we slide down the Peak Oil curve that leads to the collapse of industrial civilisation by around 2030,
What is more, the idiots who do the planning have not heeded any of the plethora of warning about the effects of the emissions they are so keen to promote, nor the dire consequences of Planetary Meltdown they have orchestrated
‘ As the current CEO of the PR/Lobbying firm, Capital Government Relations, it is equally safe to presume that he knows his way around the capital city’s power grid.’
Ha! What is this idiot going to do when the grid fails? (around 2030, if not before) and nothing in his world works!!!
It’s nice to see the level of Lake Mead continuing to fall rapidly because the termination of the US will terminate the entire toxic globalised system. Now just over 1069.
http://graphs.water-data.com/lakemead/
A few more months of the kind of scorching weather (climate) they have been experiencing
recently should finish them off.
@Chris. Great stuff.
Once again protecting established privilege from change.
Why can’t you just do what you’re told and wake up to tourself? You can piss off with your petty little changes. I’m not fucken calling a pregnant woman as a pregnant “person.”
Some people comment on the topic of the post and others …
Supply side all day, every day. The only side we ever hear.
We have plenty of houses, we even have 200,000 empty ones.
It’s just the multi level marketing scheme we dare not mention requires a load of clients to come in at the bottom of the ladder every year.
And beware anyone who sits in the way of the crew making a living out of this stuff. If the politicians won’t make the required decisions, we can always find commissioners who will.
A few excerpts and links – NZ Immigration, The Year at the Border…..
IN 2016/17, NEARLY 800,000 IMMIGRATION DECISIONS WERE MADE INVOLVING
MORE THAN A MILLION PEOPLE, INCLUDING:
32,000 RESIDENCE APPLICATIONS
243,000 WORK VISA APPLICATIONS
402,000 VISITOR VISA APPLICATIONS
119,000 STUDENT VISA APPLICATIONS
2017/2018 by the numbers
850,000 VISA APPLICATIONS INVOLVING 1.1 MILLION PEOPLE
487,000 VISITOR VISA APPLICATIONS
230,000 WORK VISA APPLICATIONS
105,000 STUDENT VISA APPLICATIONS
23,000 RESIDENCE APPLICATIONS
3,378 PEOPLE PREVENTED FROM BOARDING AIRCRAFT FOR NEW ZEALAND
1,201 PEOPLE DENIED ENTRY AT NEW ZEALAND’S BORDER
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/bay-of-plenty-times/news/tauranga-city-council-to-sell-two-mount-maunganui-elder-housing-villages-for-private-redevelopment/FNCTU42URRZKL45HM3YF3EOQWU/
https://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/homed/119636091/200k-empty-ghost-houses-why-and-what-would-get-them-into-the-market
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