The Green Party result in recent Polling is poor when you consider the Housing crisis and the lack of real progress on child poverty and welfare reform.
Labour Left should be bolting to the Greens.
They are not.
Anything less than 15% at the 2023 election by the Greens should be seen as failure. The demographic of the electorate favours the Greens, the issues and lack of Labour action favours them and duh – climate change.
Green members should go hard or go home.
They should dump the co-leader policy and elect Chloe as the Leader to give her 18months exposure in the run up to the 2023 election.
Chloe is a unique talent. She speaks with the energy of the new voting generation in a language that empowers and challenges. She is an incredible communicator and if she had the Leadership, she could dominate political debate.
What could be more radical than the youngest Political Leader in NZ History?
Marama and James should be thanked for the stability they bought the party, but now is the time to step up and be a 15% Party.
Chloe as Leader is a 15% Party.
If Labour gain another Majority MMP result in 2023, what was the point of the Green Party?
To be politically relevant, the Greens need to be needed by Labour. To do that they need to take Labour voters.
Chloe can do that. Marama and James can’t.
Imagine Jacinda as Prime Minister with Chloe as Deputy. Imagine the policy platform of truly transformative change a Government with that leadership could actually achieve.
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Genter has pretty good qualifications and pretty impressive work experience to go with it. She also rides a bike – if that’s okay.
Genter missed the boat and I say that as someone who supported her leadership bid. Time to move on. Like Andrew Little, Genter must subsume her ambitions into the Greater Idea of The Green Party elevating one of there own as Deputy Prime Minister.
ROFL. Genters qualifications are Philosophy, Politics & Planning Studies. Her meaningful work experience is in parking policy – which probably explains her zealot antipathy to actually improving road transport for the vast majority of NZ users as evidenced by her secretive undermining of Wellingtons local democracy a couple of years ago. That attitude might change a bit now she is going to have a couple of kids to tote around on her bike.
I guess Natz bought in their voters to keep in power, but have a feeling it will eventually backfire for the Labeens as when you destroy all the better rentals so that new migrants as first home owners can purchase them, and the poor are now camped in emergency housing or on the streets it kinda loses it’s polish on that argument.
Labeens have had 6 years but somehow still expecting a miracle of construction and private practise to do something with housing with more and green lighting more white elephant projects in the middle of nowhere for rich listers and overseas companies who just seem to be doing land zoning for their business and personal benefit and sucking up government taxpayers resources in alarming manners….. meanwhile the floods and congestion keeps continuing and the money has been stolen for the above….
In addition this type of farce where worksafe should be prosecuting themselves instead of those who actually helped rescue the victims and the scientists! Disgusting!! The helicopter pilots should be on the Queens honours list not in the dock!
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/whakaari-worksafe-prosecution-hearing-in-whakatane-expected-to-draw-crowds/YJD4XZSIGOTWD42BJWIZ7WC27U/
The biggest organisation who should be prosecuted is work safe themselves over White Island eruption! They dropped the ball just like they did for Pike River and in the construction industry that they do nothing to help raise standards for. Worksafe knew the tourist industry were not acting safely but could not be bothered doing anything about it as that means depriving a precious business of profit and doing their job ahead of time.
Such a kind face prosecuting rescuers and scientists! Sarcasm.
No prosecutions for these deaths by worksafe where there were known safety issues.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/illegally-working-overstayer-dies-on-the-job-acc-payment-made-to-widow-in-china/OWADEJMGCUYM36WLF6YNKUA2SE/
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/112696703/inquest-hears-that-sensor-may-have-saved-girl-killed-by-rubbish-truck
People who voted this government in and observing it’s failures should be bolting to National – because the Greens certainly haven’t got any viable policies!
Even you Andrew would have to admit the nasty natz are just a complete shambles. Shambles at the border!
Just imagine the Covid mess we would all be in if they had got into power. And the looney rimmer doing his utmost to welcome Covid to our shores. He’s a real nutjob. No, I think Labour/Greens with the 2 leaders Martyn is writing about would be good for progressive NZ. All the old redneck boomers would hate it, which is another plus. Roll on next election. Natz are toast for sure.
100% concur with your sentiments GreenBus.
BTW not all us boomers are rednecks.
I know mary_a. I’m a boomer too, but my angst is towards the other type of boomer. The type that gets there jollies at others expense. Have a good day.
You cannot seriously say that because:
a) National have not had opportunity to be in government during CV19 so none of us have any idea who they would have performed. However they do have several medical professionals and scientists in their ranks so I suggest they might well have managed it better than, say, an ex teacher.
b) All the heavy lifting was done by the various government departments, with Ardern showboating on TV when (and only when) there was good news.
Look; National proved they are shite, their ministers neanderthals and their policies are why NZ is in the state its in. Homelessness, dirty politics, you name it, tell me what National achieved in 9 long years, anything?Their leader is corrupt and temporary and you seriously want National to govern? Fuck no!
Lol please. What exactly are nationals policies besides shitting on the poor and the environment with their austerity, mass immigration, deregulation, large scale industrial diary, and neo Liberal trickle down bullshit?
The problem is that National , Green and Labour polices are almost identical especially around housing, population growth, economic mantra and environmental destruction and destroying NZ as we know it, faster.
So Labeens are more popular because we get a few more years before NZ has turned into Dhaka (and it only took Dhaka 50 years to go from a population of 1 million to 20 million. https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2021/mar/26/the-making-of-a-megacity-how-dhaka-transformed-in-50-years-of-bangladesh with all he issues that creates on infrastructure https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2018/mar/21/people-pouring-dhaka-bursting-sewers-overpopulation-bangladesh
Heh, imagine blood pressure maxing out in aged care apartments across the land, imagine provincial munters randomly firing off live rounds…
and imagine doing something meaningful about the milk powder/nitrogen Republic…and getting the Cannabis Industry going…and a state house mega build…
LINO and the Greeds are now irrelevant: the whole system crashes later this year.
You and I both know that they’ll keep this shit show of spinning plates going for far longer than would seem possible on paper (look at Japan). That said, I give it under 5 years now though. The question really is whether it all collapses at once, or it collapses in slow motion over multiple years.
The next major “shock” (I say that with “” since it should not be a shock at all) will be the West’s simultaneous complete banning of cryptocurrency following China’s move. That will buy fiat currencies a few more years at least.
There was a recent article about the Greens considering making changes to their leadership model.
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/a-new-leadership-model-afoot-for-the-greens?utm_source=Friends+of+the+Newsroom&utm_campaign=702cb14c6b-Week+In+Review+16.04.2021&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_71de5c4b35-702cb14c6b-97955668
Swarbrick’s view? ‘Auckland Central MP Chlöe Swarbrick sees value in change but she hasn’t made her own mind up about what that might look like.
“It could be a Te Tiriti-based model, or non-binary or trans, there’s so many options and some people are driving certain elements of that conversation,’’ she told Newsroom.’
Don’t know what she is on about, but I think it rules out a model where Swarbrick can be sole leader of the Greens.
If this combo came to power then we would not have many friends left as both China and USA would not past the sniff test of the Greens and i am sure Australia would be in the firing line,. We would see tourism chooked by regulations more bike lanes less roads dairy would be cut and the country would be a lot poorer but there would be lots of reports being done.
Trev, our country would be better off with all of that. We need to change the old ways and views. Less roads, more bikes (especially ones with motors), less tourism win win win. USA and China couldn’t care less what little NZ does. Australia? Well they will get put back into there place by China and rightly so IMHO. Who cares what they think. They (Politicians/Business) certainly don’t give a stuff about us.
In a ideal World your wishes would be desirable and survivable but I worry about the bills that need to be paid to support the many strands of the government that look after its citizens both young and old.
What a lot of looney, old, rightwing, 25%er, tory, moaning, angry, Jacinda-hater, misogynist, boomers. I’d rather vote for the suggested Labour-Green female leader combination than the current or any future Nat-Act leadership. The Nats-Act party dont care about the poor, homeless, unemployed, Maori, immigrants, etc because there’s no votes in it for them. They will reinstate the tax breaks for investors (read speculators) and rising house prices which helped Key create his so called rock star economy.
I, like the economists, international commentators and the 50%ers am happy to back Labour with the support of the Greens and their respective leaders. As the right-wing commentators keep saying, NZ has been lucky over last 18 months – yes, lucky they didn’t take Nat-Act advice on opening the borders or follow Sweden and Taiwan’s covid policies, etc.
Once again I say to our friends above, rejoice that our leader Jacinda and the Labour Govt have listened to the scientists and other experts and taken the correct options and made the right decisions thus making Aotearoa the most free and the safest country in the world.
I think you will find that new builds are exempt from the foreign investor buyers and the 10 year bright line test bill so it’s all spin and marketing to keep the foreigners buying NZ property while pretending to do something about it.
The new builds that government pretend is for Kiwi home buyers and renters is often not affordable on NZ wages. Some nurses are on $25 p/h and it’s not looking like a kind face for them on the pay rises. Someone should give Grant and Jacinda and Chloe a $60k income, 3 year student loan and ask them to buy a house with that in Auckland or Wellington with little hope on a wage rise.
If the Labeens cared about Kiwi buyers and renters, then only NZ citizens would be allowed to buy NZ property while there is such a housing shortage. Instead everyone including OZ, Singapore, (the rest of the world with new builds) as well as anybody who is a visitor to NZ on a student or work visa can buy here. You can even be an overstayer and buy NZ property apparently! Be a billionaire and buy up NZ mansions here (even before gaining permanent residency and citizenship you can buy land in NZ) you can also bring in your own low paid ethnic work force to farm it. https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/checkpoint/audio/2018791897/james-cameron-explains-dairy-cows-on-wairarapa-farm
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