When tasers were first introduced into New Zealand policing it was widely predicted it would be mostly used against Maori, Pasifika and those with mental health issues. And so it has. Just as worrying is the well-established trend that the more arms the police carry, the more likely they are to use them as the first line of defence.
It might seem inconsequential to armchair activists but police carrying tasers while on duty at public protests is an important issue relating to freedom of speech and the right to public protest. One has only to search on-line to find plenty of dreadful situations where police use of tasers in demonstrations has provoked outbreaks of violence and led to serious injury to members of the public and something to police themselves.
With this in mind the police standard operating procedures have always said that police rostered for duty must not carry tasers.
However, over the years there have been many occasions where the police have carried tasers while on duty at demonstrations. In most cases a complaint has been made and various excuses presented by police for a breach of their instructions.
Last November in Christchurch for example police rostered for duty at a lively demonstration against the outgoing Israeli Ambassador were armed with tasers.
Two Palestine solidarity supporters wrote complaints and were informed police instructions re tasers had changed.
One was emailed by a senior sergeant who said:
“…the current Police policy regarding the carriage of taser, allows a member of Police to carry Taser during a demonstration/protest”
The second was emailed by a police superintendent who said:
“On this occasion, our Sergeant leading the team made the assessment that TASER would be carried as a risk mitigation based on the information to hand. I support that decision. I should point out that TASER was carried, however not deployed.
Our Police Policy relating to TASER also covers this off as a tactical option for our teams to consider”
I did an OIA request to find out when and why the policy had changed and who had been consulted about the change only to be told, by an inspector this time, that the policy has NOT changed and that the Police Instruction Public Order Policing states in part:
“The TASER must not be carried by Constables rostered for duty at demonstrations. Remind constables that Police behaviour can oftendetermine the course of a demonstration. Over-reaction by constables can provoke disorder“
It’s a sensible instruction but appears to be lost on senior police in Christchurch. We are taking this up with them.
I think it’s important the public push back on issues like this. Without public pressure the other way, police and other state forces will always tend to extend their power against people they see as “a noisy minority”, or “troublemakers” or “stirrers” or “scumbags” or worse.
So when you are next on a demonstration check the police on duty and speak up if you see tasers on a police belt. Doing so means you are acting in the public interest.



Agree 100%. We don’t want our rights in NZ to protest safely gradually removed in NZ. We see terrible things happening in places like Hong Kong where protesters are arrested, jailed and even killed for protesting. NZ is going closer to that model.
In the interests of providing factual information, when where a protesters in Hong Kong killed by Police in since the protests against Beijing’s reforms began? Rather than using Hong Kong as an example, you could have cited protests in Myanmar, the US, Israel or one of the many other places where numbers of protester deaths have been common.
Don’t fall back on your usual ‘Chinese apologist’ line – just cite evidence in support of your statement suggesting that the Hong Kong Police have murdered protesters. As said, there are many better examples you could have used to illustrate your point.
@aom – without a proper legal system hard to prove that a person ‘falling off a building’ during the Hong Kong protests and disappearing people are killed or not, but arguably more fear to be disappeared without trial or lawyers and nobody knows what happened than killed outright in a protest.
In NZ, police are already taking innocent people’s pictures including children in a chilling response by NZ police, at a time when the NZ government is investing in technology used in the persecution of Uyghurs.). https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/in-depth/437944/police-using-app-to-photograph-innocent-youth-it-s-so-wrong https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/stuff-circuit/300253078/nz-business-and-political-links-to-blacklisted-chinese-company-iflytek?rm=a
Hong Kong protests
“One of the most striking things I have witnessed has been the letters that young protesters have been writing in case they are arrested or disappeared by security services. These “last letters,” to be read in the event that they don’t return from the protests, explain to their families why they are protesting, and also serve as a “no-suicide declaration.” Nine thousand, two hundred, and sixteen people have been arrested during the 12 months of protests, a figure much larger than the total prison population of 7,023. This discrepancy, combined with a series of mysterious deaths and disappearances that have been explained as suicides or accidents, has made protesters wary of their own safety. So the letters serve to say, “I will not be another suicide statistic.” As one young person wrote in their letter, “I have no regrets, not for a moment; even though missing or dead, I will never stay silent in the face of injustice”
https://www.thenation.com/article/world/hong-kong-china-protest/
Disappearing children of Hong Kong forgotten in the protest chaos
https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/asia/115625482/disappearing-children-of-hong-kong-forgotten-in-the-protest-chaos
AOM, I can see you favour an authoritarian approach aka telling me what examples I should use to illustrate my points…. possibly you are more at home under that scenario.
However the point of a blog and comments is that they are individual comments.
I able to write my comment just as you are able to use your right to complain about other’s commenting and your own views on that, rather than offering your own opinions on the topic.
While I could cite protests in Myanmar, the US, Israel who kill people (and Isreal is probably one of the worst in this category) it is more that I notice in left wing blogs, somehow the lefties seem to have bought the propaganda cool aid that China is one of the good guys for human rights and we should emulate their methods, otherwise it is some form of racism.
Usa and 5 eyes foreign policy is built on racism and mass murder ,,,, to think otherwise is to drink western cool aid ,,,, . https://youtu.be/Tt6ahC9dpAo?t=3886
Millions and millions dead ,,,, kids still being born deformed in Vietnam from DOW agent orange, with NO compensation ,,,, kids still getting maimed and killed by old explosives all over the world.,,,,
“A Lake of Blood and Destruction” https://youtu.be/gEiKlXVyRgU
If you want to be scared of China ,,,, be afraid that they will be anything like the USA and the 5 eyes band of blood brothers.
Like Israel is ,,,,,,,,
Human right is not a ranking system. The instances are all bad and are human rights abuses. But for some reason the Lefties are keen to forget Tiananmen Square where 100,000 Chinese students lost their lives protesting https://www.history.com/topics/china/tiananmen-square, and human rights abuses still going on in China without any sanctions from NZ. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/13/china-in-darkest-period-for-human-rights-since-tiananmen-says-rights-group
Instead NZ government with their hands on donations, is letting China actively put more PRC nationals/sympathisers into NZ into strategic jobs https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/invisible-man-national-mp-jian-yang-reporters-two-year-attempt-get-him-front, allow Chinese surveillance & dossiers on key people https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/122789760/new-zealand-spy-agency-reviewing-chinese-intelligence-database-for-security-concerns, and funding or helping projects or organisations used for human rights abuses or against privacy. https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2019/10/new-zealand-school-data-collected-and-on-sold-to-google-microsoft.html
At least Aunty Helen bothered to stand up to the Isrealis selling our passports and Lange with nuclear free. Sadly in 2021 current government focus seems to be supporting human rights abuses, not having basic security measures and not pursuing independent foreign policy as our foreign policy.
NZ neoliberals and woke are already willingly active participants in China’s economic occupation of NZ which also does not seem to end well aka Fonterra has invested NZ$1bn in its China farms division over the past decade as it tried to build a milk supply business in the company’s biggest export market. However, the division has consistently underperformed and its farms there have been unprofitable. https://www.ft.com/content/6ca82a88-bc9f-11e9-b350-db00d509634e
Air New Zealand loses ‘in excess of $100m’ over 13 years in China, CEO says
https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/112486110/air-new-zealand-looses-in-excess-of-100m-over-13-years-in-china-ceo-says
100,000 students lost their lives SaveNZ, really ??
My main beef was with the DP stuff article you originally linked to from ,,,,Stuff.
It called the Ukraine coup the Euro-maiden protests ,,, never mentioned the NAZIs ,,, like the ones which so inspired the Chritchurch killer that he incorporated, copied and wore their symbols and insignia during his attack….. ie these blokes here,, https://thegrayzone.com/2019/09/23/bomb-extremist-us-soldier-fbi-ukrainian-nazi-azov/
But your outdoing even Stuff,, with your claim of 100,000 dead students ,, which i found hard to believe as it would been more than the usa killed on their highway of death in the first gulf war.,, https://cdn.theatlantic.com/thumbor/BoSWRYvuYQnRrThbtDDge5jhmNY=/media/img/posts/2014/08/corpse/original.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCFuY7OQfwU
Whatever bad things the Chinese are doing, are probably bad enough without over-exaggerating by a factor of 10x, 20x … or more ,,,, The Independent gives a different range of figures.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/tiananmen-square-massacre-anniversary-beijing-tank-man-china-protests-facts-death-toll-a8382111.html
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I’m against corruption ,,, and how New Zealand helps the corrupt.
Much of what is touted as ‘Investment’ in NZ is actually “asset stripping” ,,,, enabled by tax havens ,,, in many ‘creative’ ways .
Asset stripping & money-laundering, ie: https://www.sarawakreport.org/2020/01/predator-logging-company-thrown-out-of-solomon-islands-is-owned-by-sons-of-sarawak-mp-expose/
I have been fobbed of on this issue a number of times. I recall demonstrations both in Auckland and Christchurch where police were wearing tasers on their belts. One of the issues surely is that whilst you can address the police in charge at the demonstration, you certainly can’t get them to remove their tasers, you are ignored!
This is fair comment, but I am tired of protestors taking their arguments & frustrations out on the Police. Their role must always be to uphold the law. We need to direct our arguments in a civilised manner to those who can solve them and not make the Police the meat in the sandwich.
So why don’t they then obey the law themselves!
Michal read my comment – I said John had made a fair point, but went on to say fighting the Police will ultimately achieve nothing.
Tasers save lives – the lives of both the police and the criminal element they’re being used against. The alternative to a Taser is a baton or a Glock. Your choice.
I would expect a police risk assessment of a demonstration outside of an embassy (any embassy) would indicate that Tasers are warranted but more so the Israeli embassy because elements within the demonstration could be Hamas or Hezbollah supporters – both terrorist organizations.
Having recently seen a small number of Police quietly and effectively dissipating a large rabble of rowdy abusive intoxicated students without need for Glocks, battens or Tasers, I wonder what you are on. A protest by anti-racist human rights advocates of an older demographic would be a walk in the park by comparison.
The protest was in fact outside a Christchurch city council building in Christchurch. Don’t jump to conclusions. The facts are that it is illegal for any cop to carry a taser at a demonstration, they know the law why can’t they stick to it.
Yes and we know that the ANC was a terrorist organisation and Mandela a terrorist…. Are they now terrorists NO NO NO
The real terrorists are the Israeli forces.
He was a terrorist. He and other were convicted in 1961 of making and planting bombs, several of which targeted and killed black Africans.
History proves that the terrorism was maintained in the form of apartheid in South Africa. It was ultimately overturned by world opinion built on the backs of imprisoned freedom fighters. Of course, one of the protesters ultimately became the President.
Indeed it was. But two wrongs don’t make a right.
BTW – Don’t you just love the way NZ is reinventing Apartheid?
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The Israeli embassy is not in Christchurch Andrew ,,,, how long have you been a pommy immigrant here in NZ for ??? ,,, or maybe you’re a half cocked cockney and have reading issues ?.
If we were to be more accurate then Israel, the usa and the UK,/ Pot, Kettle & Black ,,,,they represent terrorist & terrorist supporting organisations ,,,,,, https://youtu.be/ZgIEnVKVLZY
Tazers can be abussed for ‘compliance’ ,,, should not be present at protests ,,, and HAVE been involved in needless deaths of NZers ,,, but a bit like your cockeyed Georege Floyd take ,, you would claim they died of ‘natural causes’ ,,,, “As death toll keeps rising, U.S. communities start rethinking Taser use” https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-taser-deaths-insight-idUSKCN1PT0YT
A far better plan is not to have a police presence. They’ve got far better things to do and I am assuming would rather be anywhere else than a protest. If it turns to shit they can always attend later.
Quite right, it is all over the top! Totally unnecessary.
Well we had a very peaceful Black Lives Matter march in Wellington recently and not a cop in sight.
Michal read my comment – I said John had made a fair point, but went on to say fighting the Police will ultimately achieve nothing.
Peter, this is not in my view ‘fighting’ the police, it is however holding the police to account for the laws that govern us all. They are not the law themselves!
I can remember the Police promising the long batons would not be used after the Springbok Tour was over.
They lied then and still do now.
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