The same NZ scientists who were telling us last week that there is nothing to fear are suddenly fearful – this isn’t an identity politics issue, it’s a public health issue…
Coronavirus: Auckland Lantern Festival in doubt, decision this week
Organisers of the Auckland Lantern Festival will decide this week – possibly as early as today – whether to go ahead with New Zealand’s largest cultural festival after coronavirus fears have forced the cancellation of several Lunar New Year events.
The Whau Chinese New Year Festival and the Northcote Chinese and Korean New Year events were called off last weekend as the rapid spread of the virus from China has cast fears across communities here.
Steve Armitage, Auckland Tourism, Events and Economic Development (Ateed) general manager destination, said a decision has yet to be made about whether the lantern festival would go ahead.
…we should be aggressive in our denouncement of people attacking Asian NZers in a racist manner over this virus, but equally we should be heavily critical of the Chinese regime for lying and continuing to be deceitful over the true death rate and infection rate…
Chinese doctor reprimanded by authorities over text message warning of coronavirus
A doctor who issued a text warning about the outbreak of the coronavirus was arrested and reprimanded by Chinese authorities for raising the alarm.
When the illness struck seven patients at a hospital in late December, Dr Li Wenliang sent a text in a group chat that said: “Quarantined in the emergency department.”
One recipient responded: “So frightening. Is SARS coming again?”
In the middle of the night, officials from Wuhan, the epicentre of the deadly coronavirus outbreak, arrested the doctor and demanded to know why he shared the message, according to The New York Times.
…the totalitarian communist regime is unforgiving towards anything that loses it face and the system is compromised into one of collusion, deception and corruption, so when the virus erupted, no one wanted to tell the Party.
We still don’t know how many people have actually died.
We still don’t know how many people have actually been infected.
Compounding this deception is China’s history of extreme human rights abuses, their internment camps for Muslims, their mass surveillance state and their body organ harvesting from political dissidents.
The woke cry out on social media that any reaction to this virus that isn’t positive is somehow racist.
I was awake before the woke.
We have much to fear from the Chinese Government’s falsehoods but we must have compassion for the individuals impacted who are equally victims of China’s obtuseness in all of this.
Oh yes the wokeys,… those that cannot discern between race issues and political ones. Those who would seek their own agenda and not those of our national sovereignty.
When people talk against China all they can hear is anti Chinese sentiment. It is not that at all. It is anti the practices of the Chinese Communist Party , – the CCP.
And that is a political party , – NOT A RACE !!!!
Lets make this perfectly clear to those who want to bash New Zealanders for even daring to raise their opinions for fear of being bashed as a RACIST .
Amnesty International is in agreement with Martyn when he says :
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… ” Compounding this deception is China’s history of extreme human rights abuses, their internment camps for Muslims, their mass surveillance state and their body organ harvesting from political dissidents ” …
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100% in agreement with your seniments WK. Cheers.
Wild Katipo: “And that is a political party…”
Which is, of course, comprised of Chinese people. So: perhaps not altogether surprising that other Chinese people might feel a little aggrieved. Especially when commenters here post links claiming all sorts of inside information about their supposedly closed society.
I think we’d all feel a bit irked, were sundry do-gooders from outside of NZ to claim access to information about a multitude of goings-on, about which we were either unaware, or we knew not to be true.
Oh look, NZs lie (just a bit) about almost everything. We are not 100% Pure remember so need to press for factual information in a timely fashion – from everyone. Good news about the plane going, the procedures established effectively we hope. And what about the poor little people who are near Wuhan but outside the official boundary of that city. Have they got any pathway to follow, some timeline and guidance to grasp onto. It could it seems take a day to get to the airport and plane there, even after getting acceptance as they have to pass numerous checks on the way, and presumably wait in line. Compassion and firm controls are needed in equal measure it seems so as to contain this RNA virus, which may be a regular feature in our brave new world where technology is going to save us?
As the coronavirus originated in China and continues to spread and infect, while the Chinese authorities remain evasive relating to the true impact of the virus, it’s imperative NZ holds China at bay.
No one is ever going to know how many have been infected. That’s a given no matter how honest they would have been.
That said, causing panic by suddenly putting 11 million in quarantine probably has caused many more infections.
Gotta love the Chinese communist party.
Oh well, I was supposed to fly to Thailand in two days and get married but, I have the flu. Not sure if I should be thankful or not.
May I kindly recommend:
https://www.rightdiagnosis.com/s/sinophobia/intro.htm
The Herald- dreadful little rag that it is – quoting sources in the UK news media? Right…. So: scorn the western msm as propaganda peddlers when it suits, but uncritically accept what such outlets claim when it suits.
I’m puzzled that you’d take at face value anything at all out of the UK media. Or of the US, come to that. I’ve long since learned not to do that.
I see your link and raise you this:
http://thesaker.is/chinas-virus-response-has-been-breathtaking/
Of course NZ governments ‘never lie’, do they not??
Well Mike,… you and I both know that if they are a neo liberal govt of course they lie. It is their second nature to do so. As guaranteed as needing to take a much needed dump after a coffee when you first wake up as of a morning.
The neo liberal will deal equally well with either the Communist or Fascist totalitarians,… they have no values, ethics or morals. If a few million more die because of any deals struck,… what concern is that to them? They were probably just poor people anyway. Don’t need them. Just consumer eaters whose numbers needed to be culled back in future to make living space.
Look at National. A prime example. Consorting with the Fascist’s in the Philippines while doing business with the Communists in China. Not a problem. Then making a song and dance about a memorial service that the current govt didn’t attend, – never mind it was the far right who murdered six million men women and children and defenseless elderly. We do notice they didn’t bother to send a representative from their own number to attend…
But again.
Not a problem.
Just a bunch of nameless ‘worthless’ Jewish people who were murdered around 77 years ago.
That’s just how they roll. A little bit of slurring the memory of those nameless, faceless murdered people for political points scoring is all par for the course and grist for the mill. Not a problem.
No problem at all to them.
Talking to family in China it sounds like the govt are doing their best but its a big issue. I would not be surprised by a cover up but do you think it would really be any different here? I doubt it. Panic in a large population is a dangerous thing too, how is that to be managed?Tell them people are dropping like flies? Can you imagine the outcome of that?
As to human rights abuses and governments being dishonest we don’t exactly have a sterling track record there either so again not sure why this is relevant? Just look at the TPPA if you need a recent example. One of many I might add….
Sean: “…..do you think it would really be any different here? I doubt it. Panic in a large population is a dangerous thing too, how is that to be managed?Tell them people are dropping like flies? Can you imagine the outcome of that?
Agreed, Sean. I don’t doubt that Beijing is only too well aware of the risks of panic in a population of that size. They have a number of issues to juggle; thus far, they seem to be doing a pretty good job of it.
In terms of age, I’ve been round the clock a time or two; I feel as if I’ve seen it all before. I’d add that in this household, we cannot see what all the fuss is about: in virtue of what is it worse than our regular outbreaks of seasonal influenza? For a good blast of common sense for all readers, see this:
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/119283666/coronavirus-is-a-global-misinfodemic
Money more important than safety in Neoliberal Managerial Intellectual Yet Idiot, NZ!
“Entering New Zealand from the country at the centre of a global virus outbreak, an Air China passenger says no one aboard his flight was screened.
The passenger, who did not want to be named, told the New Zealand Herald he arrived in Auckland from Beijing on Monday evening.
“There was no one checking passengers’ temperatures at Customs, through immigration, anywhere,” he said.
“I just walked out.”
Even though he and other passengers mentioned they had recently travelled to Wuhan, they left Auckland Airport only clutching a health pamphlet, he said.
It was poles apart from the health screening he had seen in China, where travellers’ temperatures were taken at multiple points at Hong Kong airport.
Despite feeling fine and seeing no one on his flight seeming to be ill, he said the lack of screening made him nervous.”
https://www.odt.co.nz/news/national/no-one-checking-concerns-over-border-screening
“A doctor who issued a text warning about the outbreak of the coronavirus was arrested and reprimanded by Chinese authorities for raising the alarm.
When the illness struck seven patients at a hospital in late December, Dr Li Wenliang sent a text in a group chat that said: “Quarantined in the emergency department.”
One recipient responded: “So frightening. Is SARS coming again?”
In the middle of the night, officials from Wuhan, the epicentre of the deadly coronavirus outbreak, arrested the doctor and demanded to know why he shared the message, according to The New York Times.”
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12305714
Kheala: “Dismissing the reference source without addressing the content…”
A careful read of my comment above will show that I did in fact see and read the BBC article. That’s what I said. I also said that I don’t believe it. And that’s because of its provenance.
This is the BBC: nowadays, I do not trust anything at all that it broadcasts, unless there’s corroborating evidence from a source that isn’t the msm.
Believe what you like. And I fully intend to do the same.
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