The Daily Blog Open Mic – Thursday – 24th October 2019

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  1. Why is the NZ government issuing so many visas to NZ! It works out badly for everyone and why is nobody prosecuting the labour firms like NPL bringing them in!

    Their is not work for them, so they should be sent back and the government/unions sues and gets their money back if it was paid to a NZ firm. If not ban the overseas firm from issuing visas.

    We have a housing and health crisis in NZ, with more and more people on jobseeker (up 11% this year) and needing emergency food, accomodation etc – so the last thing NZ needs is more people coming to NZ on scams.

    Immigration New Zealand pressured to give Chinese workers alternative visas

    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2019/01/immigration-new-zealand-pressured-to-give-chinese-workers-alternative-visas.html

    • Its been standard policy to punish the victim and let the arseholes get away with it for several years @SaveNZ.
      Thankfully, INZ and the Labour Inspectorate have woken up to the mess they have created for themselves but the problem has become so big they’re overwhelmed. It was all working as designed by the previous junta. Lack of proper oversight and resources

      And now the current coalition government seems to be reacting in knee jerk style playing catchup. It might take a while for them to realise the whole bloody thing needs to be rebuilt from the ground up and taken away from Joyce and Coleman’s vanity project (MoBIE).

      Don’t hold your breath. These things take time (including fucked up restructures and managing racists and muppets out of the place). You have to give them E for Effort though

      • Totally agree OnceWasTim, the Government don’t seem to want to rock the boat as business still braying for cheap labour and the money that companies like INZ can make is very impressive off the back of the visas, then of course, supply the ‘accomodation’ etc etc

        Why the wokies are not focused on prosecuting INZ and the other labour companies is beyond me.

        The current government don’t seem to understand many of the migrants are probably told outright lies about their prospects in NZ and have to keep paying and paying and paying. That is ok for those that have the money, but some borrowed it and like the Kiwis for a student loan for example will never be able to pay it back as the low wages offered.

        it’s a scam with many victims including local victims displaced in the process in terms of work and accomodation, as well as the migrants if they are not in on the scam , but bringing people into NZ under false pretences and overblown promises in both work and study, so that labour/tertiary companies can profit should not be acceptable to this government and they are not doing enough to stop it.

        The 18% increase each year under the Labour government shows not only are they not containing the issue, they are allowing it to escalate.

  2. Might explain the ‘record’ tourism and 300,000 temp and residency visas issues.

    ‘Desperate people will pay significant money’: Human smuggling groups target New Zealand

    “Organised criminal groups are charging tens of thousands of dollars to manufacture fraudulent passports in an effort to smuggle people into New Zealand. ”

    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2019/09/desperate-people-will-pay-significant-money-human-smuggling-groups-targeting-new-zealand.html

    Since any man and his dog can get into NZ on the back of a fake degree or pay a visa company, I guess the advantages to a fake passport is that you avoid the waiting list at immigration NZ and like Sroubek can get operate as a drugs smuggler, open a business, get your ’employees’ citizenship with the job, and then get granted permanent residency in jail after getting off multiple charges in court with the help of your QC lawyer!

    • And I wouldn’t be too quick to blame I L-G for all that either. Better to blame the cistern and some pretty fucked up past policy advice, and at a pinch, his naivety and being such a nice bloke, absent of an adequate bullshit detector
      (see the response also to your previous @ SaveNZ).
      It’s all what you get when you treat people as economic units whose only purpose is to pipe them through ANZCO skill shortage lists (that are always out of date) and other business enterprises (such as the shit PTEs that have smeared the reputation of the genuine), and without any, or little regard for social and cultural imperatives.
      (INZ, the Labour Inspectorate, and other little compliance fiefdoms under MoBIE have been built just for that purpose).
      Then of course there’s NZQA. And then there’s also Shane and the compromises necessary to maintain a coalition – kind of like Obama’s “Redline”

      What’s it going to take to be kind and transformational? Certainly not one or two suicides that go unnoticed.
      I know……Maybe something like a refrigerated truck load of 39 of the desperate onshore, or even being given the two finger salute when we go grovelling for a free trade agreement.
      Yea, but Nah

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