Why Andrew Kirton should have gone yesterday, victim led can’t look like this & National’s infamous ‘Princess Party’ means they have no moral high ground

1. Honestly all of this pales in comparison to the Labour party signing our future away with the new TPPA just the other day.

   Yes it’s bad that 16 year olds are drinking and being assaulted at Labour run parties.

   I suspect these teenagers and their parents are quite capable of dealing with this assault situation without the rest of us who weren’t there and probably don’t know the full facts getting involved.

   I feel it would be much better for the country if we concerned ourselves with our long term future and the impending dangerous loss of sovereignty to multi national corporates.

   This is Labour’s crime as far as I’m concerned and this is what outrages me.

2. Well her in NZ 16yrs old can have an abortion get contraceptives and the parents aren’t told they can get married have sex and pay taxes some mugs were saying they should vote why when many of our 18year olds aren’t interested

   • Michelle, you’re absolutely correct on this matter. There’s a real “witches burning at the stake” mentality rising here which is way out of perspective in my opinion. It’s this sort of mentality that’s driving many good men away from teaching…too bloody scared of being falsely accused of inappropriate behaviour and this doesn’t help in any sort of “balance” in society.

     • Yes John we desperately need more men teachers far too many women in this profession and far too many middle class pakeha women now I m not being racist my mum is pakeha.

3. The difference between Slater, Lusk and Farrar and well ANYONE at that Labour camp is that the actual events at the Labour camp were real and not just like SLF – in their wildest imaginary dreams.

4. I am more concerned about this:

   Women’s rights , childrens’ rights have been made a BIG DEAL by the new government recently , Jacinda Arden and the Labour Party have been championing them and waving the flag and leading the charge

   ….so why, unlike Australia and other countries , is the Labour Party and Jacinda Ardern deliberately and against all opposition by those abused as children ,excluding an examination of abuse by religious institutions?

   … particularly the Catholic Church which has long opposed and undermined the rights of women and been at the forefront of the abuse of children

   …even Catholics are speaking out:

   ‘Vatican ‘in fear’ of NZ abuse inquiry – whistleblower’

   https://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/morningreport/audio/2018635197/vatican-in-fear-of-nz-abuse-inquiry-whistleblower

   “An international Catholic whistleblower says the Vatican will be “quaking in fear” in case the New Zealand Catholic Church is included in an inquiry into state abuse. The government has repeatedly stated it wants to leave Churches and other non-state institutions out of the upcoming Royal Commission into abuse. Father Tom Doyle of Virginia in the United States, says that will suit New Zealand’s bishops and priests very well. The one-time canon lawyer first blew the whistle on the global abuse scandal in 1984 and his work featured in the Academy Award-winning film Spotlight. He told reporter Phil Pennington that of the dozen-plus abuse inquiries he’s been involved in, he’s never seen one that’s limited like New Zealand’s. The communications advisor to the New Zealand Catholic Bishops, Amanda Gregan, says she is not aware if the Vatican has told local Bishops not to lobby to be included in the Royal Commission. RNZ has had no response to repeated requests for New Zealand Cardinal John Dew to publicly state whether he will ask the Government to do this.”

   (If the Labour Party persists with this policy of excluding religious institutions from examination by the Royal Commission into abuse , it will be a stain on the shiny glossy new Labour led government which will last. People and voters will perceive hypocrisy .

   Elections are not just won on a positive affirmative vote ( of which the Left has a slim majority)…but they are lost by those who ,perceiving hypocrisy, injustice and corruption, choose not to vote. There are many apathetic non- voters in New Zealand…people who in the past would have voted Labour and are lost to the Left.

   Why is the Labour Party protecting the Catholic Church and other religious institutions from examination in the Royal Commission abuse inquiry ?….This is so NOT serving the interests of NZ women and children !

   …Is it a question of money?

   …Is it a question of donations to the Labour Party by the Catholic Church and other religious institutions?

   … Where are the loyalties of the Labour MPs?

   Questions need to be asked and answered …at the moment it is incomprehensible )

   • Bear in mind that the Mormon faith is extremely patriarchal . The dutiful wife is unquestioningly subservient , even if she is intellectually clearly superior.
     Did you watch “Big Love”?
     It might be awkward for our present Prime Minister to set up too intense an enquiry into this aspect of the churches.
     D J S

     • This country is also still very patriarchal David one just has to look at salaries and boards and the attitude towards women. It comes from our anglo- saxon background where having a wife was said to be as good as having a good plough

5. So how many minors has Farrar had his hands on, into their pants or panties, does anybody know???

   Time to tell the whole truth, thanks.

6. I sense this is a repeat or continuation of dirty politics, new style. Yes, Labour did stuff up again, Young Labour that is, and the party suffers, yet again, perhaps justifiably.

   But there are many other forces at work, to undermine this weak government, and they are succeeding. Farrar led the way on his Kiwiblog days ago, raising the issues with that abuse and alcohol availability at that Labour Summer Camp days ago.

   National have their own stories to hide, they just have better resources and legal advice, so we never learn about much that goes on at the Young Nats and other parties or functions.

   They also often have rich parents, which helps, as always, not just with access to education and so.

   This is totally stupid the way Labour handles this, even Jacinda is stuffing up, and it shows, Labour are not in control of their own affairs.

   That is of course what Nats want, what David Seymour wants, and the MSM are usually on their sides, as we have seen over the last nine years.

   I cannot believe the amateurism and stupidity within Labour to deal with it as they have. By now things should have been tidied up, they should perhaps had invited the police to ask questions, and so forth.

   But no, it is all defensive, Jacinda having to explain in front of media cameras. This is just the beginning, I knew it was going to come, this government will fall apart soon, not on policy, on poor management and appalling PR strategies and operations.

   I give them the middle finger, they deserve it anyway, with the poor policy and program we get, a few morsels for some, for the rest, business as usual.

   If this is the alternative to a Nat led government, go and f*** yourselves. I want different government, a different country, a different society and progress and real change, we are NOT getting it and that is disgusting.

7. I can’t help it, call me suspicious, but I smell a big dose of dirty politics going on here. National’s election loss has unleashed some real hatred towards Labour, and there are people who would stop at nothing to bring down the government. Is it too much of a stretch to suggest that somebody set a very sick cat amongst the pigeons? Right wing politics has become a very dark art indeed, and I am very, very suspicious about the story behind this story

   • agree 100% Catherine possibly the reason why they (the gnats) have been so quiet they at too busy lapping it up.

8. We have a total over reaction, also within Labour, there was ONE person, about 20 years of age, who behaved inappropriately, he deserves to be reported to police and the rest left with them.

   All this hyper over reaction, to ban alcohol, to stop all summer camps, and all this overly PC mad BS is not going to help Jacinda, Labour and the government.

   Stop over reacting, get real, address the culprit and leave it to the police to deal with, that is the appropriate action that should have been taken, not all this PC BS galore.

9. For FFS for heaven’s sake, here we have the MSM dictate the stories of the day, and all run around like headless chickens, while we have REAL issues in this lost and useless country, CHILD LABOUR:
   https://nzsocialjusticeblog2013.wordpress.com/2018/03/13/child-labour-in-new-zealand-not-only-a-thing-of-the-past-although-not-widespread-alive-and-well-in-nz-in-2018-special-post/

10. I see hoskings and co (his wife) are now experts on teenagers 16years olds

11. Bomber, time to drop all this stuff. Jacinda & LP President have front footed the issue – you’re simply putting yourself on the side of Hoskings & his dim witted wife

    • Why don’t you hop on the Twitter and debate me about this. You can at me at @sam1bro

12. The sluts and slobs who year after dull year, comprise the one eyed media of this tiny nation, have been told that one person aged 20yrs, sexually assaulted three 16 year old girls and one 16 year old boy at Young Labour camp weekend.

    The alleged perpetrator was a gate crasher.

    The Young people were asked to decide whether the police should be called. Whether parents should be advised. They declined those options.

    It is not unusual for !6yr olds to make decisions that effect them personally.

    However, Labour must find a way from the top down to publicise and to ensure that every person under 18yrs is cared for as if by a Parent or Guardian at events.

    Alcohol is a Devil that should not have place where near persons under 18yrs. Even that age is very young !

13. I believe Jacinda knew. Her body language said it all. Wonder if Winston is still proud of his choice?? And to think we had an honourable and decent govt already in place, before undemocratic MMP destroyaed it.

    • Miles, how often do you visit planet Earth? If you think the last government was honourable & decent, (think Pike River, SAS cover up, housing crises, Todd Barclay, etc) then you’re totally delusional. The last National Government was the most corrupt & incompetent Government NZ has ever had

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