Bill English resigns as Leader of the National Party

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Bill English destabilised as Leader before conference + Chris Bishop having snapchat allegations leaked to stop him running as leader = Judith Collins?

As TDB has been pointing out, the destabilisation campaign against English has reached its moment and he has stood down.

The threat of a full scale civil war where details Bill didn’t want going public on right wing attack blogs  are covered in the ooze of dirty politics.

Bill English destabilised as Leader before conference + Chris Bishop having snapchat allegations leaked to stop him running as leader = Judith Collins?

Watch now for the Collins/Bridges faction to manoeuvre.

The Right are on the rise. Cue clips of Judith Collins walking with the Imperial March from Star Wars.

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48 Comments

  1. Michal says:

    I think everybody knew he wouldn’t last until the next election but I am surprised it has happened so soon. Collins one of the viles members of parliament.

  2. Funnily enough, my Care Factor hasn’t risen much above zero…

    I hope Collins is appointed Leader. That would make the Nats unelectable. Best. Early. Christmas. Prezzie. Ever.

    • e-clectic says:

      LOL – which of them would make them electable?

    • Knarf says:

      Be careful, people were saying the same thing about the Republicans picking Donald Trump.

    • James Brown says:

      Yup hoping for Collins as well – the far right will love her but she should alienate enough of the centre to hamstring the Nats next election.

    • Louis says:

      Feel the same Frank.

    • bert says:

      I agree Frank my care-factor reads – 12. One point I do find interesting thoughwas a comment made by English. “I want to do more with my family” But when questioned about whether he would have stepped down had he been P.M of N.Z. English stated clearly not if he was P.M. So therefore he would have put power ahead of family, which says a lot about the character of the man. All those years in parliament and all I can remember of English is Todd Barclay.

  3. Siobhan says:

    Couldn’t agree more Frank, but yeah…Collins…please please please let it be Collins.

  4. countryboy says:

    “BREAKING: Bill English resigns as Leader of the National Party…”

    Speaking as a farmer; The only thing I’d like to see breaking is his scrawny, traitorous, little neck.
    Traitors like him are specifically the problem that’s plagued holistic NZ farming for generations.
    A collins/bridges coalition will be the catalyst for a riotous revolution.
    Bring it on.

    • CLEANGREEN says:

      Here here country boy, Bill English is a slimy vile hypocrite that would sell his mother for a buck.

      I lost it with bill English in 2009 when he backed Steven Joyce as Joyce was setting about to wreck Labour’s Kiwi rail just for spite and English supported Joyce by saying publicly stating that ; QUOTE; “We cant afford a road and a rail system”

      Now we have our roads full of overweight trucks that are other road users killing machines and these super sized “monster trucks” are now wrecking our roads so “it is a great day to see the end of this evil little man.”

      “Good riddance to bad rubbish”

  5. mary_a says:

    Judging by Bill’s body language during his resignation speech, I’d say he didn’t go willingly, but was pushed.

    Collins will be leading the knife sharpening at the moment. Hope it is Collins/Bridges or Collins/Bennett. All totally unelectable and no contest up against Jacinda.

    Bishop hasn’t a show of standing for the leadership. His leaked recent activity has put paid to that. Coinciding well with Blinglish resigning. Possibly the very same leaker who exposed the details of Winston Peters’ superannuation overpayment. What do you think Ms B?

    • Louis says:

      Yes, he looked like he didn’t want to go but had had the hard word put on him.

    • CLEANGREEN says:

      Curwin said on his article;

      “It’s also worth noting that English’s elevation to Leader of National may very well have been responsible for some of New Zealand First’s flagging fortunes”

      Yes mary-a

      It was the “dirty politics policy against Winston” during the election, that did this ‘pushing of English out of parliament so I disagree with Curwin’s summary, and it was deliberate timing as Winston’s court case is now close to wrapping up I reckon.

      The press seems to have forgotten that we have this inquiry going on.

      We now have a court legal inquiry going on; – with four National MP’s and two civil employees found to be connected to leaking Winston’s private information to Government agencies and the press.

      Including the now defunct National leader Bill English!!!!! and some say that was why he suddenly exited the political scene because the legal court inquiry must be close to making a ruling that Bill English is one of the four national MPs that leaked Winston’s details along with his enemies in national such as Collins, Joyce and Bennett.

      Now the question is will Bill English now be able to be charged with his scandal over this since he will be not a politician any more come 27th February 2018???

      Was this the real reason why his ‘sudden retirement/pushed move happened???

  6. Aaron says:

    Can someone please put that music too a video of Collins walking through parliament. Please, please, please.

  7. James Brown says:

    I think the only real danger is posed by Simon Bridges, could easily tap into the same mindset of people who voted Key and also represents the ‘generational change’ that Nats need to match.
    Nikki Kaye could mirror these qualities etc as well . .
    Just hoping when the smiling and knifing has finished it is Collins or Bennett left standing.

  8. mosa says:

    Bill English finally resigns for Operation Burnham , Todd Barclay, dirty politics , the low wage economy he has always supported and his lack of empathy in dealing with the effects of Nationals policies and his contempt for many battling New Zealanders doing it hard.

    He and John Key are cut from the same cloth, lies, deception and corruption.

    There is a lot more but that is a start on what has been a lacklustre career and a repulsive urge to give into his greed and claim entitlements he knew he was not entitled to.

    The possible inquiry into Burnham may have been a factor in him going now but he will survive any damage and be Sir Bill within the year.

    • Wanman says:

      In a few years I think we will look back and understand that Michael Cullen and Bill English were the best Ministers of Finance that we have had

    • G.A.P. says:

      My thoughts exactly MOSA

    • Anne says:

      “The possible inquiry into Burnham may have been a factor in him going now.”

      That was my reaction too. If it’s true then he must have known something he went to great lengths to cover up at the time of Hager’s book launch.

  9. Takere says:

    So who’s side is the NZ representative for Mongolia on? Honorary Hoots has a Sanctuary on Shortland Street, Auckland with Mongolian jurisdiction? An untouchable?
    Clever bastard!

  10. Rodel says:

    Bennet and Nuk Korako I reckon.

  11. David Stone says:

    My God they’r mad!
    Judith is repulsive all by herself without lining herself up alongside Jacinda. Now we’ll never know if this coalition is any good or not. There’s no opposition.
    D J S

  12. James Brown says:

    Email from my brother who for the record votes / is a member of the Labour Party (food for thought)?

    “It depends on how I look at it. I respect Kaye, she has shown a willingness to work in a collaborative manner with other parties and is socially liberal. On one hand Kaye is a threat to Labour which is bad, on the other, if we were to have a National Govt, for the sake of NZ and NZ’ers I would prefer it to be a Kaye led National Govt.

    Bridges I do not like. I think Bridges is an old school National politician in a young body. A perceived vote for change with Bridges is actually a step back to a more conservative, manipulative, self serving National regime. He is a cross between Key and Peters, and not the good parts.

    I would be fine for either Collins or Bennett but I cannot see either happening. Worst case for me, and what I think will happen is Bridges with Kaye as Deputy. Bridges will blunt any fresh thinking Kaye might have but they will still be perceived as progressive.”

    • bert says:

      It wouldn’t matter if they put up Corrupt Collins, Boastful Bridges or the Woeful Westy. They are all vile and would only ever be caretaker leaders, why, because none have empathy as a value. As for Bill, any positive reputation he had went down the drain with the Todd Barclay affair. Bill had a great chance to display his strong catholic belief but power, arrogance and politics shone through.

  13. Pete says:

    As a country with a big reliance on agriculture and dairying it would be powerful and symbolic for Judith to be the leader. The country that puts its money where it’s mouth is – an out and out cow leading a major political party.

    • peterlepaysan says:

      Excuse me, please desist from comparing cows with j collins.
      Cows are useful, pleasant and attractive.

  14. James Brown says:

    Email from my brother who for the record votes / is a member of the Labour Party (comments food for thought)?

    “It depends on how I look at it. I respect Kaye, she has shown a willingness to work in a collaborative manner with other parties and is socially liberal. On one hand Kaye is a threat to Labour which is bad, on the other, if we were to have a National Govt, for the sake of NZ and NZ’ers I would prefer it to be a Kaye led National Govt.

    Bridges I do not like. I think Bridges is an old school National politician in a young body. A perceived vote for change with Bridges is actually a step back to a more conservative, manipulative, self serving National regime. He is a cross between Key and Peters, and not the good parts.

    I would be fine for either Collins or Bennett but I cannot see either happening. Worst case for me, and what I think will happen is Bridges with Kaye as Deputy. Bridges will blunt any fresh thinking Kaye might have but they will still be perceived as progressive.”

  15. Cemetery Jones says:

    Please say it’s Collins, she’ll totally fail to see that sticking pins in a young, idealistic, and pregnant PM who runs at a massive empathy level is a dumb strategy and go ahead with it because it’s all she seems to know. Collins is an electoral Stalingrad waiting to happen. Even if NZF were to collapse, there’d be a good chance of a Labour/Green government next term against a Collins led National party.

  16. Kate says:

    BYE BYE BILL, TWO OUT OF THREE AINT BAD. What did National discuss at their recent caucus retreat…hmmmm…let me address some elephants in the room. National’s probs are that their current plan appears to be no plan. Since obtaining office, Labour has hardly put a foot wrong, and have shown a pragmatic direction, to occupy the center ground, and will likely be the highest polling party by 2020. And National will have no useful friends, since Act’s party vote is now so low, that they have no overhang advantage. National needs to get on the good side of Winston, by jettisoning everyone involved in his superanuation leak, asap. Especially that Mr eleven billion dollar man, StevO, we can’t rebuild him, we don’t have the technology, the worlds cursed sardonic man, slipperier than a speeding sextoy, and able to fighten small children with a single frown.

    Or National has to create a new friend in the center, because a friend further right evidently doesn’t work out. Instead of the crazy Judith option, maybe go for a more wholesome leadership team, such as Nikki Kaye + Todd McClay, to counteract the Jacinda effect, which shows no sign of waning, rather the opposite. Jacinda’s even going to start giving birth to new supporters. National should also rejig their list, to bring in as many young females as possible, such as Nicola Willis and the like. National needs a real overhaul before 2020, to be in with any chance, instead of hoping that Labour trips up. Jacinda out-shining the reign of both Clark and Key, is looming ominously for National.

    After Labour dismantles charters schools, and other remnants of National policy detritus, Nationals sole legacy will be the increased rate of gst, that was used to fund their tax switch. To address inequality, and its myriad social consequences (think more jails), I’d suggest Labour increases gst again, in a second fiscally neutral tax switch.
    However the second tax switch, could be used to fund a partial UBI, similar to T.O.P policy. Perhaps a 1% gst increase annually over several years. The advantage being that it would give greatest help to those on lower incomes, compared with bracket adjustments that mainly help the rich. With a longterm goal, of incrementally scrapping the creeking MSD system with a full UBI, and a drastically downsized IRD. And DHB’s who actually know something about health, taking over administering current MSD medical allowances.

  17. simonm says:

    I’m picking a Bridges/Adams or Adams/Bridges combo – not sure who’ll come out on top though…

    I agree Collins would be great, but the risk of nearly 3 years of the government taking her to task for her corruption involving Oravida, or for damaging the Marsden avgas pipeline through illegally digging for swamp kauri, would be too much for the likes of Peter Goodfellow and the Nat’s board.

  18. Nitrium Nitrium says:

    Goes to show how much lying to the media and voters was going on when National claimed the “nothing to see here, Bill English is still the undisputed leader” card a week or two ago when TDB called a challenge was imminent.

    • David Stone says:

      A fair indication of the general level of trustworthiness.
      Never believe anything until a politician has denied it.
      D J S

  19. CLEANGREEN says:

    Here here country boy, Bill English is a slimy vile hypocrite that would sell his mother for a buck.

    I lost it with bill English in 2009 when he backed Steven Joyce as Joyce was setting about to wreck Labour’s Kiwi rail just for spite and English supported Joyce by saying publicly stating that ; QUOTE; “We cant afford a road and a rail system”

    Now we have our roads full of overweight trucks that are other road users killing machines and these super sized “monster trucks” are now wrecking our roads so “it is a great day to see the end of this evil little man.”

    “Good riddance to bad rubbish”

  20. Andrea says:

    Are there no decent conservatives, no smart and thrifty people in National? Even a few devout and modest religious?

    No one?

    Any business-able people? No?

    Even a part-way decent clump of senior managers?

    No?

    Just professional leeches and permanent pollies, eh.

    No ‘hold ’em to account’ vertebrates left. I wonder if Seymour can do it all on his own? There’s no one else.

    PS Will Nick Smith and that Bennett woman make it to the end of the year without enduring an attack of the stilettos or jack boots?
    Maybe…

  21. Veritas says:

    Some comments above do not appreciate Judith Collins for the real threat that she is. She has greater political experience than Adern, can be tough on Adern without being labelled sexist and has a very sharp mind. Adern will not be able to play the mother card either; Collins has been there and done that as well. Ultimately it won’t be enough that pulp magazine readers and Breakfast TV watchers think Adern is lovely. She is endanger of being crushed.

  22. Jason says:

    Crusher Leader with Adams there somewhere too.

    They’ll make it pretty difficult for Jacinda, when things turn to custard, which they inevitably do at some stage.

  23. mosa says:

    When is Corrin Dann actually going to admit to himself that he really is a closet National MP and do something about it.

    His diatribe on English and how wonderful he is really turns ones stomach.

    Good balanced objective political analysis on TVNZ is really dead.

  24. Miles says:

    Talk about mean, spiteful comments. Ardern is all bluster, no substance, and JC will be ideal to show her up as the empty airhead she is. Ardern can never answer a question, it’s all conversations and committees.
    Bring on the crusher, she will be more than ‘look at me, i am a celebriteeee.’ And by the way, Bill outpolled Jacinda by a country mile, even Winston can’t change that fact.

  25. Jenny says:

    Watching the contest for leadership of the National Party will be like watching two bald men fight over a comb

  26. Jenny says:

    Two National Party leaders have resigned their position for no apparent reason, one after the other.

    And so far none of their likely replacements have shown any interest in taking up the role.

    This comb is not very attractive, even to them.

    Good luck to the loser, who finally puts their hand up.

  27. Castro says:

    Collins would be great – the best chance to reveal the Natzis as the party of Chinese neo-colonialism. A Bridges Trump backed by a Collins-Pence will be a serious contender for 2020, however.

  28. Priss says:

    Good riddance Double Dipper!!