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Labour’s Ten Big Ideas as posted on the Standard.
http://thestandard.org.nz/labours-ten-big-ideas/
Laudible, impressive et al. I sure as shit hope they’re not listed in any sort of priority though.
If so, it shows just how far Labour has devolved and removed from any sort of fouding principles.
We get to number 5 before we even begin to mention the social – admittedly however, if ‘wealth’ is being seen more in terms of economic imperatives than anything else.
At least the signs of Labour finally ‘getting it’ are starting to improve I guess. Still a bit 3rd Wayish for my tastes.
We need to protect manual jobs for maintaining our workforce.
Otherwise we will have massive unemployment that will cause social unrest worse than we imagined!
So firstly we need to redistribute the wealth so we all share in the “common wealth” of our country.
Then figure out what jobs can we afford to give to robotics and pay these idle workers a “Living wage” as they loose to robots otherwise we will all suffer social unrest that we never have seen before.
Well considered thought from this columnist.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/the-flag-debate/78253159/duncan-garner-the-flagging-fortunes-of-a-leader-chasing-a-legacy
Duncan Garner: The flagging fortunes of a leader chasing a legacy
Prime Minister John Key has no time for losing, and runs a mile from political disasters.
OPINION: The flag referendum result gives all of John Key’s haters a rare chance to rejoice.
For once the prime minister has seriously misjudged the mood of the public.
And after all these years of preaching financial constraint, that’s $26 million down the toilet.
Every politician hates losing, but Key hates it more than anyone. It’s a big part of his success, both before and after entering politics. It’s what drives him.
He’s a chirpy, happy, likeable, positive, ambitious, calculating, smiling assassin.
I also respected Helen Clark. And she could be warm and likable – especially away from the cameras.
Key has no time for losing – runs a mile from political disasters, like they never actually happened.
The flag result is a disaster for him.
But it’s also not. He’ll say, ‘Oh well, we gave you a chance, we move on’.
But this was his idea. It was his baby. It’s an entirely own goal. And the people said, No thanks John.
The public’s given him a bloody nose, but that’s all he got. And he prepared himself for this result.
He’s headed off overseas to absent himself from all the fallout and dissection of the result, just as the Easter weekend began.
It’s a total news dead-zone.
It’s when all the disastrous news gets released. And buried. Total manipulation. Total master-stroke. Maybe a pure coincidence. Highly unlikely.
Key has so moved on. He did the same with the Northland by-election result – he shot through.
And it’s Easter and honestly, does anyone care anymore about this flag? I don’t. That was a big part of the problem.
So why did Key pursue a flag change in the first place?
Because this was supposed to have been his legacy project – a lasting symbol of his lasting contribution to the country.
It would have still been flying in the wind in 50 years’ time and we could all say that came in under Sir John Key.
He’ll get a knighthood too – but bringing those back is not his legacy.
So what is it? Does he have one? Not really.
He brought in tax cuts and sold half our assets. That’s not creating a legacy.
Perhaps borrowing money and being a happy-go-luck prime minister may end up being what we remember him for long-term.
His Government has borrowed close to $60 billion for future generations to pay back. That’s $8.5b for every year they have been in office.
That’s $164m for every week they have sat on the Treasury benches. They failed to balance the books in the tough times.
But did Key have much of a choice? Not really. He had to steer us through a global financial meltdown, collapsing tax revenues and a massive Christchurch earthquake. There was little option.
So his legacy is that he’s happy John Key.
He got National back in the game. He was trusted and well-liked by enough people to keep National in office.
He laughed, at himself at times, mangled his words, was sensible and pragmatic.
His legacy is that he could end up being the most popular prime minister of all time. A man with few economic options, so he traded on his personality.
On the other hand, Labour and its support partners had golden economic times while in power.
They delivered interest-free student loans in the form of an election bribe that National criticised – then embraced – in office.
Labour also gave us Kiwibank, paid parental leave, KiwiSaver, Working for Families, civil unions, a ban on smacking children, and legalising prostitution.
Now that’s a legacy. The highest praise possible is that none of this has been dismantled by National.
I’ll never forget the day Michael Cullen walked into a room in Parliament to announce a windfall gain in tax revenues (Kiwis being overtaxed) and then walked to another room to extend Working for Families to the middle classes at a cost of $500m.
It was raining money for Labour. It’s been years of pain for National.
For all the talk of nanny state and voters eventually turning toxic on Helen Clark she can look back on her time in power with pride.
She set a clear path and used every inch of her formidable personality to make things happen.
John Key may still be swamped with selfie requests in shopping malls, but that’s not the definition of a great leader.
Key has enjoyed a tonne of political capital and the disappointing thing is that he hasn’t used it for any meaningful, lasting project.
Surely that’s not good enough for a man driven by a deep ambition.
Some reasons NOT to vote for the NZ Labour Party…it is a follower of the right wing in the USA:
‘NSA must end planned expansion of domestic spying, lawmakers say’
https://www.rt.com/usa/337233-nasa-planned-expansion-representatives/
(….but ….Sir Michael Cullen of the New Zealand Labour Party has just agreed to expand domestic spying… and Andrew Little supports Hillary Clinton
‘New Zealand government plans further expansion of spy powers’
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2016/03/19/gcsb-m19.html
“Claims by Cullen and Reddy that their proposals would strengthen “oversight” of the spy agencies are a sham. The GCSB and SIS would be permitted to spy on anyone if they obtained a warrant from the attorney-general and a judicial commissioner. When agencies decided that an operation must be conducted “urgently,” they would be able to conduct warrantless surveillance for 48 hours.
Spies would also be given “immunities from civil and criminal liability” if they broke the law during undercover operations. The GCSB currently has immunity when acting under authorisation and for “any act done in good faith to obtain a warrant or authorisation.” This would be extended to cover SIS agents. Immunity would also be given to “anyone required to assist the agencies, such as telecommunications companies” and “human sources.”
‘One law for all spy agencies?’
http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/political/298493/one-law-for-all-spy-agencies
‘Trump or Clinton – who would be better for New Zealand?’
http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/political/298063/who-would-be-better-for-nz
Andrew Little: “Hillary Clinton offers a safe, steady pair of hands in the presidency which is why I think she would be attractive to a lot more Americans.”
Trump vs. Clinton
https://www.rt.com/shows/crosstalk/336868-clinton-trump-foreign-policy/
“The foreign policy establishment vs. the novice – Hillary Clinton vs. Donald Trump. Identified as a liberal interventionist, Clinton’s views are hardly distinguishable from those of the neocons. Trump, on the other hand, holds a number of unconventional – even controversial – foreign policy views. For better or worse, voters just might have a meaningful choice when they cast their ballots in November.
CrossTalking with James Jatras, Daniel McAdams, and Richard Goodstein.”
CHOOKY,
OUR OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE THESE NASTY NATIONAL MPS OUT IN 2017 IS UNDER THREAT BY OUR VOTE RIGGING SYSTEM NOW GOING ON AS IT HAS FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW.
SO WE NEED TO REQUEST THAT ALL OPPOSITION MPS TO FORCE ELECTORAL COMMISSION CHANGES.
REVIEW THIS VIDEO SERIES OF CLINT CURTIS NASA PROGRAMER WHO TESTIFIED UNDER OATH THAT HE MADE A VOTE RIGGING PROGRAM IN 2000.
THIS SAME PROGRAM SYSTEM IS SYSTEMATICALLY USED TODAY USING SECRET UNTRACABLE “SOURCE CODES” TO ALTER ELECTION RESULTS WITHOUT TRACE.
FULL 8 PART VIDEO IS 1 HOUR.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhBtfiRKaVY&ebc=ANyPxKqWPE89j0sOWw1wIvcn84ky9SLJcTkK3KQ-0QCxLHYp-Lp0XwxjokocnbWg8Yx6zVVD3TdyjFu3ObaIRvKOLdptKU7SSQ
Uploaded on Jul 29, 2009
Murders Spies And Voting Lifes: The Clint Curtis Story is an incredible documentary which tells the story of a computer programmer who was contacted by a private company’ with ties to convicted chinese spies, to write a program that could be used to rig elections…what follows is the breaking of a massive conspiracy in which there would be hard evidence of vote
my comment for all opposition MP’s. – If you want to win an election watch this video and change the electoral process now for the next election.
We in NZ are right now being targeted for a electronic internet voting trial for the next election! So we need to keep the paper voting papers to hold a backup independent manual recount audit, to see if these electronic internet voting systems are actually safe/accurate and free from hacking as they are reported to be prone to we are advised now. Opposition Parties must require that we keep the paper voting papers for at least six moths not the usual 28 days. So we can independently challenge any “Doggy” 2017 election results after they electronically tabulate those manual paper votes. And also make sure that we keep our right to hold the election using the paper voting system, as our backup audit in case we are critical of the doggy election results again next time. – See more at: https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2016/03/25/unpopular-opinion-the-flag-debate-hasnt-been-a-huge-defeat-for-key/#comment-330580
There’s a programme coming up on BBC world service radio about American poverty. Highest rates of poverty of any democracy in the world I THINK is what I heard the promo say – not surprising. Will have a focus on how housing problems contribute to their high rates of poverty. Sounds uncannily like a blast from NZs future….
The reporter said “highest rates of poverty of any RICH democracy in the world”, to clarify.
A further clarification…was just an interview with a “Harvard sociologist” who wrote a book on tenant evictions in Milwaukee, here’s a link to the book
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2016/03/eviction-matthew-desmond-housing/471375/
Still interesting but interview was pretty brief.
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