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  1. I don’t think anyone ever tuned in to RNZ for Mora or Chapman – they tended to get windfall listeners that hadn’t switched off after Kim Hill, or back in the day, Sharon Crosbie.

  2. I stopped listening to National radio about four years ago I would turn it on in the morning and off late at night now it’s just rubbish.

  3. And I’m sick of me me look a me so called journalists. eg Lisa Owen. Shrill. Superficial. Tabloid. FFS.

  4. As with you Chris, I was addicted to Nat radio from mid seventies.
    I’d had enough by mid noughties.
    The rot really set in with Sharon Crosbie’s slash and burn efforts in the early 1990s, after her return from her neoliberal indoctrination stint at Harvard. Of course she was only a pawn in the general scheme but the way she turned and fed on her own was disgraceful.
    Don’t share your nostalgia for Mora’s afternoon effort.
    Truth told, I’m still gutted by Sharon C pulling Dick Weir’s “Ears” programme. That was a middle finger from her toward the fostering of future audiences.

    1. That’s Shaaaaaaaaaaron Crosbie to you darling!. (/sarc)
      That said though, she’s probably ten times better than the current muppet at the helm. Apparently all good too with the teacher’s pet.
      There’s a lot of instances of the sabotaging of Radio New Zealand (oops, soz! The ‘re-branded’ RNZ).
      One thing’s for sure though: Thompson and his sidekick Hand Jive Willie were the last, and probably most pathetic attempt at destroying it (the Concert FM debacle). Obviously neither of them understand the concept of what public service broadcasting is or should be, both so ignorant, and into commercially-oriented ‘demographic targeting’ they didn’t anticipate the backlash. But rest assured, Thompson will carry on with his master-of-the Universe agenda.
      But then the same sort of shit seems to be going on at Auntie BBC. I don’t know how many times their marketing consultants have attempted to survey me with multiple choice questions – none of which fit what I actually think.
      And last time I looked, ‘the man’ was cruising on around $400k p.a.

  5. Yes a general lack of professional delivery. It’s all hyped up bonne ami repartee. And mistakes. One early morning female curator got the time wrong by an hour! Lots of (corrected) mistakes in the shipping weather report whish is delivered too fast. The midnight to 5 is now full of 40 min music music evaluations. One interview badly timed and cut off by the pips as was the end of one serial on the kids story program!

  6. Forgot!
    There is far too much use by journalists of adjectives. It’s not a ‘vicious’ cyclone! It is impersonal. It is not a clever interpretation just an interpretation. Adjectves are subjective!

  7. Forgot!
    There is far too much use by journalists of adjectives. It’s not a ‘vicious’ cyclone! It is impersonal. It is not a clever interpretation just an interpretation. Adjectves are subjective!

  8. “The answer, I believe, lies in the fact that they are the tragic heirs of Rogernomics”.

    You’re not wrong Chris – captured by the sad tenants of New Public Management.

    1. Sam: “Does anyone even own a portable radio anymore”

      Of course. But mine is tuned to Concert. I gave up on NatRad some time ago: it’s a lost cause.

      1. I thought my car had a radio in it but I checked and it wifi enabled. Thinking about it now I probably haven’t bought a radio in at least the last 25 years.

  9. I wonder if the appeal only to boomers is because of their age/group or because of their maturity. When we were young we were much more interested in listening to Collin Broardly out off the Barrier on Radio Hauraki.
    As we mature and especially settle down with a steady partner , partying becomes less urgent and considering the world affairs more concerning. I think every generation will go through the same evolution.
    D J S

  10. 0nce upon a time I used to be a devotee of RNZ. Nowadays it is trivial noise. I am usually walking between 6am and 6.30am. Catch news headlines and some weather traffic info.
    RNZ has the same headache of the print media, the internet.
    The worry is that zuckerberg will rule.

  11. “What we’re witnessing is a work of destruction in progress. ”
    Yep, well I’ve only given your post a quick read and you’re not going to hear the last of me. But I hope you know why its demise is on the horizon.
    The guy and his disciples are complete muppets, better suited to somewhere in advertising or commerce.
    And what is even sadder is that there is a ‘responsible’? Minister in a LABOUR gummint ffs! who either doesn’t give a fuck, or is out of his depth (sure as shit he is in the Justice portfolio). A lazy uni-tasker, but also a teacher’s pet who has come from a background in commercial TV. I’d put money on it that the fact that he’d been ‘in the media’ is the only reason he got his portfolio. But as useless as tits on a bull.
    But there’s life in the old girl (RNZ) yet, as we’ve seen when they tried to disassemble ConcertFM. Unfortunately The Wireless – which should have been ‘progressed’, was an early casualty of RNZ management’s agenda.
    The Labour leadership I reckon, should start to think long and hard – because it’s not just going to be that boomers are dying out with new kids in town, but there’ll still be a few middle class/upper middle class ardent and prominent RNZ devotees around who – along with the new kids in town are not going to be very happy.
    Thompson I think, misjudges his audience – it’s a lot broader than he thinks – but then he’s from the land of demographics and targeting. That’s the land where various assumptions are made – such as all young people don’t like classical music, and only a few of them are concerned with politics.
    All of which of course is antithetical to the concept of public service broadcasting.
    Plus of course the guy costs a fortune for being such a useless prick.

  12. It’s over. I was once a dedicated listener and passionate supporter but RNZ has gone so far down the woke loony rabbit hole that it’s just dry boring dribble with the occasional exception of a decent Morning Report interview.

    The rise of long form podcasts and the like featuring fascinating subjects and in depth interviews freely available at a time when I want to listen has torn me away from RNZ and I see no reason to return.

    That and they’re very dull now.

  13. It pays to take the long view and be philosophical and pragmatic, Chris.

    The National Radio you yearn for was a short-term aberration in the grand scheme of things, being an indirect product of cheap and abundant oil, and electricity.

    Abundant oil is no more: it was squandered in a decades-long orgy of overconsumption. It is currently relatively cheap because the world economy is tottering on the brink of collapse and demand is well down from peak. That said, oil prices are too low to support the industry long-term, and something is going to give very soon; either a further collapse of the oil industry or rapidly rising prices that choke off demand and cause prices to fall again (as happened in 2008).

    As for electricity, well NZ may or may not be able to keep its grid running beyond 2030. Recent events in Texas have clearly demonstrated just how fragile such grids are in the face of extreme weather events. And NZ is far from immune from severe weather events. ‘One-in-a-hundred-year events occur every second year now. And it will get worse. Much worse. Even a persistent high pressure system that provides balmy weather -such as we are experiencing now- has its downside in the form of drought that sees water storage plummet and hydro-generation plummet.

    We had the good times, and can remember them. I certainly would not want to be a youngster, facing the kind of future the rotten system has handed down to them.

    By the way TEOTWAWKI, The End Of The World As We Knew, occurred between 35 years ago and 15 years ago. We are now left with the remnant of the world we knew, propped up in the short term by the money-printing of central banks at close-to-zero interest rates.

  14. The male ‘Panelists’ have been neutered, whilst ‘Aotearoa’ is the semi-corporate re-branding of our history and current identity, in which we do not get a say in it.

  15. “Or, of introducing a radically Maori nationalist version of New Zealand history into the nation’s classrooms.”
    Which of these supposed characteristics of the new syllabus most alarms you Chris?
    “Radical”, “Maori” or “nationalist”?
    Elsewhere you have suggested that the syllabus will be hostile to the role of Pakeha in New Zealand history. That would be foolish and regrettable but not too surprising, because in its desperate efforts to avoid anything approaching a truly radical and nationalist perspective embracing Maori and Pakeha, the colonial regime invariably seeks to divide the one from the other.
    The regime’s right wing do this by way of a crudely anti-Maori rhetoric, and the left by asserting that it is Pakeha, rather than the British crown, that was responsible for the betrayal, dispossession and subjugation of Maori.
    The colonialist right and left seek to portray colonialism as a purely cultural phenomenon rather than as a political reality which can only be overcome through radical constitutional reform.
    I am afraid that you, Chris, for all your political insight, are one of the worst offenders against the truth in respect of the colonialist system. You persist in fostering racial antagonism, while remaining silent, or even tacitly approving, the continuing presence of a colonial regime in our land.
    Yes, we may be disappointed and even angered by the syllabus which the regime decides to put in place in its schools, but the truth will out. Our young people are not stupid. They will know the questions to ask of their teachers. They will also come to class armed with a good deal of factual knowledge.
    Either way, you are on a hiding to nothing. Whether you choose not to teach our history, or teach it from a false and biassed perspective, our rangatahi know who they are and where they are going.

  16. RNZ is easily fixed. Like all institutions it merely needs a clean out. Dump the hard-to-listen-to arrogant egos that have been on air for decades and recruit some new blood, i.e. young people. Our tertiary education system has been churning out fresh-faced journalists and broadcaster types for years but where do they all go? Some of them are genuinely talented and would provide a fresh face to the staid old school egos we have now.
    They need to ditch their formulaic entertainment formats and stop just paying lip-service to listener involvement…get some real and meaningful feedback channels operating.
    And could they please ditch the tedious market updates and rural reports? This is where their steadfast ideology sits. Blind acceptance of market capitalism and Kiwi rural stereotypes is far worse than their so-called ‘wokeness’ in my book. Where is the critical stance? The occasional pushy and tense moments with Judith Collins from the likes of Suzy Ferguson or Kim Hill just don’t cut it.
    Having said this though, it is unfair to say RNZ doesn’t have its moments of brilliance. Where else do you get critical coverage of climate change? (even if it is a couple of decades too late). Where else can you hear an intelligent review of the latest indie album of NZ music? Where else can you hear an appraisal of the latest Booker prize winner? Where else can you hear an interview with the latest academic expert on animal sentience, or human evolution, or the Fukushima meltdown?
    Keep going RNZ, I will forever support you, just sharpen up your act (reduce those ‘turn-off’ moments), and brush out the dead wood (easier said than done of course).

    1. Paul Judge: “Dump the hard-to-listen-to arrogant egos that have been on air for decades and recruit some new blood, i.e. young people.”

      Young isn’t necessarily better. Especially in today’s world. Many – perhaps most – of the young coming out of universities today are irredeemably woke. We need more of that on either NatRad or Concert like we need toothache.

      “The occasional pushy and tense moments with Judith Collins from the likes of Suzy Ferguson or Kim Hill…”

      There you have two of the reasons why I no longer listen to NatRad. Life is too short and all that….

      Ferguson has gone so far down the woke rabbit hole that I doubt she’ll ever find her way out.

      Kim Hill used to be a first-class interviewer. Used to be…..

      I’m a boomer. I’ve listened to NatRad for as long as I can remember: it was what our old radio was tuned to when I was a child.

      What we need in NZ is decent foreign affairs journalists. There’s no tradition of this sort of journalism here, and sadly, that also applies to RNZ. The closest it got was Michael Field, and he’s retired (or been retired), I think.

      The lack of foreign affairs journalism here has deprived us the citizens of the benefits of any critical coverage of international affairs over my lifetime.

      What we get instead – and most regrettably on RNZ – is news links from UK and US propaganda mouthpieces, presented uncritically. It wasn’t until the rise of the internet that it was possible for us to have access to critical and dissenting views of what’s been happening here and overseas.

  17. Oh for Christ’s sake – Do none of you see the poisonous corruption?
    Most of you innocently accept the accepted idea that RNZ is advertising-free. Utter Bollocks.

    After hourly news and also the ½-hourly headlines, we get blatant advertising spoon-fed to us with absolute regularity… RNZ advertising its own programmes. Back when intellectuals were real intellectuals, the National Programme would never have thought of lowering itself to advertising at all, let alone advertising its own programmes. But now bloody Marketers are promoted to the top to run our state media.
    National Radio apes its commercial inferiors every day, and every day more people accept advertising as normal. Not only does RNZ annoy me with those bloody silly advertisements for its own programmes. (I remember thinking Kim Hill was choking on her own vomit the first time I heard her descend to doing it, but now she seems to do it quite happily.) Also, it seems that NZ on Air must also be advertised, because in this stupid, commercialised era, every little state-run thing must pretend to be a commercial enterprise, have a corporate culture, and be advertised to the stupid public who are supposed to believe all the bullshit being spoon-fed.
    We should not be getting this bullshit from our state broadcasters.

    1. In Vino: “Most of you innocently accept the accepted idea that RNZ is advertising-free.”

      No we do not. Do you think that none of us had noticed what’s happening on RNZ?

      It’s even polluting Concert. It pisses me off: I’ve written to the station about it, but it does no bloody good.

      I also seriously object to RNZ’s attempt to change NZ’s name, for which endeavour it has absolutely no mandate.

      If there is to be a name change, let’s be having a referendum on it. I take exception to RNZ’s having snuck it into all presenters’ usage.

    2. Oh please! I don’t hear the endless segments advertising the Mad Butcher or the windscreen fixers or the home improvement conglomerates or any of the nonsense competitions to call in and win a free ticket to the latest Greenlane meat-eaters fest. Get a grip…a few promos telling you what is coming up on air is not only painless, it’s informative. And your nonsense about NZ on Air borders on conspiracy theory.

      1. “a few promos telling you what is coming up on air…” is just how they condition you to accepting advertising, sponsorship, and popularity ratings as the only way of operating. I think there definitely is a conspiracy to stifle anything other than the marketing-funded method. The greedy middlemen want it all – no state-funded alternatives.

  18. Gen X are in their 50s now – when do they get to run RNZ? Now. Predictable boomer moaning dressed up as comment. Calling anything you don’t like/understand ‘woke’ is predictable, boring and lazy. RNZ is finally connecting with its present audience – there has never been more people listening to it – do some research, rather than regurgitate the same old racist, cloistered and nostalgic bumpf the rest of us have moved on from. The demise of these silly old tropes and their champions is long overdue. Also, it seems the author requires his hosts to have fronted those hotbeds of political discourse – TV gardening shows – before being allowed to be taken seriously on RNZ. Give us a break Old Zealand.

    1. Billy Idol: “Predictable boomer moaning dressed up as comment. Calling anything you don’t like/understand ‘woke’ is predictable, boring and lazy.”

      What? Bradbury fulminates against wokery and all that identity politics nonsense. Surely you’re not calling HIM a Boomer, are you?

      And you should hear my offspring – who by definition couldn’t be of the Boomer generation – on the topic.

  19. “The hopes and aspirations, triumphs and challenges, of the generation that followed my own.”
    Glad to hear its contentious propositions debated?

    Does that mean there is a place for Sean Plunket, John Banks and Peter Williams?

    1. Yknow Bomber got cancelled from RNZ correct? Although there are many woke definitions I’ll use cancel culture to describe what I mean when I say woke I’m referring to small segments of the left who go around cancelling people. It is a mistake to adopt the principle of the corporate cancel culture to cancel voices they perceive as surplus to requirements. Big mistake.

  20. A bit harsh on some of RNZ’s hosts, I thought, Chris. Definitely unfair on Jesse Mulligan.

  21. Posted this over on the other version of this post:
    Spot on Chris. The place is actually been run by cast-offs from the 1980s. This is 80s middle of the road talkback, without the ads. It rates for sure, and they only care about the numbers now, because numbers prove it is relevant, and worthy of funding. As you say, they are fearful of any debate, of upsetting people. Sound like us? Yeah, nah. I used to listen to RNZ Nat probably 8 hours a day. I get my news from one hour of Morning Report, because they basically repeat the first hour three times. Just like RNZ National, the website has lost its way too. They haven’t won any awards for that, for years. Too much ‘visual journalism’, and not enough substance. They are stuck in the mindset that Facebook promoted that video is more engaging. Phil Pennington deserves credit for the stories, he breaks, and others, I’m sure, plus Māni Dunlop, and Julian Wilcox, for breaking through the racist culture that developed through the 90s. I’ve given up on Checkpoint, which was a guilty pleasure when Mary hosted. The current host is constantly saying if you want to see the pictures on that story go to our Facebook page. Who cares, I am in the car at that time. What a waste. Sunday is turning into The Panel, it won’t be long before the excellent Media Watch is relegated to the bin like Insight was, because it’s ‘not hosted by Jim’. The podcast productions have started to sound like a heavy-handed editor has taken to them. There is no innovation any more, it’s all so bland, and the music in the podcasts isn’t helping. Brain Crump, Katherine Ryan, and Kim Hill, and some of the older reporters and producers continue to be national treasures. So sad.

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