It’s the last day of campaigning today and the long list of those attacking Internet MANA got longer yesterday with Winston Peters backing Labour candidate Kelvin Davis against the MANA Movement’s Hone Harawira.
Davis is now supported by Labour, National, the Maori Party and New Zealand First to defeat Hone and bring down Internet MANA.
These parties are all committed to the same economic policies which have made the rich richer at the expense of the rest of us for the last 30 years and they feel VERY THREATENED by Internet MANA and its seasoned activists determined to bring change for families in low amd middle-income communities.
Labour, National, the Maori Party and New Zealand First do not support free tertiary education, free public transport, close the GCSB, building 10,000 state rental homes every year or government investment in jobs to ensure full employment.
Make your party vote count for these policies…
So damn glad I gave my party vote to InternetMana….and the only reason I gave Labour the electorate vote was because its a safe Labour seat.
I hope election night gives a boot up the arse to all those who see IMP as a threat and treated them as the black sheep of this election . They are not – we need more of the sort of social democratic ideals they embody.
We also need more of these seasoned , tough spirited campaigners who are not afraid to speak out about things that might be unpleasant , that might be things many would rather turn a blind eye to…but regardless….. bring this apathetic population kicking and screaming to HAVE to confront issues which need to be investigated.
We need only look at the latest revelations of Snowden , Greenwald , Assange , Amsterdam , and Mr Kim Dotcom himself.
And guess what….. 2017 Id like to see Mr Kim Dotcom running for a seat as well.
I did the same. Wow can’t believe we were such a minority. What happened to all those university students?
Im picking Cunliffe will need 3 extra seats on Sun morning .
Hes rejected Mana to play it safe in the centre but once the votes are in he will grab them in a heart beat .
Unless he does them in and then regrets it .Not so bright .
Voted Internet Mana party vote, and will be supporting Mana Movement
in community actions through the next term what ever happens in parliament, because parliament is just one area of politics.
Go Hone hope you make it and a few more with you. Most modern politicians would not have a clue about direct action and a class analysis and that is the type of leadership all the top IMP candidates would be able to provide. It will be a big shock for some kiwis to hear them in action!
“If democracy did any good, it would be abolished.”
Here we are seeing that process of abolition. That is why Labour won’t be getting my party vote and the only reason the local constituent Labour candidate is, is to get shot of the local Nat.
It also shows that the Labour Party and others have bought into the same type of cup-of-tea vote fixing and gaming the system that has disgraced elections in Epsom over the last two or three elections. It is no use saying ‘the right wing does it, why should we handicap ourselves?’ That greasy advantage will be offset by the widely held knowledge that the party for whom they vote is dealing honestly with the electorate.
But why should Labour give a rat’s bottom about the electorate now? They haven’t been over concerned about them since at least 1984…
My political cartoon concept for Labour: David Cunliffe standing forth, with the Labour caucus there, right behind him… knives at the ready.
“It also shows that the Labour Party and others have bought into the same type of cup-of-tea vote fixing and gaming the system that has disgraced elections in Epsom over the last two or three elections.”
Ummm did you notice how IMP are trying to coat tail in on Mana?
If IMP really backed themselves why din’t they go it alone.
If Hone loses it won’t be because other parties have thrown their support behind Davis, it is because NZers are well and truly over the antics of KDC.
Something Hone may have to reflect on tomorrow night if he doesn’t win TTT.
“If Hone loses it won’t be because other parties have thrown their support behind Davis, it is because NZers are well and truly over the antics of KDC. ” …. due solely to media $pin.
The next generation of Kiwi kids need exactly what IMP has to offer: access to advanced internet technology for their future, and food on the table for right now!!
What “antics” might that be, David?
Because thus far, KDC’s track record has been 10/10 – including a ministerial scalp and several Court victories.
He has not yet been caught out lying.
Your ‘spin’ is dishonest.
That there has been some sort of merger between the Internet Party and MANA might to a more informed mind be regarded in the same light as a coalition. Coalitions can take a number of forms, being a a close-knit alliance of parties post-election (I don’t think Maori and National parties formed a coalition quite, but it was pretty close), or a merger of parties into one at any time. The Alliance Party was just such a coalition, and the National Party itself originated as a coalition of two parties (Reform and Liberal, in 1936).
Coalition parties and governments have such a long history, that that between Internet and MANA scarcely raises an eyebrow. If ACT and National were to merge, very probably National would get more seats from the Party vote (and Epsom), but the gain would be less than it would achieve were ACT to win Epsom in its own right.
The problem I have is that ACT won’t win Epsom in its own right. National is treating that electorate as if it were in National’s gift, rather than its electors. By and large the electors will no doubt go along with this, but I wonder how many of them are happy about it?
Further, the New Zealand electorate voted for a Proportional Representation. National’s ‘gifting’ the Epsom electorate, and Labours ‘gifting’ of Te Tai Tokerau not only distorts that representation, it subverts the ‘will’ of the electorate at large. This in a manner that a coalition would not do, by the way.
In my view, that is plain dishonest. I’m not sure I want to see in power a party with a track record of electoral dishonesty.
Come to think on it, I reckon MMP should be reformed to remove altogether the 5% threshold thing. I quite fail to see the point of it if the system is to gamed the way it is. If a political party scores over 0.42% of the total vote (actually over 1/240 in a 120-member House), then it should be allowed one member. Simple.
Kelvin Davis being supported by Labour, National, the Maori Party and New Zealand First is irrelevant unless everyone who is a supporter of those parties votes for him in Te Tai Tokerau. They won’t.
Not just; “They won’t” (change all supporter votes in favour of Davis), but; “they can’t”. As more than a quarter of votes will have been cast in advance of September 20th.
National’s support is the kiss of death for Davis.
The Maori Party have brought in former Act Party candidate Peter Tashkoff to be the campaign coordinator for Te Tai Tokerau. That says it all doesn’t it.
The Right Wing Maori Party do not deserve to be returned to parliament.
Thanks a whole fucking bunch, Labour, the party of catch-up losers.
I have seriously considered changing my vote to Internet Mana from another left-wing party just in the last day or so. The party has done some truly heroic stuff in this campaign, unveiling the bad side of National and the PM, and how this party is not really out to help the common NZer. The engagement of the youth vote has been just as triumphant in my eyes. You have opened my eyes on media bias, and because your actions have threatened the current Government, the party has been crucified unfairly through the “mainstream media”. You won’t be thanked for your efforts by many, you’ll be called traitors and conspiracy theorists, but I am proud to call you true New Zealanders. Not selfish, not greedy, not sellouts, not conformists, like most of the rest of the New Zealand public who are completely unaware that they are any of these things.
Hone will win today. His electorate know him too well and he knows his people. He is one of them.
If Key manages to stumble over the line and form a third term Nat Govt it will be a circus and end in a disaster come farce.
It seems just about everything the nats have done in Govt has been corrupt and false much like the financial system that Key used to work in before they caused the GFC through greed and dishonesty.
Key and his corrupt ministers have yet to face the music for what they have done.
But I would recommend a boycott campaign against the DomPost, The Herald and a few other right wing rags.
The New Zealand media have been right in the center of Dirty Politics and their reporting has descended into counter factual Whale Boil type smears.
Every time the Nats are in Government the country gets meaner, harder and more corrupt.
But anyway I’m off to vote for democracy which means no filthy blue ticks from me 🙂 🙂
Peters’ support for Davis was the last straw. That was sheer hypocrisy from the man who is campaigning to abolish Maori seats. This was Winston Peters at his most blatantly venal.
Combined with support from the Maori Party, David Farrar, National, Whaleoil, et al, and that was enough for me. Davis is tainted. He does not deserve to be a Labour MP.
Tossing up between voting Green or IMP – I made my decision; http://fmacskasy.wordpress.com/2014/09/18/frank-macskasy-who-i-voted-for/
Kelvin who?
Abuse deleted. Still banned. Whaleoil beckons. – Scarletmod
WIN-WIN for national. They WIN the Treasury benches, and they don’t need WINston. Oh, yeah – and they have WINston to thank for Hone Harawira’s defeat in Te Tai Tokerau, which of course implies a net minus to the ‘Left’s’ presence in the House.
Suicidally dumb-arse politics, and not even honest dumb-arse politics at that. Labour is dead. It doesn’t know it yet, but it is bleeding to death: bleeding talent, bleeding support, bleeding credibility – and I will not be surprised if it begins on Monday to haemorrhage members.
Well, why should I concern myself any longer with such a loser Party? If they can not deal honestly and/or competently with the electorate, if in Opposition they remain ineffectual, then they clearly aren’t fit to govern.
That leaves us with this conundrum: how the hell are we to rid ourselves of National?
It’s been effective and deadly. At least now we know where things stand.
And from IMP’s point of view – weak risk analysis and response. (Just because you’re not paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not out to get you.)
The left need to learn that dirty politics didn’t work…never will…the country have spoken and trying to win on being negative and attacking never will work, either will taking dirty money from a German Criminal and thinking he had any idea how kiwi’s work. The left are in a corner now and will take a long time to recover…infighting, playing dirty, not appealing to more than 35% of the Country will never work.
The People have spoken …better luck next time…I forsee a 4th term already
“trying to win on being negative and attacking never will work”
Try that line on John Ansell.
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