Well, well, well – exactly as TDB called it, Paul ‘Mad Max’ Goldsmith’s vigilante powers are a recipe for social carnage, and note it’s not socialists and commies like me saying it, it’s your won police force you silly sleepy hobbits…
‘Counterintuitive’: Police slam Govt citizen’s arrest proposal as giving public more power than cops
Police have panned Government proposals to enhance citizens’ arrest powers as a backwards leap from the status quo, while also giving the public more freedom to arrest than cops.
This is revealed in police feedback on the proposals, released to the Herald under the Official Information Act, which outline a plethora of concerns.
Among them is the risk of low-level offending escalating into violence, and a lack of clarity on what counts as reasonable force, which police said could open the door to excessive vigilante justice for “taking a chocolate bar or genuinely forgetting to pay”.
“The public or retailers may take action they believe to be lawful that could result in either their action being legally challenged, or in the escalation of violence leading to physical harm to the public or the suspect – or both,” police said in feedback to the Justice Ministry in December.
…it’s the question everyone has been asking since Paul ‘Mad Max’ Goldsmith’s Vigilante Nation – GET YOUR BASH ON (trademark pending) was announced, can ZB Dads, Redneck Crackers and Culture War Boomers get to bash Māori kids…
- The Government wants to broaden citizen’s arrest powers so they apply to any Crimes Act offence at any time of day, and clarify “reasonable” force as including bodily harm in certain circumstances.
- They currently only apply to offences of a certain severity, with different thresholds during working hours.
- There is no specific protection for children or young people, which the Chief Children’s Commissioner says neglects their right to be free from all violence.
…everyone wants to know!
ZB Dads, Redneck Crackers and Culture War Boomers are salivating at the chance to beat up Māori kids suspected of shoplifting. They are the exact pumped up toxic masculinity males who will become judge, jury and executioner in scenarios like this.
Good social policy stops fellow citizens physically confronting one another.
Bad social policy enables citizens to physically confront one another.
Why does the Supermarket Duopoly have so much power? They already price gouge us and have mass surveillance face recognition powers, why are their profit margins suddenly sacrosanct enough to enable staff AND bystanders to physically attack suspected thieves?
ZB Dads, Redneck Crackers and Culture War Boomers will all believe at the outset of the physical confrontation that they can physically manage the situation, because men always tend to overestimate their abilities and they are going to suddenly be confronted by a very desperate person with little to lose.
This is going to be a recipe for fucking disaster.
Either the ZB Dad, Redneck Cracker or Culture War Boomer will get seriously injured by the desperate person they physically attack or they will hurt the Māori kid.
Either outcome will see an enormous explosion of anger from either side.
This is fucking stupid legislation.
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I can see groups of people cruzeing the streets looking for someone to beat up then say they were going to steal joe blogs shoes or something .What the hell doo we want the KKK in NZ for .Then they will be attacking the homeless like Trump did in Washington simply because they are homeless .Maybe Seymour will be passing an amendment to his euthanasia bill of a couple of years ago allowing for the homeless and sick to be injected by the mob as was suggested by one of his mates in the USA last week .
Agreed this is a stupid and backwards step. It will definitely increase violence in this country.
Was Charlie Kirk the result of a “citizens arrest”?
may be
Another diversion to cover up the continued failure of the COC.Even their doners are jumping on the band wagon and shutting up shop .Carter Holt is an indirect doner to the COC through its owner yet they have made 250 people redundant in a month and intend to flood NZ with low priced poor quality building products all at the request of the COC.
lUXON TALKS UP HIS GROWTH GROWTH policy but all he is growing is unemployment and poverty .Hell we are now going to cut out 100 years of peach growing so Watties a now non NZ owned company can shut up shop in the next couple of years .Live stock numbers are falling and the demise of horticulture is starting soon we will be a dumping ground for low grade low cost imports ,but what will we be selling to pay for that food ?nothing .When I was a kid we made toys here now we dont along with heaps of other stuff like cars .
Does this mean I can have a go at “ one minute “ Mike for assaulting my ears?
Knowingly implementing bad policy just to hoover up the votes of a particular demographic.
This government has no concept of the nation as a whole or the overall public good. They exist only to serve their favoured interest groups.
Do Goldstein’s new orders extend to white collar crime.
Are we allowed to go after those involved with fraud, money laundering, embezzlement, bribery, insider trading, and corruption. Surely he’s ok if we drag them out on the streets and give them a good pillorying.
Or do they get given a carrot instead.
If you think this is a good idea look at a Video from Victoria to see how bad things can get and a proper solution with proper security guards. But why do we have so many people who seem to have nothing to lose?
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