Graham Linehan Continues to Denounce Transgender Teen in U.K. Harassment Trial
Graham Linehan says he may never come back to Britain after arrest
Oh God kill me now.
For those who don’t care, and sweet Jesus do I consider myself in that category, Graham Linehan was once a funny writer and became so radioactive during the Trans debate, he has mutated into the kind of Uncle who listens to The Platform too much and doesn’t get invited to Christmas Dinner any longer.
I find it difficult to take Graham Lineham seriously, his current martyrdom as a free speech champion is as eye rolling as it is gag inducing.
The only thing more stupid than Graham’s fixation on hating Trans people are the insanely stupid UK hate speech laws that have allowed this bitch fight to have occurred in the first place.
Here’s the truth.
The woke are cray, their haters are cray and the law is being asked to step in and decide whose level of cray is the least toxic, which is almost impossible because both sides of this debate are intolerable.
For the billionth time.
When it comes to the whole Trans debate, I’m old fashioned. I think finding your true self and being comfortable in your own skin is one of the most important journeys of the human experience.
The idea that there are some men who believe they are women and some women who believe they are men and some people who believe they are both and some people who believe they are neither is as uncontroversial to me as the range of human skin, eye and hair colour.
Referring to someone by their preferred pronouns and identity is just basic good will courtesy offered to every fellow citizen.
If a trans person wishes to share a prison cell or locker room with me, I don’t care, but where I get cancelled by the woke is when I also agree that biological women have a right to philosophically and intellectually challenge some of the identity politics dogma that is being used here.
There is a legitimate debate between gender critical feminists and trans activists but what does it say about that debate when gender critical feminists have been pushed all the way over to the side of Nazis?
I have many self declaring feminist women who privately tell me they have real misgivings with some of the Trans woke dogma but are terrified of saying anything because the Fourth Wave Feminists, non-binary activists and trans ally vegan mommy bloggers rip them to pieces on social media. Part of the problem is that the Trans activists themselves have helped make this debate so radioactively toxic with their cancel culture dynamics.
For me the true tragedy here for the Trans community and the rest of the Identity Politics movement is how quickly their alienating and over the top attacks along with their fourth wave feminist allies have eroded and burnt so much of the good will the rainbow community had built in the 80s, 90s and 00s.
The rainbow community pre Trans activism had worked to make love and family inclusive, the new woke Trans activists built pure temple cliques that created diversity by cancelling everyone who didn’t agree with them.
This entire issue has caused immense damage on the Left and rather than debating the material well being of citizens, we are lost in middle class identity politics virtue signalling that censors rather than answers and in that cultural space, anger grifters like Posie Parker flourish!
And that’s all that is happening here with Linehan, he’s an arsehole, but criminalising him for being an arsehole is stupid, petty and only generates more transphobic hatred!
What is most angering however is pretending this dickhead is a free speech champion when the UK Police are arresting anyone for holding a Palestine Action sign…
UK police arrest around 425 at latest protest for banned Palestine Action
…that is where the Free Speech debate truly is, not a dickhead who is trying to antagonise nor the woke clowns so focused on alienating everyone else.
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This is the same type of law that Labour, Greens and the Maori Party will bring in if they win next year. The left can’t help itself it truly can’t.
That’s rather speculative Frank, in fact typical ZB like scaremongering. We are currently experiencing a wave of stupid law making under an absolute bunch of dipshits .
It is speculative although they tried to push something similar through last time but ran out of time. This is right in the wheelhouse of their likely coalition partners and after the Doyle saga there will be some demand for utu with respect to social media.
Expect it to not be discussed on the election trail BUT be implemented in any first term of a Labour/Greens/MP government. Again they can’t help themselves on this issue – nobody on the left can.
With the tide turning in the UK, have they left it too late?
More far-right talking points brainwashed slaves for sure
Frank the Tank & Prophet is it? Your credibility so far is hovering around zero, so just more idle gossip is about the kindest description of your thoughts.
Given Lineham was calling for people to commit violence against anyone in a toilet these thought may be trans, I’m totally comfortable with him being arrested and charged.
Why anyone would support Lineham is beyond belief. He’s the most obsessed bigot on social media.
Let’s try a different category shall we?
Attack any nuns you see, they could be a man dressed as a woman.
Punch Jews in the nuts. They’re circumcized therefore support genital mutilation.
Punch anyone you suspect of being different.
Lineham is a saddo who made his own bed and shat his own sheets.
As for “protecting women”, if he hadn’t become an obsessive bigot his own wife wouldn’t have left him. Seems he’s not interested in her thoughts on the matter. So much for listening to women.
Wonderful.
“Fourth Wave Feminists, non-binary activists, trans ally vegan mommy bloggers, Trans activists”
First rule of Labour electioneering “don’t say trans” except for transport policy and how to tax transnational service payments used by overseas corps and banks to extract NZs wealth.
What we see is a clash of two competing essentialisms. They are two incompatible ideas about what characteristics are essential (i.e. must always be present) for a person to be a woman.
For trans activists, the only essential characteristic is that you genuinely believe you are a woman, and that this is sufficient in all social contexts.
For gender critical feminists, the essential characteristic is that you were born biologically female, and that this must be the case in all social contexts.
The only way out of the impasse is to adopt a contextual essentialism*. This means that the characteristics that you regard as essential for a person to be a woman can vary according to social context. You might be happy to regard a trans work colleague as a woman and treat them accordingly in the workplace, but you might want some precautions about trans women sharing public loos with a female relative. Adopting this position will mean that neither side likes you, and it’s not without difficulties and ambiguities in practice. But it appears to be the only way out.
*Note – some people would see contextual essentialism as a form of anti-essentialism, but the distinction doesn’t really matter here.
Thanks AB reasoned approach to complex question. Usual from you it seems. We seem to have seen it similar before – in 1960-70 uprising of new ideas and cults. Vietnam war seemed to be the starter. Hair was the artistic fad.
I Got Life was about appreciating oneself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXXCajEDi28
Funny enough I have just been reading JK Rowling kwtc. Tries to deal with complex situations while being true to oneself I think. So go and transmogrify yourself if you are putting JKR down. It is suitable reading for young one’s looking for adventure in new fields of being etc.
A good summary and position, thanks
“You might be happy to regard a trans work colleague as a woman and treat them accordingly in the workplace, but you might want some precautions about trans women sharing public loos with a female relative.”
Interestingly though – this seems to be the position of most of the so-called ‘TERFs’ (aka modern-day witches). Single-sex spaces remain single-sex on the basis of biology, otherwise live and let live. It seems the TRAs can not accept this position though?
That position is generally not acceptable to trans people because it places them at significant risk of harm. At a minimum, being forced to use a facility that is gender neutral or does not align with the gender someone lives as outs them, which can result in that person being subject to discrimination and violence. It can also be extremely dangerous for transsexual people, who have changed their sex traits to those of the desired sex, to be in spaces for their birth gender – This is particularly true for transsexual women (Those born with male traits who acquire female traits), who may be subject to sexual violence from men.
Also, since at least the 50s, it has been common and legal for transsexuals to use the single-sex spaces of their acquired sex – E.g, transsexual women in women’s toilets. The position of trans people is already the status quo, and what is advocated by gender-critical activists is a massive change.
It’s a tough one. There is no easy solution, and one group or more will feel disadvantaged. Male violence, especially sexual violence, is the key problem indeed, agree with you there – not all men, but there is no reliable way to identify which men.
I do not see how this is tough. Transsexual people already use the facilities corresponding to their lived gender and acquired sex. This has been the case for decades and causes very few problems in practice.
Evidence shows that placing transsexual women in male spaces will lead to high rates of male violence against them. Expecting them to suffer violence because some non-transsexual women perceive them as threats is not reasonable. It is a profound violation of their right to safety, without a good justification.
The answer to male violence cannot be to allow men to seek safety in females’ single sex spaces.
Yeah, there is no easy solution, and one group or more will feel disadvantaged. Male violence, especially sexual violence, is the key problem indeed, agree with you there – not all men, but there is no reliable way to identify which men.
There is no easy solution, and one group or more will feel disadvantaged.
Male violence, especially sexual violence, is the key problem indeed, agree with you there – not all men, but there is no reliable way to identify which men.
Pardon the multipost, thought it wasnt working
Well I did a bit of genetics back in the day, and objectively nothing will change XY into XX or vice versa, though we transition salmon with testosterone as fertilized eggs, to produce functionally male fish without a y chromosome. Such niceties fly right over the head of trans activists however, and having been dogpiled by them somewhat frequently, I’m inclined to think that if they’re experiencing hatred that would be just karma on their behaviour – I quite liked the trans we knew about back in the day – Frankenfurter, Carmen etc. But the ones who want to kill JK Rowling (who took her current position in defense of rape victim whose assailant subsequently claimed to be trans) should be receiving the same treatment they’ve just had meted out to Graham Lineham.
As for the politics – there are no votes to be had in trans advocacy, and no human rights either. Only a very stupid party would have anything to do with it.
Actually, he was arrested because the unhinged bully literal went out of his way to attack people who were specifically transgender berating them online employed intimidating tactics relentlessly” posted abusive comments about a teenage transgender campaigner on social media before throwing her phone on the road, that called stalking and is a criminal offense in Aotearoa and intentional damage.
No – he was arrested because a bunch of self-righteous trans activists who have harassed him and ended his career, were able to abuse police powers to further victimize him.
He has been cancelled already, but that did not suffice to assuage the malice of the activists, who believe that they are entitled to force compliance with their objectively untrue views of gender.
We see the same kind of malice at work in Australia, in Tickle vs Giggle.
No…
You’re so very wrong.
If I were to post on Twitter:
“Stuart Munro is a threat to women, call the cops if you see him and if they don’t show up you should punch him in the nuts”.
Would you be fine with that?
Or would you like the justice system to intervene?
Because that’s what Lineham has done. Asked all his bigoted fuckwit followers to become toilet vigilantes.
When we have the Spinoff claiming “‘woman = adult human female’ [is] a common anti-trans refrain”, you just know this BS is coming here too.
Ironically, after the UK has reached a tipping point and reality is resuming the ascendency
Sex is binary and immutable in humans. All else must follow from that
Linehan has been arrested because he advocated for people to commit the crime of assault against transsexual women, and because he has harassed a minor. This is not a free speech issue.
Also, the reason trans people are so opposed to the gender-critical set is because they argue for significant changes which would endanger trans people. Transsexuals have been using single-sex spaces of their acquired sex for literal decades. Forcing them to use facilities that do not match their bodies outs them, making them vulnerable to violence, and would put them in spaces that are unsafe. This is especially true for transsexual women, who have acquired female sex traits and would be subject to male violence if they were forced to use men’s facilities.
I can understand objections to certain aspects of modern gender theory, but I think it is irresponsible to treat positions that would cause profound harm to transsexuals if implemented as serious and respectable.
We have to consider this in the light of the enormous numbers of death threats made against JK Rowling, and Lineham himself has received “harassment, abuse, and threats”, with no comparable police action or investigation.
So it is irresponsible to pretend that trans activists are an innocent party solely motivated by legitimate safety concerns – they want utu, and they will dogpile anyone who points out that their claims are not merely false, but in some instances threaten public safety.
The extremism of this movement needs to be curtailed – the canard that ‘all knowledge is socially constructed’ cannot reasonably be extended to the point of allowing groups to push children to become castrati like the medieval church.
Why are you so concerned about “trans activists”? You seem very more focused on the behaviour of some nebulous group of people. You don’t seem concerned about the real threats to the rights and safety of transsexuals. I think that’s callous.
Oh dear, another basic biology dumdum. And plenty more of them above.
So thickies, these people do not identify as female and the medical establishment doesn’t either.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19155947/
So tell me, which toilet should they use?
Are their pregnancies illusory? That’s what the terfs think.
And “adult” is simply a legal / administrative term. In the US you can cross a state border and swap from adult to not-adult with a step.
If you were an adult, you would know this. That’s why it’s a tell for a terf, too obsessed with other peoples bits to engage their brain.
DSDs are different from trans-identifying, right? And none of them change sex?
IDGAF. Why don’t you mind your own business?
That exactly what women are saying to men.
The only issue I see here is people not minding their own business.
Cheese has slipped off his cracker.
Get himself turned into a eunuch and all those thoughts go away.
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