Now David Seymour is starting fights with the United Nations

Less Atlas Shrugged and more Atlas humped.

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Here we go again, David Seymour is right, and this time, the United Nations is wrong…

David Seymour criticises UN official over indigenous rights letter

Deputy Prime Minister David Seymour has told a United Nations official their views on the Government’s indigenous rights agenda are wrong and “an affront to New Zealand’s sovereignty”.

Last month, the Government received a letter from Geneva-based Albert K. Barume, the United Nations’ Special Rapporteur on the rights of Indigenous Peoples, a sort of watchdog for indigenous rights.

The letter addressed to New Zealand’s representative to the UN in Geneva for distribution to Foreign Minister Winston Peters and the wider Government concerns “allegations” Barume had received about the erosion of indigenous rights in New Zealand under the coalition.

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Barume said he was “particularly concerned” with the Regulatory Standards Bill, which he said “excludes Māori traditions [tikanga] and fails to uphold the principles of partnership, active protection, and self-protection guaranteed under the Treaty of Waitangi”.

“I am preoccupied that the bill threatens Māori-specific laws that address structural inequalities in matters relating to, for example, land, language and environmental stewardship, and because it seems to impose a monocultural legal standard, marginalising Māori as legal subjects without respecting their own governance frameworks”.

Seymour hit back, writing in his capacity as the Minister for Regulation, saying he found the letter “presumptive, condescending, and wholly misplaced”.

…the balls on this guy.

Fresh from a speech accusing everyone else of being mean and demanding ‘why-can’t-we-all-just-get-along’ after he’s taken a huge shit on the table during Christmas Dinner and not understanding why no one wants to pull a cracker with him, it’s his favourite game, ‘I’m right and everyone else is wrong’!

This time with the UN.

Less Atlas Shrugged and more Atlas humped.

When it was the Treaty Principles Referendum, every academic, expert, Iwi and critic were all wrong and only David Seymour was right.

Now it’s the Regulatory Standards Bill and lo and behold, every academic, expert, Iwi and critic are all again wrong and only David is right.

Here are the smartest people in New Zealand…

Open Letter Calls For Halt To The Undemocratic Regulatory Standards Bill – Jane Kelsey

As some of the country’s senior lawyers and researchers in a range of disciplines (law, economics, Tiriti o Waitangi, public policy, environment), including a former Prime Minister and two New Zealanders of the Year, we cannot stand by as the Regulatory Standards Bill is rushed through a parliamentary select committee next week.

Each of us has written extensively and spoken out against this Bill from our respective areas of expertise. Many of us have done so for the three previous iterations of this Bill when it was promoted unsuccessfully by the Act Party and the Business Round Roundtable (later, the New Zealand Institute).

On each of those occasions Parliament has rejected the Bill as philosophically and legally unsound, profoundly undemocratic, and contrary to Te Tiriti o Waitangi.

This time the Act Party has sought to bypass rigorous parliamentary scrutiny by securing commitments from the National and New Zealand First parties to legislate the Bill into law. There was an opportunity for public submissions on the proposal late last year, where it secured the support of only 0.33% of the over 23,000 New Zealanders who expressed their views on the consultation document. It is evident that the advice in virtually all the submissions was ignored by the government.

The Bill could have profound constitutional consequences. It establishes a set of principles as a benchmark for good legislation/regulation, many of which are highly questionable and designed to establish a presumption in favour of a libertarian view of the role of the state – one that ceased to have any currency globally more than a century ago. Te Tiriti o Waitangi has been excluded altogether. The power vested in the Minister for Regulation and a ministerial-appointed board is not subject to the normal accountabilities of Crown entities, conferring significant yet largely unaccountable authority on the executive.

Dr Jim Salinger, 2024 New Zealander of the Year, further notes the chilling effect the Bill will have on any future policy on climate change and adaptation following the almost $4 billion cost of the 2023 Auckland Anniversary weekend floods and Cyclone Gabrielle, the highest in our history.

While there is a select committee review of the Bill, it is truncated and circumscribed. The Coalition government has decided to submit the Bill to the Finance and Expenditure Committee rather than the Justice Committee, limiting the time to hear many tens of thousands of oral submissions to just 30 hours – at most 360 submissions – with 5 minutes per submitter, and truncating the period for those hearings and the committee’s report, further exposes the hypocrisy that this Bill is about good governance, better laws, improved regulation, greater transparency and enhanced governmental accountability. We are gravely concerned that the National Party and New Zealand First appear to be complicit in this undemocratic process.

We have each thought long and hard about whether to say we want to challenge this Bill before the select committee, lest it give some credibility to a process that is devoid of legitimacy. Some of us, such as Professor Dame Anne Salmond, 2013 New Zealander of the Year, and Professor Andrew Geddis, made written submissions, but feel there is no point in participating such a harmful process.

Professor Emeritus Jonathan Boston, Dr Geoffrey Bertram, Dr Bill Rosenberg and Dr Max Harris have indicated they want to address the committee to reinforce their submissions. In Professor Boston’s view: “The current Bill is destined to have a very short and ignominious life as an Act of Parliament: it enjoys virtually no public support; it lacks cross-party backing; it is opposed by the very Ministry that will be responsible for its implementation; and it endorses principles that have been found wanting by multiple generations of people throughout the world”.

In similar vein, long-standing academic critic of the Bill Professor Emeritus Jane Kelsey feels a responsibility “to speak truth to power” – in this case the abuse of proper process and the Act Party’s ongoing contempt for Te Tiriti o Waitangi.

For a time it appeared the Sir Geoffrey Palmer, former Prime Minister and Minister of Justice, Professor of Law at Te Herenga Waka/ Victoria University of Wellington, author of numerous books on parliamentary constitutinalism, and staunch critic of the Bill, was originally not invited to address the select committee, despite saying but he wanted to be heard. He was subsequently offered an opportunity.

All of us appeal to the National and New Zealand First parties to find their democratic voice and prevent this Bill from proceeding past the select committee.

Equally importantly, they are calling on Speaker of the House Gerry Brownlee, as the Chair of the forthcoming review of Standing Orders, to conduct a first principles review of the select committee processes to find an appropriate balance for democratic participation in the digital era, and an effective way to reinstate some degree of integrity and rigorous review to law-making in Aotearoa New Zealand.

Dame Anne Salmond

Sir Geoffrey Palmer

Professor Emeritus Jonathan Boston

Professor Andrew Geddis

Dr Jim Salinger

Dr Geoff Bertram

Dr Bill Rosenberg

Dr Max Harris

Professor Emeritus Jane Kelsey

…and yet David is right?

Is it fair that David Seymour has so much self esteem when the people his policies hurt have so little ego?

The Regulatory Standards Bill is a neoliberal trojan horse that will allow corporations to vet all legislation to ensure property rights are put above human rights – why would we effectively allow a Taxpayers’ Union on meth to be given a $20million dollar per year budget to run policy interference for corporations?

Why are we allowing the Deputy Prime Minister to respond with such incivility to genuine and legitimate issues raised and play the race card when it suddenly suits him?

“As an indigenous New Zealander myself, I am deeply aggrieved by your audacity in presuming to speak on my behalf and that of my fellow Māori regarding legislation that aims solely at ensuring clarity, consistency, and accountability in regulatory processes.”

…it’s remarkable how he uses his identity when it suits him.

 

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23 COMMENTS

  1. Mr 8.5 % telling a world organisation what to do…

    hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

    • This is what walking talking stupidity looks like….

      This naive egomanic is a danger and a menace to New Zealand society…

      …he still believes his stupid centralised school lunch programme disaster is a success story when any fool can see that he has made an absolute hash out of something that was originally working brilliantly…
      ie ..local people using locally sourced food to make lunches for
      local schools.

      He’s he real nowhere man,
      making all his nowhere plans
      for nobody…yeah except himself!

      There is no doubt that he has a mental disorder…
      but the rich love to pour their money into people with mental disorders…look at Trump!

  2. I repeat from my earlier blog on 9/7/25 “ Seymour has to be the most vain, arrogant and pig-headed politician that NZ has ever had.” It’s totally unacceptable for NZ’ers to be held to ransom over the dangerous Regulatory Standards Bill being forced down their throats by the leader of a minor party that only 8% of the voting public elected. 92% of NZ’ers don’t support this Bill! How does this happen in a democracy? Even with the CoC’s backing it is a Bill that needs lots more deep discussion. So again, Luxon, time to man up and face the music instead of leaving the obnoxious Seymour to run amuck. Also where is our media? Oh of course we don’t have fair unbiased media any more – another pathetic, selfish bunch hiding from reality.

    • This happened because Luxon was only interested in adding a trashing of NZ to his CV .His entitled ,I dont care attitude ,was not important so long as he had being PM of a small country is on his CV .The fact that he has sold the country to the big money end of town does not matter to Luxon because he thinks he is one of those elite people because he thinks he is sorted .And his attitude is fuck you all losers .

  3. Some people have personality disorders that cause them to seek attention. They don’t care if the attention is approval or disapproval. It’s all good as far as they are concerned. Anything that makes them stand out.

    Unfortunately, we have an abundance of such people in our parliament and the worst one is David Seymour.
    No amount of disapproval will deter him. These people twist words and make up outrageous lies that may have a small ring of truth to some people. Maybe 8%, perhaps wealthy people who don’t have to struggle in life.

    Sooner or later, they say something absolutely mad and we know for sure, that they have crossed a line and aren’t sane and will continue to harass and threaten us.
    Most of us, 92%, have known this for some time but we don’t have much power and are dependent on wealthier, cleverer people to defend us against tyranny. Our Excellent academics, lawyers, ex-Prime Ministers, scientists, humanitarians, humble Christians, indigenous people and numerous others have been defending us well.
    But as we know any attention, whether from the highest or the lowliest fellow citizen, is grist to Seymour’s little mill.
    Sadly, it will take something more than the normal processes to rid ourselves of his threats to our country.
    Today is Bastille Day and it would be a good day for Seymour to reflect, if he’s still capable of that, on how
    people solve their problems of feeling downtrodden by powerful overlords who do not listen.

  4. ‘Seymour hit back, writing in his capacity as the Minister for Regulation, saying he found the letter “presumptive, condescending, and wholly misplaced”.
    Therefore he immediately addressed, and countered, the criticisms in it. ………….didn’t he?………………..didn’t he? (Is that crickets I hear chirping ?)

  5. Makes me wonder if Seymour’s record of failure has come to the attention of his masters and they’ve said he’d better fire off a good big shot somewhere, hit something significant or else.
    Everything he’s touched has failed. His involvement appears to be the kiss of death for most of the legislation this CoC has tampered with.
    A reaction this idiotic, says more than we think. I’m sure the UN is having a good laugh. Another one outed.
    That’s a problem he has. He has to retort, get the last word.
    I keep imagining him in the headmaster’s office, every other day, making yet another sniveling complaint about some imagined slight.

  6. When you have countries such as Qatar, Congo and Columbia on your Human Rights Council you have no right to lecture others on this topic. Seymour is correct as much as most hate it here in regards to the UN getting involved in this.

    • No he is not, he’s one ego driven lone voice against many countries. Downplaying it by singling out 3 countries is actually not that bright.

      • I believe such stalwarts of human rights such as Russia and Saudi Arabia have also been members on the human rights council.

      • If the so called super powers of the USA ,RUSSIA,AND CHINA ,did not have veto rights you would find the UN would be a very powerful entity .How can such an organization be called UNITED when the 2 war mongers have power to veto anything they dont like .Dick head DAVID thinks he is one of those super powers .

        • Why should a partisan non-elected organisation half a world away determine the interpretation of NZ laws? Like or loathe it – Seymour got elected to parliament and ACT forms part of government. The UN didn’t/is not.

          Take the UNs position and see if the majority of NZs population agrees with them.

  7. Based on his track record, when he dies, Seymour will pick a fight with God. “Look, God, I know you’re an omnipotent deity and all, but I don’t think you fully understand the implications of my ‘David Should Get Preferential Treatment In The Afterlife Because He Knows Everything About Everything Bill’…”

    Incidentally, watching Professor Jane Kelsey give both barrels to him during her submission on the RSB was comedy gold. There is no love lost between Jane and David. She was mad and it was glorious.

    • OH the old look over there deflection .Dont point the finger at any other nation when our own human rights are at the lowest of the low as the royal enquiry into torture in state care found .Now you and your political masters are sweeping under the carpet as fast as you can .We are a disgrace when it comes to human rights and the last 200 years of history will always tell the world that .Hence the reason the COC do not want NZ history taught in schools .

  8. Our trading partners don’t take any notice of the UN, so why should we. Frank the Yank is right. The UN is a club for despots and war criminals.

  9. Sadly the UN has been taken over by the war lords of the USA and Russia .You only have to see how any moves to stop the wars in Ukraine and the genocide in Gazza are vetoed by those two even though the other 100 plus nations have voted to take the required action .Much the same as here in NZ the 8% is attacking the 92% because the so called Leader is piss weak.

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