Latest Roy Morgan Poll out and it’s fascinating:
National: 31.5% (+0.5)
Labour: 29% (+0.5)
ACT: 12% (+3)
Greens: 11.5% (-2.5)
NZF: 6.5% (-2.5)
TPM: 4.5% (-)
D: April 28 – May 25
The trend is the Coalition losing more ground but it highlights how low Labour and National are and how desperate voters are to vote for the fringe.
It also reminds everyone not to underestimate ACT.
The real insight is the collapse in confidence…
New Zealand Government Confidence Rating dropped 17pts to 80.5 in May
…and the way the Left have burnt off men voters…
Men favour National/ ACT/ NZ First by over 20%; women favour Labour/ Greens/ Maori by 10%+
…our woke middle class activists drove male voters into the arms of the reactionary right and the Left is still reeling from that cultural dislocation.
Well done wokies, your manufactured identity is far ore important than the common ground between us.
Brothers, Comrades, Mates & Fellow Blokes
There is a place for you on the NZ Left!
Just because you have a penis doesn’t make you toxic!
Don’t feel alienated by the more woke voices of the Left, you should not side with the corporations and the Billionaires and the speculators.
300 000 years of evolution that have gifted you the altruism to protect isn’t a sin!
As a man AND as a citizen, you have an obligation to protect everyone weaker than you, and you should stand against corporate interests, implemented because our anger and alienation have been manipulated by their social media hate algorithms.
Look.
We hate each other thanks to social media.
While we hate each other more than ever before, we are more lonely than we have ever been before.
We are lonelier, more depressed and sicker.
Our loneliness, our depression, our sickness are all fomenting the spin of social media hate algorithms which only further polarise our debate into All Tribe and No Village politics.
I think we are a clever ape who has evolved over 300 000 years. Because we have to compete against other sentient and self conscious clever apes and work with them as groups so our intelligence and ability to use tools could change our environment, we have had to bond and understand each other over hundreds of thousands of years of evolution.
When we meet in person, our bodies and brains and taking in millions of different details subconsciously and we are working each other out through facial cues, pheromones, gait, stance, smiles, eye contact, etc etc etc: we have taken those 300 000 years of evolution and replaced that with flat screen interaction where we lose all that unseen evolutionary advantage and instead become brainwashed and trapped in rabbit holes of demented reality.
Flat screen interaction is warping our human capacity to tell what is true and what isn’t because we don’t have that sense of the person in front of us and all the million ways we asses each other in our evolved brain.
We have become an ocean of spite and resentment in an All Tribe No Village politics distorted by social media hate algorithms because 300 000 years of evolution can’t work in a flat screen interaction loneliness.
We need got fight against this anathematizing of our hopes and aspirations.
Turn that flat screen interaction into a platform where we can challenge this empty intimacy!
Brothers, Comrades, Mates & Fellow Blokes
There is a place for you on the NZ Left!
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Certainly, I can’t see how any man could vote for a canadian mutant like Seymour who takes his orders from Jeffrey Epstein’s relatives.
You do realise Epstein was a democrat right?
And Trump a Republican sex fiend, so?
Frank so was Trump, essentially
Exactly…of course it’s bullshit…Act have bots everywhere corrupting Roy Morgan…it’s pure desperatiob.
In actual fact Act are tanking big time…6.5% is where they actually sit.
Seymour has been exposed for the fraud that he is and Van Velden has
been exposed as the biggest airhead since Paula Bennett…no mean feet.
There is no way that 12% of the population are voting for that dippy duo!
Farmers love Nat/Act/NZF, Labour got 3% in latest Curia poll, Yikes!
A Federated Farmers-funded poll of 1000 farmers shows what most already know: they support National. But a large portion also supports ACT and NZ First. As for Labour and the Greens? They’re barely out of the starting blocks.
National:54%
ACT:19%
NZ First:8%
Labour:3%
Greens:2%
Te Pati Māori:1%
Other:1%
Unsure:12%
So no change to the polls from decades ago, National are prostitutes to the Federated Farmers union.
You’d vote the CoC too if you were given the massive tax breaks Farmers get. They are all buying up large at field days thanks to National, meanwhile women have to fight like fuck to get pay equity. It’s blindingly obvious to anyone that has got any intellect. Sadly the right wing on this site aren’t in that category.
There appears this desperation for some good news, so the Field days are enjoying the spotlight at the moment. Its the old backbone of the country theme that includes when farmers get the cheque book out we all prosper. Sadly “intellect” is not necessary or required to vote in NZ.
Farmers are smart people and the fact they support National coalition proves it . The tractor salesman was rapped in the number of new tractors he expected to sell.This money will find it’s way through the economy and we will all benefit .The budget has kick started the economy by helping the farmers who have always been the backbone of NZ
“This money will find it’s way through the economy and we will all benefit”
Good lord and you still believe in that trickle down bullshit, you really are naive.
The budget has helped farmers/landlords but destroyed working women, the 500,000 needing food banks, the homeless, kiwisaver accounts etc etc etc but it’s okay, farmers will save us all, fuck off you idiot!
Farmers are smart people and the fact they support National coalition proves it .
It’s like farmers are on the benefit and the CoC dole out the money to them left right and center.
How does a $10 block of butter and $16 block of cheese benefit those on the minimum wage Trevor? You are typical of the right wing in that you are elective and insular in your thinking.
If what you say is correct why not give every worker not just farmers huge tax breaks as this money will find it’s way through the economy and we will all benefit ? See how your comment works, one group and not the many.
Yep it will find its way out of the AUS bank to the tractor dealer who will lent the farmer the money who will pay it and the massive interest bill to another AUS bank .The end result none of that money will stay in NZ and adding the interest means a net loss to NZ .
Forget the farmers. Labour needs to inspire the 22% of registered electors who didn’t vote last election. Grab half of them and it’s in the bag.
‘Labour needs to inspire the 22% of registered electors who didn’t vote last election. Grab half of them and it’s in the bag.’
Got it in one John.
” There is a place for you on the NZ Left ”
Who are the men on the political left that will appeal and understand the issues and concerns of working class males and have a strategy that’s going to talk directly to them and have the polices worth turning out to vote for and then keep their support ?
Men with children to raise and financially support. Communicating in their reality.
Bernie Sanders may have some ideas since he has been successful in establishing a constituency of all age groups.
LINO had their chance to re set the narrative and put in place a long term government.
They blew it. They are still in denial of why they lost.
29% says to me Hipkins and his party is not even a viable alternative.
Men won’t vote for party that only knows how to sleepwalk to the next election.
It’s time for people on the ‘left’ to stop talking about ‘the left’. Abolish the term.
Talk instead of concrete things: minimum guaranteed family income, free health care, free early childhood care and education, free schooling, jobs for all, affordable housing, security in old age.
Unfortunately this is still so true. Hipkins can’t see reality for the mist of his own ego, he can only see his reflection in the bathroom mirror whispering ‘you made it’. He repeats this to himself ad infinitum. It’s how he can justify all his stupidity, his ‘captains calls’ that utterly blew up the mandate and political capital Labour won, causing David Parker to quit. Somebody needs to tell him. To hand the leadership over to Willy. It’s a total disgrace that with this terrible Coc up government Labour isn’t polling much much higher. It’s his fault and he needs to go. Any other leader with a brain would’ve after the defeat.
Orr said we need more money to keep NZ afloat. Willis said no, we will take it from women and kiwisaver and give it to farmers and big business. Orr resigned.
” Orr said we need more money to keep NZ afloat. Willis said no, we will take it from women and kiwisaver and give it to farmers and big business. Orr resigned ”
Damn right.
“As a man AND as a citizen, you have an obligation to protect everyone weaker than yourself.”
No good deed goes unpunished. You’d be prosecuted if you did protect anyone, or everyone
just lie to get in and then do what you want – everyone else does – lol
Ardern AND Hipkins really dropped the ball on the cannabis legislation – they should have decriminalised it.
and they fucked up on Covid once it was in the wild – trying to put that genie back in the bottle with mandates was madness. Hipkins is toast – he needs to move on.
If I were a man, I wouldn’t be enthused about Hipkins. Not much real-world experience before politics. Worked as a ‘policy advisor’ and ‘training manager’. Hardly a strong recommendation for anything. Sounds like he’s a professional talk-fest attender. Says he likes sausage rolls.
Honestly, what is there to attract men?
I’m a woman and he doesn’t impress me either.
Please Labour, we don’t know him personally, he may be a nice guy. But the little we see of him is unimpressive.
Please replace him with someone who looks as if he knows one end of a spade from the other.
Your fortunes could change over night.
Seymour only gets male attention because he’s a show-off. Other men love that. They like the audacity of it without understanding he’s a tacky, shallow poseur who is using them.
If I were a man, I wouldn’t be enthused about Hipkins. Not much real-world experience before politics. Worked as a ‘policy advisor’ and ‘training manager’. Hardly a strong recommendation for anything. Sounds like he’s a professional talk-fest attender. Says he likes sausage rolls.
Honestly, what is there to attract men?
I’m a woman and he doesn’t impress me either.
Please Labour, we don’t know him personally, he may be a nice guy. But the little we see of him is unimpressive.
Please replace him with someone who looks as if he knows one end of a spade from the other.
Your fortunes could change over night.
Seymour only gets male attention because he’s a show-off. Other men love that. They like the audacity of it without understanding he’s a tacky, shallow poseur who is using them.
Hear hear
If Luxon and Hipkins had a decent talk we could have sensible government with no ACT, NZF, Greens or TPM. What a sensible idea. Get rid of the MMP clingons.
Scary because there are no leadership qualities between the two of them.
” Orr said we need more money to keep NZ afloat. Willis said no, we will take it from women and kiwisaver and give it to farmers and big business. Orr resigned ”
Damn right.
Given the steady slide of both National and Labour consider this scenario at time of the 2026 election.
Envisage this – National 27% and Labour 25% – there is a lot of slack to be picked up. Where will it go?
For the past 30 years the left have made to many unrecoverable mistakes. Anyone who archives they pull em down. This attack on men particularly white men have ruined our leadership in a really bad way – it’s unrecoverable.
National have not made any mistakes because they have done nothing except take bribes from rich pricks .Just look at the donations from the horse industry which were rewarded when the COC crushed the dog racing industry because they did not donate to the COC .tHE HORSE PEOPLE THINK THAT IS GOING TO FIX THE DWINDLING NUMBER OF PUNTERS ,but that wont happen because the punters have moved on from racing and punt on other sports instead as they are finding out big time in AUS .The millionaires over there are shitting and trying to sell major race course in Sydney to prop up the industry .
Yes, I did wonder what was behind that moment of compassion for racing dogs. Just as bad if not worse for racing horses. Not to mention the jockey.
There is nothing about Labour to attract hard working young men in New Zealand, indeed they are made to look guilty of sins they never committed.
Mean while the farmers are spending up large using bank money adding to the $450 billion of private debt we owe to the overseas banks .All so they can get that 20% back forgetting they will have to wait 12 months and will still have to pay the balance and interest .More foreclosures in the near future .
So many stupid tales of banks lending so much money to farmers hand over fist which they cannot pay back and so top themselves. Sorry. Not sorry. Sorry for dumb and hopeful/ desperate farmer. Not sorry for banks. Sorry for every other little person who could not get that small mortgage for their first home, payments of which they would never have reneged on. Not sorry for farmer who just had to hold their hand out to get millions.
Meanwhile on TDB’s Greta post, “Strangely it’s mostly white middle aged men that attack her.”
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