Labour will be deeply disappointed in this result but they shouldn’t be surprised.
The Greens ambitious budget and the disproportionate penalty agains the Maori Party easily took points from Labour who despite a powerful performance by Chippy still don’t have any actual policy that will materially change peoples lives.
What does this actually mean?
It means Labour have run out of soft middle National vote to take and the Left still have no means of winning men back to the Left.
NZ culture and society have become so polarised by Social Media Hate algorithms manipulating resentment we get All Tribe No Village politics.
This polarisation is seeing voters drift from Labour to Greens and Maori Party and it is seeing National bleed out to NZF.
Look at how many fringe parties have support thanks to the polarisation…
…National lost the budget yet Labour didn’t benefit.
ACT will be disappointed and NZF’s culture war grievance stoking is working.
Labour – needs to use their Facebook social media far better, needs to take using MMP strategically seriously.
Greens – They are offering vision, they are being rewarded.
Maori Party – The political theatre works for their younger voters, it alienates older ones. John Tamihere appearing at the Labour Party budget drinks this month is finally a genuine gesture of the two Parties trying to establish stronger bonds between the leadership.
National – Can’t believe their luck that they aren’t losing voters to Labour, but are being knifed by ACT and NZF.
ACT – Will be bitterly disappointed that NZF has the momentum.
NZF – Their anti-trans, anti-vaccine culture war antics have found fertile ground and with the support of the fringes can still drain out an extra point on election day. Bigotry in an All Tribe No Village political landscape works.
The NZ Left just don’t have a means to reach male voters and this is becoming a real issue now. The woke middle class identity politics of 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019 and 2020 drove Men into the arms of the reactionary Right and it also did that to many women as well.
This is the politics of resentment and rather than reach out to the right, Labour needs to talk to their own supporters first.
The Greens need to do the policy and the Maori Party must ensure Labour implement Green Policy.
That’s how a Labour/Green/MP Coalition would work.
The only way Labour, Greens and Maori Party win is if they work together and that must be to have a shared platform of policies they can tell voters will be implemented in 100 days.
One would have thought that the blitzkrieg of hard right policy from this Government would force the Left to work together because if they can’t manage that, these arseholes win again and cement their malice into place.
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I think there are whole heap of people who don’t have a clue. They listen rather look at actual numbers and facts not the utter bullshit that Luxon and Willis spew. On the flip side there are people who probably don’t like what we have but are not seeing credible opposition, which certainly makes sense.
Then again maybe it’s all bots like dickhead Seymour now claims with no evidence at all. What a tosser.
I think what you say is correct .The racists and the plain stupid cant see past the hate being put out by these people .Just take the worksafe law changes .They roll out the road cones hot line as the smoke screen to cover the real undermining they are doing .Having worked with worksafe after a serious incedent in the workplace ,I found they were in no way looking for blood .They came ,reviewed the situation with myself and others and together we came up with a plan to prevent that ever happening again .They then returned to see how we had progressed and went away happy with the result .
As the only trained H/S person on site I was amazed how slack management were toward H/S until the law was changed to make owners and CEOs accountable .Till then it was myself and other supervisors who were liable for the 30k fines if there was serious injury or death ,the company got off scott free .Once they discovered the new law could see them fined $250k each they soon jumped on the safety band wagon .Now the government wants to take that away and absolve the management of all responsability.More lives will be lost and the bot taking the calls about road cones will file those calls into the deleted file where they belong .
However no doubt we will see Brooke on the news next week picking up road cones that have been placed in a car park by ACT .
Seymour just doesn’t want to admit that those who oppose him are smarter than his supporters. While what does it profit a man and he gains the world is a spiritual principle it also has a literal application as ACT are in such a rush to destroy the environment in a pursuit of profit that they are unable to comprehend that there will be nothing left and the inevitable backlash (think French revolution) will destroy them.
“I think there are whole heap of people who don’t have a clue”
I’d argue the exact opposite – they just don’t have a compelling options right now. The average voter is a lot smarter than the beltway analysts believe.
The incompetence of Luxon, Willis, Seymour, Van Velden, Peters and Jones is something to behold…
All the statistics are going significantly in the wrong direction…
Unemployment is through the roof… job security is non existent…
Houses are ridiculously overpriced and unaffordable…food prices…power prices…water … all stupid prices…
The gouging by the private sector is pure unadulterated theft.
New Zealanders are fleeing the country in their droves
..record numbers
Unfortunately N.Z.ers would have to be one of the most politically ignorant people on the planet…they really are.
We have no nightly primetime ( 7pm – 8pm) hour long political panel discussions on TV as they doing in many other countries..
Just one- on -one interviews once a week with Jack Tame buried way on a Sunday morning .That’s it!
Many people i talk to don’t even know who Jack Tame is!
People bumble on in their pay packet to pay packet lives in a haze of malaise thinking that this is just the way things are.
Ignorance is bliss to many and the right love it because it simply buries their incompetence…too easy for them.
Break the ignorance and you’ll break the right.
Grant you have sized it up well.
People bumble on in their pay packet to pay packet lives in a haze of malaise thinking that this is just the way things are.
And bring their cellphones close to their faces, and read similar to their own thinking on the screen. Self-embracing propaganda. Don’t need facts or insights from Jack Tame. And I haven’t got TV, dislike facebook and proprietary comm channels; search out my info and news so miss large parts of trivia and pollie-dancing (like that one?) and can think better for keeping mostly, on the important or helpful features and news.
Another day, another poll. what did I hear a short time ago on RNZ?
All Labour need do is promise tax cuts, that’s a vote winner, albeit a scam that the gullible fall for.
Those gulls will swoop in and grab your chips, don’t think they’ll fall over, or underestimate them when they get up in the air.
RNZ Reid poll today has Labour ahead of Natzos 33-30%, and TPM on 5.5%-over threshold, with Lab, Green TPM on 63 seats able to form a Government.
Downside is Winston on 9%, upside-Act on 6%!
nice
Labour is in a bind. When Hipkins opens his mouth they go down in the polls. Go further left and lose the housewives in the suburbs. Go further right and alienate their radical base.
Broken record broken record broken record broken record broken record blah blah blah
You just put your foot in your mouth
Good one. Know-all but doesn’t know nothing. Housewives can be wooed still, most of them aren’t woke, so just give them some encouragement where it helps and they will be all for Labour. But Hipkiss and Co , not just him, there must be a new fish-n-chip cabal there, they have shown Mummy and Daddy what clever types they are and earning good money so what me worry, why change a good thing, don’t alter something that isn’t broke (for MPs), and Upton Sinclairs apposite quote recently up:
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As Upton Sinclair said, it’s difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on his not understanding it.
A man to follow: https://www.britannica.com/biography/Upton-Sinclair
I think your right gordon walker and wheel but the Reid poll says the opposite from this one it has the left on top. I also think the pay equity policy will bite the right in the bum. And so, the next election is going to have a gender, ethnic and wealth divide re-voting. I feel many of our Pakeha men are letting us down they need to do their homework, as they buy into all the nasty vile shit. ps. my mother is a Pakeha making me a half caste and I am proud of both.
One only has to look at dopey im rights comments to see I am right not him where his mate bob the 1st another dopey hua.
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