‘I do not care’: Christopher Luxon responds to concerns about prisoner voting ban
He doesn’t care about beneficiaries and children needing food at schoo so why would he care about prisoners?
Chris’s Christianity seems to only care about Kiwis with a net worth over $5m.
Let’s be very clear.
Luxon and Goldsmith join the morality of the lynch mob by banning prisoners from voting.
There’s no danger or emergency with prisoners voting, but National know they can attack any prisoner rights and get votes from their angry reactionary voting base because that’s all National have now, froth for their redneck voters.
This has all the morality of a lynch mob and you all know it.
Bashing prisoners for no other reason than the political glee is the kind of disgusting politics the Right play when their laws for donors start becoming too venal to gloss over.
It’s amazing how easy your anger gets manipulated by the Political Right.
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‘Dead Eyes, you knew there’d come a day, when we would have to say, Goodbye.’ Apologies to Robert John.
Ooh, aren’t they dead eyes too.
You’d think that anyone who’d reached the dizzy heights of prime minister would be more articulate than to simply declare, ‘I don’t care!’
At least it wasn’t, ‘What I can tell is blah, blah, blah, I am entitled and I don’t care’.
When there are so many important problems to solve this petty, under-worked, true bottom-feeder picks on prisoners.
Roll on the day when say goodbye and good riddance.
Joy “ When there are so many important problems to solve…” Precisely. This is yet another diversionary tactic, while flag-waving about being tough on crime, based on the assumption that the voters are as idiotic as this morally shabby pair are.
Luxon’s not caring could be typical psychopathic behaviour, but IMO he’s always been an intellectual embarrassment as well as a social clodhopper.
Luxon is a ” Claytons” Christian. A Christian that’s a Christian without really being a Christian.
https://youtu.be/3qf4yUMxnjw?si=z3D9R0jo0fAH5nc6
True, he’s not a Christian and he’s not a Prime Minister.
He’s a Clayton’s Everything.
All Amateurs and Pretenders.
Interesting.
You seem ok with criminal being punished.
ie remove their freedom to location, choice of food
But you are not OK to remove that other freedom
The ability to Vote?
If you cant do the time(loss of freedom) dont do the crime.
In reply will relay a comment I made on Duncan Grant’s substack:
Convicted felons are punished by removal of their normal rights and freedoms, and this could include removal of the right to vote.
However the measure of a civilized, progressive and rational society is exactly what rights and freedoms it chooses to withdraw from the felon. If the right to vote can be withdrawn then why not the right to practice religion? Because both are generally assumed to represent positive social values which should not be discouraged, particularly in the case of those who might otherwise be considered to be beyond the social pale.
Yet I would be very surprised if any political party wanted to withdraw the right of a prisoner to practice their faith. During my own time in prison a Bible was my constant companion, one book that I was permitted to have as of right in my cell night and day, and for that I was deeply grateful. As it happens the Bible meant more to me than the right to vote.
However there were other prisoners to whom the Bible and religion in general meant nothing, but to whom the vote was a means of showing and exercising their own sense of social responsibility. Why should they not be allowed to exercise their own moral obligation in such a way, if that is their perception of the matter?
Perhaps the politicians believe that prisoners are not fit people to vote because their conviction and sentence reveals a moral incapacity to vote responsibly? If that is the case, I suggest they are mistaken.
The inclination to sin is not found exclusively among the inmates of our prisons, and neither is the quality of loving kindness entirely absent among those held in prison. In fact, I could say that (quite remarkably) during my entire period of incarceration I did not suffer a single unkind act from a fellow prisoner.
Certainly the great majority of those in prison are there because they have acted badly, in some cases with the most grievous consequences for innocent people, but we should not fall victim to the fallacious notion that all the evils of society are locked away in its prisons and that outside of that prison system is a world of unadulterated virtue.
Therefore the suffrage should be truly universal. We should acknowledge it as a right given indiscriminately to the good and the bad, the wise and the foolish, the young and the old, the innocent and the cynical, the self-interested and the altruist. It is a right that, in being unlimited, describes our society as it really is, “warts and all”. That is the way it should always be.
National is not going to lose votes on this. Most US states have similar laws and have had them under democrats and republicans alike. A minority of US states remove the right to vote from felons completely and Luxon is not suggesting that. Most Kiwis will not lose a moment’s sleep about criminals having no votes. Rather they will be surprised these people could vote at all. Excellent win for National. Probably the only politically astute thing Luxon has ever managed. He’s dim otherwise.
sad little men with their sad little brains, having sad ideas, making sad little stains.
The “I don’t care” comment about no votes for prisoners from the PM is matched in his comment on TV tonight on the death of Bob Jones: “I wish them the very best”. Presumably it is his way of offering condolences to the family and friends. Just inappropriate or is he really losing it….
The “I don’t care” comment about no votes for prisoners from the PM is matched in his comment on TV tonight on the death of Bob Jones: “I wish them the very best”. Presumably it is his way of offering condolences to the family and friends. Just inappropriate or is he losing it….
Verity Verant. He can’t lose what he never had. The average third former wouldn’t be as crass as Luxon was to Bob Jones’s bereaved family. Jones was a giant of a man in a way minnow Luxon will never be, and his wishing them the very best is obscene or ludicrous, or both.
He is a socially awkward nerd, so has probably never had to offer condolences to anyone. And he is a dickhead.
Im sure that will save the ferries ,and add billions to GDP while the world is flooding here and burning on the other side of the globe .
I was thinking that it’ll bring electricity costs down too, going into a cold windy winter, and the cost of foodstuffs. Wow!
I have asked this question elsewhere.
Do Australian Prisoners whilst serving prison terms in Australian Prisons and are Registered and Acknowledged Australian citizens get the chance to vote whenever there is an election in any State of Australia and the Australian Wide General Election????!!!!
And if that is so does that mean a Registered Australian Citizen serving time in a prison Outside of Australia is Also ALLOWED to Vote in an Australian Election????!!
Does that mean Australian Citizen that is Brenton Tarrant who is serving time in a New Zealand prison at NZ Taxpayers expense has the right to vote in the Australian election whereas NZ prisoners in NZ do not have that right when it comes to NZ elections????!!!!
If the Lazy Luxon that is supposedly prime minister of New Zilland(as John Key called this question)cannot answer this question but as per usual either blames someone else or buggers off overseas then I can assume Luxon is Incapable of Answering Any of the Hard Questions. He is After all a Lazy politician who lacks the intellect to answer a proper question and resort to Waffledom because alot of words sounds impressive when in all reality he is LAZY.
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