Destiny Church weren’t ‘protesting’ they were persecuting & Mark Mitchel enabled these Zionist Christofascist leather thugs

1. Why this obsession with organising transvestites to read to kids in libraries – when and why did this become ‘a thing’?
   What are we trying to achieve here?

   • James Brown. Town councils do this sort of thing to show that they’re not anti-rainbow, even if no one ever said that they were. WCC is worse. Money spent eg painting and maintaining rainbow pedestrian crossings could be better spent elsewhere, but alphabet activists have a lot of clout, literally. Made Wellington City council’s also pondering broadcasting the Islamic call to prayer to show they support Muslims too. London is a hell of a lot worse, but we’re getting there.

     Margaret Mahy used to dress in zany clothes reading to kids, and the children liked it, just they like pantomimes, Halloween, and dressing’s-up generally, but the sex-gender dimension is a bit different.

   • Why this obsession with attacking people who are different from you?
     It would be a sad world if we were all like you.
     As for the Destiny church gang and it’s leader, what they did wasn’t charitable so should have that status stripped from them. Then again they are no church.

   • Do you look like a tranny out of drag as much as Brian does in his rather gay looking photo James ?? ,,, is someone spiking his food with estrogen or what?.

     What is with the cult of Brians church obsession in mimicking both gang attire,,, thats a fucking ‘patch’ on their backs ,,, and using threats of violence/stand-over tactics in numbers ,,, to get what they want.

     When did this become a thing among religions in Nz?

     What is ‘I talk to god’ Brian trying to achieve here?.

     …. apart from mimicking a gang that is.

     And while I wouldn’t have taken my kids, when they were little , to a drag library event,,, because it sounds like a drag (boring) ….

     Besides my kids saw heaps of men dressed and tarted up as glam women in their natural environment,,, which used to be the Wellington rugby 7’s ,,, the streets were crawling with them…..

     …. It would have been even better watching some retarded gang wannabe religion like Brians having it’s members cop a good kicking if they tried to shut that down … and I could have explained to my kids that’s what you do to creeps who try to force their religion down your throat.

     … And if they make Drags in library’s compulsory ,,, then bring back poof bashing,,,,

     relax until then james 😉 ,,,,got it?

   • Who knows what they are trying to achieve.
     However, I don’t think we’ll live the thank Brian Tamaki for his intimidating and violent intervention to save us from whatever it is.
     His thugs are just another gang of silly little boys pretending to be tough.
     I’d appreciate it if they’d stay in their own backyards and stop giving the west a bad name.

     Tamaki’s been getting a free pass from the right wing but his loyalties could change in an instant.
     We don’t expect firm leadership from this govt. In this case, from Mitchell. His history, allegedly, doesn’t make very clean reading. Crooks will always beat their way to the top of the pile because they have no scruples.

2. Is it not ironic that Tamaki often looks to be plastered in make up and has overly manicured eyebrows? Is the man in “ man up” actually short for manicure?

   They have to intimidate to distract from the fact that these guys talk of earthquakes being caused by a man lying with another man. Stone Age stuff

3. What is good for the goose is good for the gander. From BLM to Treaty Principles Hikois to Posie Parker counter protests – this is the reaction from those on the fringes of the right.

   Team left started this idiocy and needs to acknowledge it.

   • All started with that right wing nutjob farmer protesting Jacinda Ardern.
     The right started this idiocy and need to acknowledge it.
     But we always knew the right are unhinged, on the fringes or otherwise.

   • Frank the Tank the right can’t even own up to one of their own being a terrorist. How about we start there – or more importantly stop it from happening again.

     And by the way you read this site when have they not called out the dumb ass cultural wars and virtue signalling bullshit – from the so called social left?

     Frank the Tank sad truth is you’re more like the social left than you think, more into point scoring than actually making people lives better.

     • Frank the Wank some else said

4. Chippy couldn’t even say what a woman is, so who knows what he thinks a “real man” is.

   • Some advice observer, no one from Destiny Church is for a start.

     • I don’t really care what the nutjobs in Destiny Church are (or are not).

       Chippy on the other hand could be our next PM, so I tend to care about what he thinks a little more. And it’s pretty pathetic for him to talk about what a “real man” is when he didn’t have the backbone to define what he thinks a “woman” is.

       But thanks for the advice.

       • No worries, pleased Chippy took a stance, you need advice clearly.

5. What’s your problem James.
   How is this different to psuedo christians organizing kids to be preached at and taken to violent protests against people expressing their views in a peaceful way.

6. Because we oppress people we further oppress them by forcing them to identify themselves …. we push them into a corner to spend their whole life identifying themselves by …. which is a sad waste of life ….. limiting yourself. – Norm McDonald

   Enjoy the jokes. Watch to the end.

   https://youtu.be/8FcOf0vHDvA?feature=shared

7. Why this obsession have you ever been to a pantomime always the dames in drag, how long has that been going ,on how old and popular are pantomimes. Shakespeare plays had woman’s parts played by men let me think how old and popular is Shakespeare . There is nothing new under the sun

8. Regarding the nuance free meme pic Club v Gang saying Know The Difference.

   So what is the difference?

   One is a criminal gang dealing meth and causing further crime in the community, doing drive by shootings and violence to random strangers, other gangs and their own families.

   The other is not a club but a church (great or not) that takes those gang members and other troubled men and attempts to create a better life for them and their family and for the most part a crime free citizen for the society.

9. Another bunch of thugs hiding behind god .They will continue to be allowed to be continue because it is what Luxon and Mitchell believe in .Like Seymour they are providing cover while behind the scenes we are being pillaged by the COC for the rich pricks to line their pockets further .

10. Appealing, appalling, what’s a couple of letters between friends? I will presume that you meant appalling although maybe you have a dark side.

11. I don’t see what the police could do until Tamaki and co actually did something criminal, and when they did, the cops were onto them. We still have freedom of speech, and that includes the Bish.

    • I agree Pip. Some people complain about police inaction but they have to work within the law.Talk is cheap and Tamaki does at lot of it but free speech has to be protected.They seem to be moving against him now he is actually assaulted someone

    • Yes, they need the person who was assaulted to come forward and lay a complaint, then maybe the bish will get the bash, like his followers dished out.

      • At least we can agree that the whole Destiny Church organization is an evil group of unfortunate followers taken in by Tamaki.
        One of the attackers was identified as a radio personality. He should be dismissed.

        • Yes Trevor, agreed.

12. I do not understand what the issue is here.

    We have had numerous proposed events cancelled, or access to venues being denied due to “safety reasons”.

    Now it’s a problem. This is on the organisers, they should have realised that there may be protests or demonstrations against the event, so the people who run the venue should have denied access due to “safety concerns”.

    • TB. The library could have featured Mother Goose, or Little Bo Beep, or in this cost of living crisis, Old Mother Hubbard, children’s traditional nursery rhyme figures, if they’re that desperate to show that they’re woke and have a bloke dressed up like a female. But oh no, librarians are a pretty radical sort of bunch and they can enjoy sanctimonious shit stirring instead of using basic commonsense. Idiots.

      • You mean the one with the wolf that kills an old lady and wears a suit made of her skin to lure her granddaughter to her house and kill her?

13. People are overlooking the important thing here. Destiny is a church, Gangs are collections of individuals with a common interest.
    Now some smartarse, university educated, know it all wanker or wankess will say ‘but a church is a collection of people with a common interest, so what is the difference?’
    The difference is GOD!( or for dyslexics DOG!)! Once the old bearded feller, upstairs in a nightie, enters all bets are off. Once Zelda’s mate is onside you can do anything you bloody well like and more!
    Also once big G is your boss you can impose all your shit on other people whether they bloody well like it not.
    Now as our mate James says; ‘Why this obsession with organising transvestites to read to kids in libraries –
    when and why did this become ‘a thing’? What are we trying to achieve here? ‘
    Well James I’m buggered if I know either but there is an important principle involved.
    If people wish their children to be read to by transvestites they are free to take them there.
    If people DO NOT wish their children to be read to by transvestites they do not have to take them there.
    ( Actually I was once forced to listen to transvestites as part of my employment – basically it is all ‘ I got my cock cut off and now I am a girl. Hooray for me!’ and nothing else for nearly an hour. I had a hell of a job staying awake but it did not kill me and I learned something – transgender people are as boring as fuck and I know to avoid them).
    So DEMOCRACY and all that guff. The right of all to freely spout garbage( but not the right to force other people to listen to it, you are allowed to ignore it, reply to it, mock it, criticise it).

    Now this is where GOD is important because once Zelda’s buddy is on the team you have a perfect right to replace DEMOCRACY with THEOCRACY where the pope is infallible and so is Bishop Tamaki.
    This is a great Monopoly card because you can kill and oppress lots of people, tell lies, steal stuff – just about all the ‘Land Sharks’ in New Zealand’s colonial history were devout Christians who were civilising Maori by removing the ‘burden’ of their land.
    Strange thing about GOD (or DOG) though.
    He is not what you could call a hands on boss. Very difficult to even get a glimpse of him.
    Instructions not very precise and often very contradictory.
    Mind you this can be advantageous as it means wide interpretations of what is meant so when Brian Tamaki reads ” love your neighbour’ and ” do unto others as you have them do to you, ‘ he can make it:
    BASH THE FUCK OUTA GAYS, SUPPORTERS OF PALESTINE, ANY BASTARD THAT I DO NOT LIKE.
    Of course this puts fellers like Luxon in a difficult position because like Bishop Brian he is right up GOD’ s tradesmen’s entrance – as are various others in National and ACT – so it is difficult for them to treat a CHURCH as a GANG.
    (By the way is a female wanker a wankess or a wanktrice, is Bishop Brian’s missus a bishopess?)
    Cheerio for now
    Razorbotham

    • Best analysis goes to Mr Razorbotham.

14. Letter in The Herald.
    As a gay man living in Auckland, I’m all too familiar with Brian Tamaki’s antics and the Destiny Church. At first, he was just another charlatan blaming LGBTQ+ people for natural disasters, peddling the same old bigotry under the guise of faith. We laughed it off, as we’ve done many times before – another day, another hater.
    But after 24 hours of being bombarded with coverage of the “church’s” latest outburst, one thing is clear: they are no longer just an embarrassment; they are a clear and present danger – not just to the rainbow community, but to all of us.
    In recent years, I have seen Destiny Church embrace imported extremism, conspiracy theories and far-right politics, weaponising these to rile up their followers and unleash them on the public. To what end? Gay people aren’t going anywhere. Drag Queen Story Hour isn’t stopping anytime soon. Trans people will continue to exist.
    Yet Tamaki has built his empire on branding us as criminals, predators and threats to the community – but this weekend, the only real threat to public safety was him and his blind followers. For too long, this man has been allowed to push his agenda under flimsy political movements (Freedoms NZ), while masquerading as a man of God.
    His influence is no longer just ideological – it has escalated into direct political and physical aggression against a community that is just trying to survive.
    A pride parade met with an angry mob, yet only one side is seen as a danger to society? And it’s not the one hurling threats and inciting violence? Or storming public libraries.
    It’s time for the public and the Government to stop enabling this fraud and hit him where it hurts.
    For the uninitiated: Destiny Church preaches the Prosperity Gospel, a grift born out of American capitalism and vague religious doctrine, designed to enrich its leaders while exploiting the vulnerable, blaming them for their own poverty and suffering. It’s been a scam since the early 1900s, pushed by bad actors like Oral Roberts in the ′50s, and yet somehow, in 2025, it’s still allowed to thrive. What exactly is charitable about that?
    How is this still happening? And yet we’re the problem? It hurts, man.
    Daniel Gada, Auckland Central.

15. Another: People v thuggery
    I applaud Mayor Wayne Brown for his condemnation of Destiny Church’s cowardly protest towards the Rainbow Community.
    The very name “Man Up” is denigrating to men. Real men are not threatened by diversity and the queer community. Bigotry and the like are always caused by fear and insecurity.
    Brian Tamaki’s pride in his followers’ bullying and thuggery is concerning, to say the least. To label the LGBTQ+ community as pornographic and perverted is wrong on so many levels.
    May MPS and the local council continue to stand up against this kind of disturbing behaviour.
    Susan Wilson, Waiheke Island.

16. Yes all of it originates out of the 360 religious influenced conservative republican political action pacs in the usa originally started under the republican evangelical religions aligned TEA party that opposed gay rights in the 1980 era. They now control the republicans which are now controlled by the Multi million and billionaires. All of it is intended to cause division while they rape the general population interests dry. As a gay man I have watched this grow for the last 50 years I am 74 now. Its sole purpose is to divide and conquer and create division. Religion is the means they are using to do it. Trumps America has fallen for its hook line and sinker because most of his followers have a mental educated age of a 10 to 13 year old at most according to an OECD survey / research project. It would sure be interesting to see what the mental educated age is of tamaki’s followers is.

17. s87 of the Crimes Act?

18. I didn’t see what happened.
    But there is a zero percent chance the media organization partly responsible for inciting the Posie Parker violence, which employed Shaneel Lal, is giving balanced coverage here.
    Let’s see what the police decided before passing judgement.
    Are Hakas bad again now after the hikoi and TJ perenara were so liberating for the liberal media?

    I note a distinct lack of footage of 70 year old women being punched in the face by Destiny church just saying

    • The individual who, in the past, used to go on about whataboutisms. You didn’t see what happened? Did Martyn say anything about a haka?

    • Destiny Church thugs beat their LGBTQ and kick them out when they come out. And besides, civil rights is something worth fighting for? In guessing you think it’s ok to beat up trans people.

19. Great comments!

20. Why oh why does Destiny have to use black leather gang imagery to attract their followers?

21. At least no elderly ladies were punched….

22. Mark Mitchell made his fortune making sure that zionist mercenaries in Iraq were supplied with weapons to molest and kill little Iraqi girls.

    Of course he supports his fellow zionist puppets like Tamaki back here. He should be tried and ******ed for his open support for the US military.

23. This has become a 9/11 moment where the state has moved to circumscribe all protest . The response of the state to what amounts to terrorist behaviour has so far been flaccid. The senior police officer interviewed on RNZ couldn’t have sounded more bored if he tried.

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