Does anyone believe National will pay those abused in State Care?

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Politicians delivered the right words after harrowing report on abuse in care. Delivering the right actions won’t be so easy – Audrey Young

Prime Minister Christopher Luxon and Opposition leader Chris Hipkins both rose to the occasion and Hipkins pledged a bipartisan approach. Children’s Minister Karen Chhour spoke with the empathy and anguish only a victim herself could have mustered.

But as colleague Derek Cheng sets out in his analysis, acceptance of the report’s findings press hard up against some of the Government’s agenda – be it boot camps, repealing section 7AA of the Oranga Tamariki Act, or removing rights of gang members.

Come on!

National, ACT and NZF all play the ‘get tough on crime’ bullshit used to justify abusing kids in State Care, do you honestly think these politicians who give $2.9b to rich land lords, who borrowed $14b for their tax cuts we can’t afford and who hands sweet heart deals to the Tobacco Industry, Real Estate Pimps and their donor class give two shits about the 200 000 kids abused in State care under ‘get-tough-on-crime’ polices they have always promoted?

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This is a hard right racist climate denying beneficiary bashing Government implementing an anti-Māori, anti-Treaty, anti-worker, anti-renter and anti-environment agenda, why would they cough up billions in reparations?

This Government is as spiteful as the people who voted of rat, redneck cracker settlers despise these kids in the first place, they were the same screaming for vengeance during the ram raids and are implementing counter productive draconian social policy that inspires the type of abuse that sees 200 000 kids hurt.

Most of the right wing rednecks who voted in this racist Government believe kids need the bash, why would they now pay for the counter productive ramifications of their malice?

We should all be ashamed at what has been revealed in this report, we tortured children, we sexually abused them and then we caused them terrible physical harm in a way that flies in the face of the get tough on crime narrative that the NZ Right get politically excited by.

The Rights denial of their own bloodlust and sense of vengeance is the real problem here.

National promised cancer patients 14 drugs and only ended up funding half of them at twice the predicted cost! National have no values other than the interests of their donor class.

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  1. When Willis uses the words “it’s complicated” you know immediately there will be no payout.

    • National are Squeaky Clean Of course “ it’s complicated,” but most things are. They need to stop pussyfooting around and hire an actuary to do the job for them. Forget Luxon, hopefully he’ll soon be less than a footnote in history.

    • National are Squeaky Clean Of course “ it’s complicated,” but most things are. They need to stop pussyfooting around and hire an actuary to do the job for them. Forget Luxon, hopefully he’ll soon be less than a footnote in history.

      • Yes, Snow White she is saying its complicated cause she will have to get rid of more public servants and continue with her wrecking ball on our health and education systems. Looking at her body language she is thinking about the money (where will it come from) and how many people will have to lose their jobs to pay for the states fuck ups. Willis will have to tell more porkies to justify her actions, but she is very good at that.

        • covid is p There are persons in the upper echelons of the Nats who don’t think that Willis should be Min of Finance; Luxon as PM is a vacuous fool,IMO. He’s the twerp who thinks himself cool having photo ops in pj’s and clearly needs better advisors.

  2. Luxon will hire someone with oversized boots to kick this as far down the road as is posable .He needs to stop all anti Maori and treaty bullshit right now .He needs to get Seymour in and bend him over the desk and stick his boot up his racist arse .
    Already Willis is going pale as she stares down the trillion dollar pay out as well as the land claim settelments that are coming .
    The NZ borrowing will easily be 100% of GDP BY 2050 .
    How are the red necks going to sweep this under the carpet .

  3. Jacindas legacy is growing by the day .She saved 20k lives in the pandemic, but more importantly she took on the establishment ordered this enquiry and the red necks can no longer deny that NZ was by far the worst colony in the world .
    Who are the government going to tax to cover the cost of this work ? Lets start with those pesky churches that have had tax free status for ever while stealing land and building massive wealth .Time to take those assets and return any stolen land to the rightful owners and sell the remaining assets to cover rehab of their victims .Then start on the mega wealthy that live on Paratai drive on stolen land .

  4. For a start, they should consider legal action against the CE of Presbyterian Support Otago, Gillian Bremner, who ordered the destruction of all records belonging to young people who had stayed in its residential homes, and the President of the Law Society, if he sanctioned it. This is beyond evil, IMO, and is deeply shocking. If it is not criminal, it should be, and if our morally flabby politicians will not address it, hopefully an individual or group with the resources to do so, will take civil action.

    New Zealand’s track record with children is terrible, unfathomable, and indefensible. Our deep underbelly of violence would justify the whole country being cleared out and tossed into the Pacific
    Ocean, but the already-contaminated seas deserve better.

        • Abuse is outrageous and totally indefensible. However there needs to be an honest conversation about who should pay. The perpetrators are mostly long gone and Rome cannot be forced to pay a cent. It will be local people many of whom were not even born who will be chipping in.

  5. I suspect that the parasite class will get involved somehow & clip the ticket to enable themself a comfortable income. There needs to be a payout set through parliament with a fixed portion then a set formula for any other adjustments that need to be made to remove the need for the parasite class. There is a risk that some experiences might not be compensated enough but a quick payout should mitigate some of that harm. I suspect that those affected would feel a lot better seeing their abusers subject to justice than grasping for every dollar anyway.

  6. Given that under this CoC government, the aim of new policies is to still be punitive to anyone with need of social care , Luxie’s tears are crocodile tears.

    Yesterday, whilst falsely weeping for victims , furtively NATZSI’ s even lowered the child poverty reduction targets setting another 17000 kids in poverty.
    With the record decline in services and primary insustries indices , the flow on in unemployment continuing to rise means more hardship is on the way.
    The response, ‘ smack ’em around some more ‘ from Upston.
    ‘Kick ’em out of homes ‘ Bish…
    Psychologically bash them in boot camp Chhour..

    Isn’t these measures alone more child abuse ?

    Over a century later to be in need of CARE in NZ is still treated by Govt as being criminal .

    Fat chance survivors, with your long term impacts , NATZIs will punish you one way or another… and then try find the help agencies they’ve decimated , because you’re too old for 2 phone calls with King.

    • OToole If Chris Luxon cried chances are he’d remembered his bible saying, “ By their deeds ye shall know them”, and Jesus saying, “ What you do to the least of my children you do to me”, and realised that he’ll have to pay up. Even so his chances of getting into heaven are presently on a par with Elvis being sighted alive and well in Te Puke.

  7. They probably will, but WINZ will claw back a big chunk of it.

    New Zealand’s wealth tax in action.

  8. There will be way more people that have been abused as adults to.I have family member who was a mental health sufferer who was often given massive doses of sedation because she asked about the side effects of the medication she was on .Then there are all the old people in the age care farms call rest homes who suffer the same fate .
    The new agency that is to be set up to monitor care needs to cover from birth to death and needs to include elder abuse by family .

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