Tough day to be a right wing reactionary ‘get tough on crime’ fuckwit this week…
State care has key role in creating violent gang members – submission
An overwhelming number of New Zealand’s gang members endured violent and often sexual abuse as youths in state welfare institutions, according to a submission recently presented to the Royal Commission of Inquiry into Abuse in Care. With the Commission’s final report made public today, Aaron Smale reports on the glaring link between gang membership and state care.
We are a basic, simple, nasty people.
We love to bash prisoners, it’s not enough that they are imprisoned, many, many, many right wing voters truly get off on the thought that the prisoner suffers as well.
This is who we is. This is what we have become.
The vast, vast, vast number of right wingers have no idea that abuse in State care drives gang numbers, drives imprisonment and drives suicide and trauma.
But fuck that eh Kiwi?
Build me a fucking MegaPrison right?
Where’s ma beer?
This year Prime Minister Chris Luxon will deliver an official apology to all those abused in State care. He will make this apology after restarting military boot camps that research shows don’t work and only add to more state abuse.
Historically 250 000 kiwis were abused by the State and Church, the staff filming and organising last years fight clubs in the Oranga Tamariki youth prison had 2 weeks training – underfunded public services are still abusing Kiwis today!
The NZDF didn’t want to run these boot camps and Minister Karen Chhour didn’t work with any Māori organizations to help design them – DESPITE 9 of the boys in the first 10 being Māori.
Critics claim this is nothing more than a $5million virtue signal – wouldn’t that $5m be better spent elsewhere?
Not according to right wing Kiwis, they want more suffering, more pain and more Mega Prisons!
Findings of the Royal Commission on Abuse in State care suggest that 80-90 percent of gang members were victims of abuse. If we don’t want more organised crime, perhaps the State should stop manufacturing gang members.
We are a basic low imagination horizon people fixated on cow udders, Rugby and hiding domestic violence.
Boot camps wont fucking fix this you muppets! You have had your fear of crime manipulated by National, ACT and NZF and it has turned you all into something very fucking ugly.
This is on you NZ.
Your bigotry and your ignorance you book burning clowns.
We are one giant feelings loop of counterproductive draconian policy.
All so very very true…
Luxon is a coward…a gutless wonder, in Kiwi speak.
He is clearly struggling with the job!!
His hubris mask is slipping as he discovers that being Prime Minister is way way way more complex than overseeing a government backed monopoly.
His temper outbursts when challenged on the dumb stuff that they are trying to roll out, and his patsy ..” well i simply don’t agree” responses to searching questions, without providing proven evidence to the contrary, are a strong indication
that he is not only struggling with the job, but can’t think on his feet, is as shallow as a puddle and poorly read….a bad combination!
Reducing scrutiny by the media is going to end badly for him.
It’s like watching a trainwreck about to happen in slow motion.
And what should be really worrying for New Zealanders is that he hasn’t even been tested yet!
Excellent point Grant. Not tested except dealing with fallout from his own and his party’s stupidity.
His weak responses, ‘Well, I simply don’t agree.’ means nothing. He has several favourites. Filler statements that make no difference to anything. We know he doesn’t agree already because we’ve just questioned his stance.
In speaking about restitution to victims of state abuse he said money wasn’t the issue. Does that mean he intends to make good on helping those people despite what it may cost, or does that mean he’s not talking about money to victims but there’ll be lots of kind words, thoughts and prayers and all the other warm fluffy comments that get bandied about.
Remember Key’s empty, ‘Whatever it takes, Christchurch!’
Meanwhile Luxon aims to set up the state abuse victims of the future and as the caption to the picture says, he doesn’t care.
On the day Dr Reti announced that an apology would be made by the govt, addressing abuse in care, he also revealed that the health board would be replaced by a commissioner to make savings in the Health sector. Even though the govt insisted there was plenty on money for the health sector, which sounds almost two track, saying one thing but doing another.
Maybe the need to avoid costly legal action, was one of the historical reasons for the widespread covering up of abuse in the first place. That it was just easier to ignore it. And that these same circumstances that allowed abuse to flourish, are still ongoing to this day, and the govts actions or lack of, have helped perpetuate this situation.
There would be people in positions of authority right now, dealing with cases of suspected abuse right now, who have to decide whether to ignore it, or do something. They will be watching what moves the govt makes. They may be nervous. The govts actions should make sure their nervousness is justified.
The abuse in care inquiry has not taken action against any of the officials who previously ignored abuse.
In many of the cases of abuse in religious settings, abusers were simply moved to a new location by high minded church decision makers, where the same behavior could continue.
This is a chance for the supposedly tough on crime coalition govt, to prove their credentials. Time to do something to make a difference, and say enough is enough. When officials don’t take action on abuse they are notified of, it gives the worst outcomes, for the victim and even for the accused. For if you see this from the point of view of the accused, imagine trying to defend yourself in court against accusations that are decades old, is far from easy. But it could all be avoided, if the officials who should be investigating any abuse notified to them as part of their job, simply did their job. Tough on crime while being soft on abusers doesn’t add up. Tough on crime doesn’t just mean passing new laws on gangs, although that is part of it. If you want to be effective in the tough on crime race, you have to start at the start, which is to address abuse in the first place, historic, present, and future. Many gang members were themselves victims of abuse, which is no excuse, but it does give some insight. Insight, that passing gang laws and sending kids to boot camps, maybe putting too much emphasis on the wrong end of the stick, for political expediency.
Whatever the nature of systems to be set up by this govt to address these issues, it cannot be more of the same. The govt cannot act like the church and simply transfer officials elsewhere in the public service, who want to ignore abuse accusations. Whatever this law and order govt comes up with, it has to have teeth, and be run by serious people, and not end up as a bureaucratic culdesac that the previous govt did, when they folded the children’s Commission into the ERO, and the elder health Commission into the HDC. It must be independent, and effective, and be seen to be effective. So those in authority are under no illusion that when they become aware of abuse, that they need to take the appropriate steps. And if they have reservations, then they should do the right thing now and consider their positions.
The Royal Commission into Abuse in Care recommended establishing a Ministry for Care and a national monitoring agency to ensure abuse did not continue. Why not amalgamate the monitoring agency with the Childrens Commission and Elder Health Commission, so resources are less thinly spread, and fewer will fall through the cracks.
And why on earth would there be unmarked graves on any governement land, as if NZ was Bosnia ir Uganda. Is life that cheap here?
Quite a few at Tokanui mental hospital in the waikato
The government reminds me of Jack Nicholson who said his mother never got the irony when she called him a sonofabitch.
I hope every redneck anti Maori person hangs their head in shame .
Billions of dollars will never give those people closure as no amount of money will erase their memories of what happened to them .Luxon needs to put a stop to all anti maori bleating from himself and his coalition partners .Also he needs to go to all the prisons and appologise to the affected that are inmates there .
My daughter works in corrections and actually bothers to talk to each inmate she comes into contact with .75% OF THOSE THAT OPEN UP TO HER HAVE BEEN ABUSED AS A KID AND MOST OF THOSE WERE SEXUALLY ABUSED .
She says there is very little effort put into rehabilitating any prisoners .They are sent on courses which only deal with the offence not the cause of why or rehabilitating them for when they leave prison .
One inmate recounted how when he was released he was dumped it Tauranga with no where to go no job and no money in shitty weather .He was arrested for sheltering for the night on private property and sent back to jail .
So as we can see there is a major amount of work to be done as we are the worst country in the world for abuse in care .
Read and weep you bunch or rednecks .
Thanks to JACINDA having the cuts to take on the establishment ,we now have the reality that we are the worst colony in the world .
If Luxon had an ounce of her strength he would ask her to return and take control of the next stage of this process .He does not have what it will take to move forward as we can see that no action will be taken till the end of next year and he calls that moving with urgency .
He says money is no object and will spend as much as is needed .
No doubt Willis will have something to say about that as she scraped a future proofing ferry purchase and is now in the process of closing down health services to the bare minimum.
It’s all crocodile tears from this government after all the ruling classes prevail. Parliament went from the report straight to the abolishment of Maori wards at the behest of Seymour who has been very quiet in all this wringing of hands by this government. Chhor is weak and has almost admitted she can’t prevent it happening in these boot camps. Upston has been busy quietly encouraging more children into poverty the assimilation of the poor,weak and Maori is happening as we speak . Our health services are under the most threat in decades this mostly affects the poor . So here we have full on abuse going on in plain sight and if you think this government are sorry we’ll think again.
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