Golriz Ghahraman convicted of shoplifting and ordered to pay fine and court costs
Former Green MP Golriz Ghahraman has failed to escape a conviction after she admitted shoplifting $8367 worth of goods from three different clothing stores.
Judge June Jelas declined Ghahraman’s request for a discharge without conviction and ordered her to pay a fine of $1600 and court costs of $260.
Ghahraman was charged in January following a shoplifting investigationwhich found she had stolen clothing from three shops. She pleaded guilty to all charges in March.
It’s over. She’s been punished.
Kicking Golriz while she’s down has no honour in it, no mana, it’s just a sick cultural sadism played out by people whose stark loneliness finds solace in ritualistic public humiliation.
There were many times I disagreed with Golriz, but I also acknowledge she is an amazing talent and the malice spat at her should collectively embarrass and disgust us.
Being a young, smart, articulate, refugee women in NZ is not easy and the tsunami of rage she provokes is Israeli level disproportionate.
I hope she finds healing out of the public stare and finds the strength in that healing to re-engage into the public sphere once again.
The true test of character is not how many times we get knocked down, it’s how many times we get up.
Kia kaha Golriz.
Thank you for your contribution.
Heal and find your new course for you have much more to contribute.
Kia kaha.
As for the Trolls, Jesus wept you people really do need a cup of tea and a lie down. She fucked up, she’s been punished, you’ve had your pound of flesh, now go find someone else to tear apart, your gleeful schadenfreude is hyena level feral and twice as obnoxious. You make the rest of us gag at your intellectual ugliness and base cruelty.
Agreed!
Let’s move on to the next Green Party criminal: When are they fronting up with the Darleen Tana investigation?
What about all your nat party criminals who get away with their bullshit.
You are two faced Andrew.
@Andrew….remember Mike Sabin?
Lovely attempt at whataboutism! LOL
Just putting this into perspective!
@ Andrew… remember Sam Uffindell
I am sure he does but you obviously need to keep kicking when he has paid for his act of youthful stupidity.
I am sure you are blind to the fact that you are doing to him exactly what M is saying about those kicking G G
And yet here you are Trevor happy to support Andrew making attacks on others, rather hypocritical and blind of you Trevor.
Isn’t there someone high up in Act with name suppression,isn’t there someone in national with dodgy donations. I wonder what you will say when these fine upstanding white men have their day in court
Very good comment MB. Golriz is the perfect target, ticks all the boxes that they hate most.
The obsession the Right has with her and any other woman who doesn’t do as she’s told, is frightening.
What sort of lives do their own wives/partners, daughters, mothers and female employees live?
I don’t agree with your advice to trolls to ‘go and find someone else to tear apart!’
That’s the last thing they should do. They need to ask themselves seriously, if mature, sensible people should behave as they do? Have they learned nothing in their lives except to find a victim and bully them?
Are they normal???
Your recent assertion that hatred of Jacinda amounts to a mental illness is also spot on.
They reveal their primitive and uneducated selves.
We got a funny in the emails recently.
‘The internet may not have allowed the deaf to hear, but it’s sure allowed the dumb to speak.’
Some self-reflection is long overdue.
I know nobody kicking Golriz. Who reads trolls apart from other trolls? If it’s the MSM, she’s gone, and they’ll move on to another trivial pursuit pretty pronto.
agreed! her shoplifting is old news!
Yep lets just allow the hate to continue .This country is full of right wing ferral fuckers that no one pulls into line .Clearly police and others know full well who these scum are and do nothing .I myself have reported on line arseholes to police and not one has been charged .I myself was threatened with violence on more than one occasion by a couple of rabbit hole dwellers who wanted to rape and murder the former PM and this young lady as well .Then they started on the children wanting to rape Neve for christ sake she was 3 at the time .Its way past time that these shit heads were sorted by the law .But with the current red necks that are in government it will be seen as an ok thing to do espeacialy by winston and co who are proped up by these river of filth fuckers .
I think the sentence was fair.
And yes, she messed up and has paid the price and now we need to let her move on with her life. Besides, I don’t think I can exactly claim to have lived a perfect life.
I wish her the best
Well said. Unfortunately we are developing a culture of punishment being the ultimate tool and using it to deal with those of us that have issues be they mental, physical, genetic or from being generally disadvantaged in society.
Rehabilitation and compassion is not high on our list.
We’re also pretty tribal in wanting to put the boot into people from the other side of the political spectrum.
I don’t agree with all of GGs politics but that’s just politics. She is also a person and as such I have empathy for her the same as I do for anyone regardless of their political alignment.
Plus I am no expert on mental health, but people shop lifting as something completely out of character due to mental health issues is not exactly unknown
Agree with Martyn’s sentiments. Any of us can have a meltdown–even politicians–Todd Mueller cracked and is now seen as some sort of model for admitting mental issues.
Golriz lifting some overpriced dresses pales in comparison to Jenny Shipleys offending as a director–how many $mill was that again the former Natzo PM has to pay back…oh yes, $6.6 mill at last count. Ms Ghahraman of course is not part of the NZ ruling class, and is youngish, brown, female and a migrant, hence the filthy troll and misogynist attacks on her, while Mrs Shipley just coasts on through–bad luck Jen, eh what old girl.
I thought the sentence was fair as a discharge without conviction would have reinforced the view by many that we have different justice depending on our wealth, influence, etc. It is a sad situation that reinforces the fact that various nameless trolls can cause lots of misery for people yet escape the scrutiny they deserve. While her values are a bit different from mine I wish her all the best & hope that she can continue to contribute to making NZ a better place.
Fair enough. You can see in the UK Post Office enquiry the ingrained attitude over there, that the those in positions of high power never get arrested, but humble (and innocent) postmasters are; it will be interesting to see if that changes when Paula et al. are charged.
Can you imagine the outcry if GG was let off? Maybe over here there is indeed a blindfold on Justicia.
The judge made a good call and did not bend to the demand to make her an example .
I did not agree with much she said but she is to be admired for saying it.
For those out there that down play the effect of mental illness you need to open your eyes and ears as someone close to you may be suffering in silence due to your closed mind.
I hope she is allowed to mend and then bring her life experience back to help others. We need more Ghahramans and less haters.
She’ll be right all her go girl boss babe feminist friends will tell her how amazing she is.
Depends on your definition of being ok. She has MS, which everyone seems to be forgetting. Thats a huge burden.
I am not a fan, but it’s a sad story. Clearly she lost the plot. Not an excuse at all, but would she have lost the plot if she didn’t have feral c*nts ( sorry but that’s what you are if you have to threaten to kill someone you don’t agree with) in her face.
I’m not sure about the ferals and the effect they had. Not saying that they didn’t but just that I suspect she had many things going on in her life that led to this, not least of which living with MS as you say.
It is a sad story. I not really a fan either but anyone that wants to put the boot in is a prick that needs to go get a life. She is a person and I’ve seen people on this blog proclaim their desire to do things 100x worse then GG ever did (or will do).
I’m not particularly a fan of Marama Davidson either but she also has my best wishes. Todd Muller was a – something – but he had real issues and had my sympathy.
Our politicians are also people and we as a nation would do well to remember that at times. Considering some of the shit head politicians in other parts of the world, we are pretty damned lucky as a rule.
MS or ME? If Multiple Sclerosis how does that go, can you keep on working till you really can’t?
MS symptoms can be managed, and treatments have certainly improved. Access to the most effective has been problematic due to criteria that PHARMAC had in place. In other words your symptoms had to be quite pronounced to qualify. Your immune system attacking your brain and spinal cord is not something I would wish on anyone.
You are right the MS has not been mentioned. That alone would make you depressed and act out of character.
I’m just pleased for her sake that two of the most respected new Zealanders were there to tautoko her…guy Williams and dharleen Tana.
There were a number of important legal points as to why she was denied a discharge without conviction.
The main one was that she was not a young up and coming male sportsman who might not be able to travel the world freely with a conviction.
She was the wrong kind of lawyer, not being an old white partner of a successful firm.
Also she committed the wrong kind of crime
Property must be protected at all costs. She would have been better off to give her female partner/spouse a good hiding.
Amen Martyn. At least she has had a life so far unlike the balding cardy wearing dandruff shedding trolls who’s only achievement is to tug while stroking the send key.
She deserves a second chance in politics with… TOP
Do people seriously go to prison for stealing $8000 worth of anything. If they do shows what dumb dumb society we have.
Honest, theft in knowing socialist care cultures is Liberate, not her thought prosess. According got my last picture shot, Im! off to where, England.
I agree. But also remember. Todays news is tomorrows Fish & Chip paper.
It will all be forgotten by 98.76% of people in a couple of weeks, if not days.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/what-you-need-to-know/520731/what-is-loss-reactive-shoplifting-cited-in-golriz-ghahraman-s-court-case
Reading about the mental effects of loss in this item….
…The term ‘loss-reactive’ has been around for a very long time…
“It’s the reaction to an experience of loss, and that loss can be in the past, it can be some time ago, even years and years ago.
‘Loss-reactive shoplifting’ is not a term by itself, but the idea of that loss-reactive behaviour has to do with a traumatic type of loss like the loss of a person, rather than a loss of control, leading to behaviours that are unusual.”
In Ghahraman’s case, Cresswell argued this unusual behaviour was shoplifting.
I have been feeling stress that is growing year by year, over the loos of NZ and the welfare, caring society that offered a decent future if one got education and a job and was keen. So have many people. Proper, thorough understanding of human behaviour would explain a lot of our crime and craziness.
I am surprised that our various governments have not understood this and how to improve the country’s mental health and lessen the imprisonment rate, and also the baby-snatching rate adopted by Oranga Tamariki. So get into the 21st century and imbibe some modern understanding and psychology- start doing so from the time that a baby first drinks its mother’s milk.
And help the parents with advice and extra benefits available as they start to get skills in life management and learn how to have better morals than politicians and their civilian army of prudes and punishers.
Sad that there are so many knockers out there. Golriz’s offending was I feel a type of cry for help, given the stress’s she was under. I hope she can now heal and recover .I wish her well. Aroha Golriz.
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