National – 38%
Labour – 28%
Greens – 12%
ACT – 8%
NZ First – 6%
Māori Party – 4%
Labour’s woeful performance in the polls despite National pushing 13000 kids into poverty, 8000 tobacco deaths and $2300 less for the disabled each year just to fund tax cuts to their mates should concern the Labour Party hierarchy.
Labour either reset the agenda by holding a ‘Rebuilding Aotearoa New Zealand’ conference weekend overseen by Labour that brings forward the best minds in NZ to give their ideas on how to move forward or Labour look like they haven’t learnt anything from etc election!
When Labour dumped the wealth tax that would have seen everyone get $10 000 tax free, voters intellectually saw no reason to vote Labour.
When Labour dumped the Capital Gains Tax and locked into place the privilege of the mega landlords, voters intellectually saw no reason to vote Labour.
When all Labour had to offer was GST off your bananas, voters intellectually saw no reason to vote Labour.
Labour won’t budge in the Polls until voters some actual policy that meets their realities.
Chippy needs to meet and hear some of the best progressive visionaries NZ has.
Māori Legal Expert Annette Sykes – No one can give insight into the righteous anger of Māoridom like Annette can.
Documentary Film Maker Bryan Bruce – knows more about free market capitalism and poverty than the Reserve Bank Governor.
Economics Professor Tim Hazeldean – Has actual economic solutions.
Visionary Revolutionary Max Harris – His vision for a Ministry of Green Works is ahead of its time.
Greenpeace director Russel Norman – His insight and oversight on how we move to a sustainable economy is essential.
Child Poverty Action Group and Auckland Action Against Poverty – They are at the coal face of child poverty and their advice are the only ones that matter.
CTUs Craig Renney – His leadership from the CTU on economic issues has been unparalleled.
Manu Caddie – Genius about everything.
If Chippy can’t organise a reset and present Labour policy that pushes for Left Universalism and Economic Justice, then all eyes turn to Kieran McAnulty to step up as a challenger to his Leadership.
It’s as naked and as obvious as that.
Chippy either generates a reset or he gets crushed in the gravity of Labour”s failures.
What does NZ Labour stand for because we have a Party that is more right wing than the British Tory Party!
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Labour needs a reset as in a new leader. It worked for National and it worked for Labour before that. Perhaps, this is a matter of timing.
The NZ Labour reset will have to get past Fraser House and a whole lot of wonks no one much has ever heard of. But it basically involves retiring Rogernomics & neo Blairism, and encouraging party democracy from remaining ordinary members to rule over the Caucus. They won’t like it up ’em but Roger and Ruth’s legacy is now 40 years old and look what it has delivered! A country with a light population where the bottom 50% have just 5% of the wealth–trickle up!
The list of necessary moves has been aired on The Daily Blog many times, so I won’t repeat here apart from a spoiler (Tax the rich, retire WINZ/MSD for a basic income for all).
Actually Chippy needs to bugger off frankly!
‘Chippy’ needs to fuck right off to the back office.
If he had any self regard or moral compass he woulda beenn gone long ago. His Captain’s call was bullshilt and backfired immediately. Was he just copying Jacinda and her captain’s calls…was he holding to pressure to do it? I don’t care. Go away and go way now. You numb numb nut.
Surely these people were there to help Labour when they were In power but Jacinda did not want to listen to advise and left the party in disarray and Hipkins still cannot believe he lost so will not reach out to anybody.
Hey Trevor, you may wish to note that usually there is a period after an election where the government gets a decent lift in the polls. This is not happening this time.
Nats and Labour are relatively static , Act has tanked apart from the rogue Taxpayers poll.
Given that Act and Nats control the media the lack of this normal lift must actually be quite worrying for them.
Jones is doing grand job to implode the whole deal with his criticism of the Courts
And obvious sucking up to his donors from the fishing and energy industry.
Reporters and Economists are starting to question if Willis and Luxon can understand simple economics or if they ever had a plan should they be elected. I think that until a few weeks out from the election they thought they were losers so didn’t think they needed to have a plan.
Add in Penk with his fucking idiot idea for another public holiday as opposed to Act wanting to cut one out and what do you have.
It’s a major clusterfuck waiting to happen.
Labour and Te Pati Maori and Greens can just sit and wait until it happens.
Regardless of what Martyn thinks of Hipkins Labour will come back, I’m not sure really what Martyn really believes as he claims to be a lefty but many of his blogs contradict that. He spends a lot of time attacking the left while letting the right truck on.
There’s nothing ‘left wing’ about Hipkins.
“idiot idea for another public holiday”
I say more public holidays so everyone can relax a bit more, rejuvenate and get a bit more done. In fact add 52 public holidays and watch labour productivity soar. 😉
Hipkins isn’t interested. He’s hoping that Luxon screws up hard enough that he can come in at the next election like Keir Starmer and be even worse/more neoliberal than before, entirely without principle. A rat to the core
Labour still in denial.
Hipkins has set his face against the people and the Labour-party-with-working class values. In an old Listener from 2003 I think, Bill Ralston had interviewed Tony Blair and noted how he didn’t answer many critical questions directly. He slid away with something not entirely relevant. But he was charging big bucks going round talking to various venues around the world. Why should Chris H aim higher than successful politics like that – successful for the talking head.
Chippy knows its pointless barking at every passing car, especially just after losing the election.
Voters are giving National a chance to prove their metal.
Chippy and his team had last 6 years to prove themselves. Hence, he is not in a rush to release any labour piece. His time will come.
Just goes to show how absolutely f***ing useless Labour were then doesn’t it.
Who are you?
The 15K MSD benefit rate, pales against the 150K annual cost for holding prisoners in prison. Yet this posing tough on crime govt, wants to have more prisoners and more prisons, and more police, and more security guards in public hospitals and offices.
And low and behold, benefit sanctions that remove those on the lowest income, from their income, will be yet another driver of crime. Especially retail crime, which is already too high, not to mention the adverse mental health outcomes, caused by increasing income stress, for those on the lowest incomes. In other words, the govt may be transferring some people from a 15K benefit, into the already clogged up corrections system, where they then cost 150K. And increase the numbers living in cars, and further clog the already over burdened mental health system. Not to mention, the children of those being sanctioned. How is this possibly progress?
A sanction can be imposed on a beneficiary, for as little as not returning a phone call, or missing an appointment if their car breaks down for example.
Can the new traffic light sanction system, also be applied to MP’s, if they don’t return a phone call, or miss an appointment, and then have their income cut by 50%. I’m just kidding, 50% is far too harsh a penalty, and any normal sensible empathetic person in their right mind, would say that the sanction should start at far lower levels, say below a 10% sanction at the lowest level, then increasing there after. What’s wrong with applying this to MP’s, since they should be the ones setting the standard in proper behavior, so why not?
Does the govt agree with the Reserve Bank’s need for the unemployment rate to reach 4.5%, to help it fight inflation. And if this govt was really serious about reducing beneficiary numbers, it would completely stop low skilled workers immigrating into NZ immediately. I mean if they were serious, you wouldn’t have time to blink, before they stopped the inflow of cheap labour, it would have been done yesterday, because it’s such a no brainer.
But don’t hold your breath, for we all know that importing cheap labour is a key piece of the govts economic plans, to maintain downward pressure on wages, which increases the profits of their business backers, who donated so generously to them, during the last election.
It’s strange that many businesses were apparently unable to fill job vacancies, yet even when the unemployment rate fell to just 3% during the last labour govt, there were still many workers under employed, who could not work the longer hours that they wanted to.
Something doesn’t stack up, because even when the unemployment rate was 3%, the economy was still going okay, despite the tight labour market, so what is really wrong with having a tight labour market. I mean, that’s how it’s been through most of recorded history, before air travel allowed the importing of cheap labour that the govt is addicted to. When unemployment was at 3%, the worlds main credit rating agencies, put NZ’s credit rating for doing business, at about the same as the USA and much of Europe, and higher than many of the Brix countries.
So if the govt really wants to reduce beneficiary numbers, they know exactly what they need do, which is to simply reduce the unemployment rate back to 3%, which is what it was a couple of years ago, by turning off the tap of importing cheap labour.
You don’t need to be an Einstein, for even Upston should be able to understand this. Forget about her waste of time traffic light system, and just cut unskilled immigration immediately. And if not, why not?
If Luxon can’t answer the “why not”, then sanction him too. It’s about time there were some straight answers, and not more corporate speak, photo op, running away from protesters, helicopter Prime Ministering.
But the reality is, that to maintain downward pressure on wages, you need to increase competition for jobs, so not only do you import cheap labour, as National is doing every day at record levels, and will keep on doing, and lie about what they are doing, directly to the people of NZ, just as they lied there way through the election – but they will also increase sanctions on beneficiaries in June 2024, to help increase domestic competition for jobs, to maintain their desired downward pressure on wages.
This along with repealing fair pay agreements, and hey presto, business owners get to keep more of their profits, because they won’t have to pay workers as much. And if a worker asks for more, then business owners know they can just get rid of them, for govt will be providing them with an endless supply of cheap labour.
And wealthy business owners who have invested their profits in rental properties, will further benefit from the govt bringing back tax deductibility on rentals, meaning some landlords will be getting more than a $1 million boost, to their back pocket.
And you don’t have to be Einstein to know, that a beneficiary needs the 50% that they will lose in income if they get sanctioned, as meagre as it is, far more than already wealthy mega landlords need their extra $1 million.
It’s all very nice, and punching down on the poor, is obviously what Luxon is gifted at, and gets his jollies from, but it helps if you know what his real motives are.
Not egalitarian motives, but helping the rich get richer. Helping those, who need the least help. Obviously he’s the anti Robin Hood, the anti good Samaritan, the anti jesus christ, basically the smiling anti christ, that we elected. Does Upston know who her boss is? Does Upston know that stopping cheap labour arriving in NZ will reduce unemployment, and therefore beneficiary numbers? If Upston is asked about this, will she agree to stopping the inflow of cheap labour, or will she be the anti christ’s trinity, and spout weasel words?
Let me try a few weasel words: one chinese is worth two indians, and one Jacinda is worth ten seven houses luxury Luxons…Putin, Trump, Netanyahu…bring on the comet!
Unfortunately it’s such a no brainer, to see that this govt wants to help the already wealthy, more than it wants to help the country, but will argue that helping the wealthy will then flow on to helping the country. A kind of trickle down effect, if you will.
When a morally proper govt, would want to help the country, which would then help everybody including the wealthy. A kind of trickle up, where a rising tide lifts all boats, if you will.
Do we want a govt which does best for the country, or which does best for capitalism, and we end up like the United States, where entire city blocks are now tent cities for the working poor, with no prospects, no safety, no health care, and no future? This inexorable atlas network agenda, is a neo liberal quicksand best avoided.
Not much change from election night. Given that the new government was formed less than three months ago, with half of that period covered by a summer break, it is too soon to expect any voters’ remorse amongst the public. As has been pointed out, this poll shows no honeymoon for the government, nor Luxon. A 10% drop for the anonymous Hipkins has not transferred to even a 1% increase for Luxon.
Labour has made no gain, nor has it fallen further. It maybe best for Labour to take a back seat at the moment and let the coalition government take the stage. Labour’s rejection at the election is too recent, best they not remind the public why. Instead, let the voters judge the government on it’s performance and delivery. Any leadership change now, or policy proposals, will hand Luxon and his government what they love – another chance to talk about Labour.
“Labour’s woeful performance in the polls despite National pushing 13000 kids into poverty,”
Get real. For many people in NZ these days it’s a feature not a bug. Bash the poor, bash Maori, you go up in the polls. There’s a real mean streak that runs through the underbelly of New Zealand society, which is a staple of people like Peters, Seymour, and pretty much any National party finance or police minister.
Reset Chippy needs to go and find another profession or country.
And now Robo is doing a runner, good, hope the door hits him it arse on his way out!
Totally agree with this and especially with Tiger Mountain’s comment. There is the right mix of people in both Labour and the Greens, but the current leadership of both parties needs to move out, or be shifted out, to enable both parties to move back to their roots and very reason they were formed in the first place. After COVID, we all knew what should have been done, and the people who can do it are there right now. If they get the backing, and attain the leadership roles they deserve, they have time to mount a concerted and coordinated campaign to flip the NZ electorate back to its natural nature – left of centre and egalitarian, with the wealthy forced to pay their share towards seeing ALL NZ living poverty free and prosperous. Now that’s something worth fighting for.
There is no need and no mood for change in our leadership. When Chippie took over we were already heading for a severe loss. He helped save a number of seats to what hindsight shows was COVID fatigue and the global contagion of the cost of living crisis, meant this election was unwinnable. Most Government’s have lost elections and the UK Conservatives and US Democrats will not buck the trend at the end of this year when they face the music. Chippie is hard-working, diligent, caring, intelligent, energetic and gives all kiwis the opportunity to reach their full potential. He will return to be our next Prime Minister.
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