Wow, how amazing was Maiki Sherman as a Moderator!
She probed each Politician and really dragged out true answers.
This was one of the best debates to date, TVNZ really stepped up as the Public Broadcaster here.
Their youth debate was excellent as well.
Shane waxed lyrical about Winston’s definition of Indigenous and everyone rolled their eyes.
Tama was dreadful and angry.
He always gets accused of being a traitor standing for National, because he is.
Marama was staunch, John Tamihere was brilliant and Willie is the Labour heavyweight.
Karen was amazingly insightful, but she’s so indoctrinated by right wing bullshit that she can’t see ACTs solution is worse than the problem.
Tama is angry.
Like bitter angry.
Tries to justify Luxon’s desire to throw state tenants out onto the street with no place to go.
He’s so angry.
Shane waxes lyrical about building shanty towns. Does a jig, sings a song, makes some jokes.
John Tamihere notes Banks won’t lend to shared Māori land and argues the need to open capital.
Willie notes how much Māori Housing has expanded under Labour.
Karen makes excellent insightful comments on housing.
Lowering rents debate is funny.
Marama launches a surprise attack on Karen supporting Māori Housing so enthusiastically, which was just as funny.
Tama is angry.
The commentary from Māori on the street was the best political commentary than any panel to date!
Karen is forced to defend her Party’s racist race baiting cross burning Māori hate.
Willie defends co-governance as a model that can work.
Tama is angry.
Marama is righteous in standing for co-governance.
Shane waxes lyrical about co-governance. Non one understands what he means.
Karen gets triggered and becomes a Karen in defending ACTs racist referendum.
Marama has to justify the little they have achieved in Climate Change but makes a clear argument for the future.
John Tamihere makes the case for Kai Sovereignty – his argument about using Tax policy to dismantle inequality.
Karen argues why Māori shouldn’t have a say on water which goes down about as well as you would think it would at a Māori debate.
Shane waxes lyrically about climate change and waxes lyrically about being cancelled which at this stage we all wish would happen.
Quick round on ‘did Māori cede sovereignty.
Willie and John say Māori didn’t cede sovereignty.
Karen detonates a hand grenade by telling everyone she doesn’t understand Māori history.
Shane waxes lyrically on why Māori did by refusing to acknowledge the Māori version of the Treaty.
Marama says of course they didn’t.
Tama is angry and says Māori ceded whatever Luxon says it is.
Shane waxes lyrically about cutting Kapa Haka funding.
The Māori on the street comments are the most intelligent comments made during the entire election!
Big argument over crime and what it means for Māori.
Get tough on crime wins votes but causes more damage.
We are so focused on punishment and suffering and that is all the Right are offering this election.
Shane waxes lyrically about designating Gangs domestic terrorist so that a paramilitary state can shoot them on sight.
Willie and John fires up at Shane’s paramilitary fantasies.
Karen looks lost.
Tama is angry.
The sheer level of extra funding going into Māori organisations is part of Labour’s legacy and those organisations know that.
Shane waxes lyrically about pro growth ideology.
Really interesting discussion on Māori exports and Māori Economy.
There is a tension between Māori Capitalism and kaupapa Māori Capitalism.
Willie and JT showed how they could run the country together.
Marama was fierce.
Karen looked lost at the end, Shane waxed lyrically and Tama?
Tama claimed Chumbawumba’s “I get knocked down but I get back up again’ was his favourite song.
I’ll just leave that there.
This was the best policy debate to date.

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Shane Jones is an absolute idiot. Between he, that muppet they had in the young leaders debate, and Winston Peters how does anyone take NZ First seriously? Peters spends most of his time being impressed with himself
NZF is purely a protest vote as opposed to an idealogical one. It has been for a long time.
…because he’s impressive?
Well he would probably agree but I am not of that opinion. He’s too well known to let the charisma fool you anymore.
Winston is the best of an extremely bad bunch 84 and still going strong, sharper than Biden.
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winston_Peters
Winstone is just a really good conman in my opinion, the number of people who support him tells you about how easily some people are fooled by a bit of BS & cheap promises.
Yes.. Jones talked in circles …ACT were well out of their depth…clueless in fact and …
The National Party guy was a plain straight out clown robotically spouting forth the usual same tired old lines the all the National Party candidates have memorized..
There is a pattern forming….
Yet again, as has been the case with all these debates Labour and the Greens have shone and National Act and N.Z First have been dreadful…
There is no other word..
We saw it in Queenstown in the Finance Debate….Willis & Seymour were beyond being out of their depth while Robertson and Shaw shone …running circles around them with their depth of knowledge.
Again in the Power Brokers debate…Green’s Marama and TPM’s Debbie shone with substance and passion while ACT’S Seymour and N.Z First’s Winston floundered about looking more likea Laurel & Hardy show but without being in anyway funny.
Same again in the Rural Debate…
Labour’s Damien O’Connor silenced the rural sector audience with his depth of knowledge and demostration of how serious he takes his job…
McClay from National and the triple chinned robot from Act just spouted their usual vacuous meaningless lines..
Again with the Young Candidates debate…
The Green’s Swarbrick was a standout as was Labour’s and TPM’s candidate..
National’s Stanford , the Act & N.Z First candidates were beyond dreadful and comprehension.
Having watched all the debates the only conclusion i can come to is if N.Z choose a National/ Act/ N Z First Government then clearly N.Z is on some sort of weird braindead death wish..
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Dream on. The logical thinkers in this country (New Zealand) have finally realised that if Labour get a third term this country is down the toilet – mainly over its separatist policies.
Spot on Grant. Hope to blazes that the lemmings don’t go over the Nat/Act cliff, if they do they are deaf dumb and blind. I blame Chippy.
You have it in one .Apart from the gold card what has Peters achieved except chaose .
He would be good in the Act/ NAT mix.
….for tax policy only. Not for dismantling the policies act NAT and NZ first actually do agree on the racist ones. Environmental ones.
Maiki Sherman, Jack Tame and Katie Bradford are all way smarter and more articulate than Mutch-McKay. What the hell is TVNZ up to?
Where how can we see.
Harm, help is comming.
Tama claiming Chumbawumba’s “I get knocked down but I get back up again’ is his fav song, has the irony meter breaking.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pu6h90y5-Mw
Fundamentalist, never dont judge.
Slack untrustworrthey jaw.
It’s not on YouTube… anyone got a link please?
In Maori:
https://youtu.be/cWxDqlKXR6w?si=8cxXnSrpuND19MdX
English:
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To be fair anything with Shane Jones is usually brilliant.
“Ngati Goldsmith” was his parliament best.
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