There are 3 basic motivators in politics.
Fear.
Anger.
Hope.
National, ACT and NZ First are attempting to harness anger.
The post Covid world is bitter and furious at everyone and everything.
Social media hate algorithms have generated a debate of piss and vinegar and an unhinged rage has settled on parts of the electorate that borders on openly psychotic.
For National, ACT and NZ First – Māori’s get too much, Covid was just a flu and saving 6000 lives wasn’t worth the lockdown.
Labour and Greens are attempting to harness fear.
Fear of how far right ACT and National are and how extremist NZ First are.
ACT want guns back on the streets while amputating the State, National want to give rich landlords tax cuts funded by robbing 2 year olds, mutilating Public Transport and stealing from climate change budgets while NZ First want toilet police to check genders in public bathrooms and has a candidate who thinks there are nano robots in the vaccine.
This extremist cavalcade of political circus freaks would unleash a level of right wing policy not seen since Roger Douglas.
This election is between anger and fear.
Anger at what Labour/Greens did or didn’t do vs the Fear of what ACT, National and NZ First will do.
As for Hope, it has been strangled and dumped in a polluted river this election.
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Maybe it will just be about what your local MP is capable of.
For example:
Minister for Children Kelvin Davis said “A majority of young people are Māori so it’s important we have Māori faces.”
“This is by Māori and for Māori.”
Even the Māori King has removed this dogma and it should be “This is by Māori and for everyone.”
Kelvin Davis is very far behind – like a teacher who never self-assesses to improve their internal education.
There are more asians than Maori…..
And do the more asians speak their native language and go back to their country for holidays xxx.
Many hard working pioneers who helped to build this cold threshold country, never got to return to their homelands again. They are constantly denigrated now by the divisive lying woke twisting history and their innocent multi-generational descendants being unfairly branded “ colonialists”, and being unfairly castigated and hated on for occurrences for which they bear no responsibility whatsoever. That’s how it is, and that’s how the ‘ divide and rule’ power brokers want it. The merely stupid have been putty in their hands, but just as pernicious.
There are plenty of reasons why people justify their prejudice and racism. That Maori are greedy, lazy and more dangerous, blah blah blah. It doesn’t work because your theories are pseudoscience and a bad meme. In a setting where people literally prey upon your lands as a part of their diet, then Maori grievances become a justified.
Wow,.. Making up an argument simply to have one at all. Now I’ve seen everything… Is there really no floor to which the “reactionary intelligentsia” won’t descend to just to sound relevant to their own limitations?
This country doesn’t deserve proper leadership.. The ones they have had were relentlessly defamed, and denigrated for the comfort of the colonial descendants until they just gave up and went and did something useful.. That is, the ones that survived the abuses visited upon them…
And the “R I” squat on their hind legs, and gloat… It’s no wonder most of the really competent/smart kiwis I know, I met overseas… And yes, “reactionary intelligentsia” is an oxymoron..
Some used their lockdown time to reflect on what is most important to them in life–did some positive things for their health and livelihoods–while others went quietly mad and sad, some went raving berserker mad.
Everyone was affected, particularly those kids on the wrong side of the digital divide. It will take years to repair education. But, saving thousands (your gran or partner maybe) from a gruesome death by COVID suffocation was still worth it imo.
Who to blame for this all over the road election?–because name, blame & shame is the NZ way…
• 39 years of Rogernomics, 33 years of Ruthanasia i.e. monetarist state, contracting out, PPPs, run down infrastructure
• the fading of collectivism in favour of me, me, me neo liberal individualism
• Natzos for being first and foremost representatives of Finance Capital & the boss class
• Labour for lacking courage to do the obvious when they had the chance in 2020
• NZ agriculture for being selfish polluting bastards
• Every lazy NZer that just accepts the media channels and does not get involved in community affairs and politics beyond–maybe–voting…
So this election is a lottery with a right lean at the moment, with Greens, TPM and Act on the rise, Labour and Natzos stuck or declining. Could Act win Tamaki? could Matt King win Northland? maybe, and there will be many other surprise results too.
Well put Tiger Mountain. Must be the elevation out your way. An unimpeded view.
I have just been talking to a carer for Access. She is against Jacinda – blames her for a lot os the bad things from Covid.
Says that she knows personally people who have had vaccinations and got Covid, strong men amongst them. Knows people put out of jobs for not having vaccine for Covid. Says that many had pre-existing conditions that the Covid vaccine made worse. I think two pregnant women she knew lost their babies soon after having vaccine. Her father had a heart condition and shouldn’t have had to have vaccine. And says that the figures showing the number who died FROM Covid were inflated by the large numbers of those who had pre-existing conditions and died WITH Covid, ie Covid vaccine either was ineffective or finished them off. And a doctor told one man, who I think was related, that his myocarditis was worsened by the vaccine. And Pfizer had said that the vaccine shouldn’t have been mandatory for all. I think that’s the total of all the negative matters she has heard to result in her turning against Jacinda and perhaps Labour.
It’s hard to make way through all that. And probably there is some factual info there – the state machine was ruthless. I think it was firstly an attempt to prevent underfunded, under-staffed hospitals and medics from being overwhelmed. And the GPs were not even properly supported.
People’s welfare has not been a basic consideration with any government for decades; stopped late last century.
Serious question – Was the moon landing real?
She said. He said. I bit like Chinese whispers isn’t it? Anyway, cant quite follow the argument @ Greywarbler. If I recall, the vaccine was never promoted as a 100% shield. Lots of those vaccinated,
even ×3, caught the virus. Herd immunity was the goal in order to protect the health system. It wouldn’t have coped. It worked to some extent. But viruses mutate. Arguably, vaccination lowered the risk and reduced the severity. But I dont have the evidence for that claim at hand. I’m open to be proven wrong. As for pregnant women, or those with prior conditions, I cant recall the vaccine being mandatory. I know personally a handful who didnt get jabbed for those reasons – although it is true that most of the unvaxxed were vilified.
Brilliant argument Bozo.
Labour put guns on the streets, in the hands of criminals. Labour did this. ACT will take them out of those hands. Labour has failed.
What utter rubbish
Really? This is Labour…
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/300947528/string-of-fatal-shootings-sees-nz-reach-half-its-annual-gun-deaths-in-17-days
So the guns only just became available now did they rat? It’s non sensical to say a ban on assault weapons or a register has put guns in the hands of those that should not have them.
Labour put guns on the streets, in the hands of criminals. Labour did this. ACT will take them out of those hands.
Labour put guns on the streets, in the hands of criminals.
Still selling fear Martyn? 26%?
A large portion of the electorate is so ignorant it beggars belief.
Brains befuffled and confused by social media, shock jocks, drink and drugs .Talking any facts or reason to them triggers the glazed eyes response normally seen worn on the faces of religious zealots.
Their knowledge is so poor and any hint of critical thinking non- existent.
And what’s even worse is that they don’t want to know the truth.
It’s like talking to some one who watches ‘Married At First Sight’ or ‘Farmer Wants A wife’ and actually believes it’s real.
I told someone once that they were mostly actors.
They refused to brlieve me and got angry that i eould say such s thing
The same thing applies when i point out,using facts, the real dangers of a Nact government with a leader and finance minister who are clueless, i mean really really clueless, and will go to extreme
lengths and costs to implement dumb policies to enhance the lives the few and ‘the few’ will not include them or their families.
It’s not a new thing.The power of big money, propaganda and shock jocks have caused great harm to many people in the past.
However …this time … the money’s there, the shock jocks are there , but the voices, the charlatans, peddling the propaganda are so inept, so incompetent, so hopelessly out of their depth that they will in the end fail.
It might just be a turning point moment in N.Z’s history for all the right reasons!
You reminded me of a truism (as I later learned) of the saying ” Bulllshit beats brains every time!” Sad.
I rest my case…
“Their knowledge is so poor and any hint of critical thinking non- existent.”
Brilliant summary of Bob the first.
Im angry at Labour, fearful they will be returned to power and hope somebody will overturn woke bullshit.
NZ Firsts Jenny was the star in the working group debate last night. With Silly Willy acting like a radio shock jock.
He was a radio shock jock. Think the Roast Busters debacle. Think he and JT querying an adolescent girl about losing her virginity. Willy back in Parliament is when I quit Labour.
Just watched the documentary ‘The Hollow Men’ (on beamafilm – at no charge if you have a local library card).
Based on the book of the same title by Nicky Hager, (of whom John Key said ‘it’s full of lies and won’t read it’ – seeing it spoken out the the mouths of real people, makes Key look churlish and childish) I had thought that such a desperate scenario of an unprincipled, win-at-all-costs campaign, would surely not not happen today. Wrong! (By the way, Brash did not win, so his party’s deviousness reaped what they sowed).
But it is happening again before our eyes. No doubt the details won’t come out for a year or so hence, but the lies, voter mind-manipulations, and double-talk – even just days into this election campaign – show these ‘hollow men and women’ have learned nothing!
You doubt me? Watch the doco for yourself – unless your mind is closed and locked. No point then.
This election is ACT Vs National.
I fear Labour getting back
I am angry what Labour has not done in 6 years
I hope National /Act get into power.
And I fear National given the diabolical state they left the country in last time, just saying.
Act and Seymour feeling the heat at the moment. Seymour throwing his toys out of his cot with another one of his candidates dropping out. His juvenile replies to reporters indicate he’s far to immature to be in government alone his country destroying policies. I also wonder what was the outcome of court case against Acts president?
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